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Old 31-08-2008, 11:53 PM
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Has America Lost Its Original Values?

Well, has it?

I know that Republicans are the ones who speak the most about 'personal responsibility', but that only works if you don't lie a great deal. And politicians on both sides of the fence tell at least little white lies (though there are some true whoppers from the current administration). That's not the key evidence, just what led me to begin thinking.

Many of the Founding Fathers were intelligent enough to be Atheists, or at least Agnostics. The 'One nation under God' part of the Constitution refers to the basic religious freedom to practice any strain of Christianity, and indeed any other religion (so long as you weren't a 'Satanist'). Yet fundamentalists now throw this about all over the place. Benjamin Franklin himself said:

"My parents had given me betimes religions impressions, and I received from my infancy a pious education in the principles of Calvinism. But scarcely was I arrived at fifteen years of age, when, after having doubted in turn of different tenets, according as I found them combated in the different books that I read, I began to doubt of Revelation itself"

Can Americans therefore claim that theirs is truly a 'Christian' state? Does it matter?

Furthermore, Americans seem to require their leaders to be Christians of some description. Evidently this was not the case in the USA's history. Lincoln barely referenced religion at all, from what I can gather.

If people can come up with other examples, or refute the claims I've made, I'd be very happy. I'd just like some discussion on the topic.
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