Explain this for Me?

[Spades]

Ahmadinejad says Israel will soon disappear (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080602124328.f6eyi8y1&show_article=1)

How come Iran is allowed make such threats and still be standing?

"I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year record of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene," he said.

"Today, the time for the fall of the satanic power of the United States has come and the countdown to the annihilation of the emperor of power and wealth has started."

When will the world wake up? Or must we repeat history and have another tragedy because everyone was so afraid to act. I don't think he can make his intentions anymore obvious.

[Pique]

That's the problem with small and insigificant nations like Iran, these lesser nations stumble upon a small shred of power and sovereignty on the International stage and suddenly start making threats whilst flexing their muscles.

It's all talk with Iran, they keep threatening Israel and yet do not back up their claims through military action. Israel has approximately three thousand nuclear charged warheads given to them by the United States. I'm sure the Israeli Government have heard these claims and brushed them off.

His comments about the US stem from China and India becoming superpowers and the resurgence of Russia. Just because Russia exported Uranium to Iran doesn't equate to Russia being allies with Iran, it's all about business with Russia. Russia has no allies, Russia trusts no one, not even themselves.

The sooner Ahmadinejad is assassinated the better. Vile vermin like him have no purpose on the International Political stage.

[Spades]

Interesting, but how far can a country go in claims like this before it is justified to use force in preventative measures? I don't want to meddle in Iran or any other place if I don't have to but I also like security and knowing nations out there won't do irrepairable harm to my country.

[Pique]

There's movement in the Gulf, my American brother. A family member works for a company that has a contract with the American Armed Forces and supplies them with Aircraft Carriers and logistic's for your military aircrafts and he told me, they had an order made for the development and construction of a vast amount of military styled aircrafts for usage in Iraq and Iran. Don't ask me to go into more information, I am not inclined to say for legal reasons and I can't even tell you much more information because I was only told this on a basic level.

I watched an American teenager ask John McCain a question about whether he (John that is) thought Truman was right and justified in his decision to use the Atomic Bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. John without a moments hesitation turned to this gentleman and said "Yes, he was and gave an excellent reason for supporting the decision".

With John McCain as President, my friend - You and I won't have anything to fear. Hillary Clinton has said she would "totally obliterate" Iran if they even set foot in Israeli soil. Only Barack the Anti-White, Anti-American candidate has not voiced his discontent over Iran. The Obama File (http://www.theobamafile.com/) this website supports that claim all too well.

I'd love to see a modern version of Enola Gay just fly over Tehran dropping the largest Hydrogen bomb onto Iran's Capital. That is of course, if they touch my good friends over in Israel. ;)

[Spades]

Interesting, and thanks for the tid bit. I wish another means besides war would be possible. As I do not want to go through the backlash that happened during the Iraq war again. However, Iran is making it terribly hard to ignore.

[Pique]

McCain is not stupid, warfare will be a last resort with him and America need not even set foot in Iran.

Just supply Israel with arms and they'll do the job, it's as simple as that. Those Israeli's are a tough nut to crack. ;)

[Spades]

McCain is not stupid, warfare will be a last resort with him and America need not even set foot in Iran.

Just supply Israel with arms and they'll do the job, it's as simple as that. Those Israeli's are a tough nut to crack. ;)

Oh, well if you get the Israeli's to do it than its a win-win situation. But thats funny (About Israel being a tough nut to crack).

[Pique]

Iran won't use any nuclear weaponry on Israel for Iran is not stupid enough to egnite a nuclear war in which they'd lose. Russia won't help Iran, Russia just supplied Iran with uranium for money, relaxed trade laws and of course to annoy you Americans.

Israel is more than capable of defending itself, it won the six day war didn't it? It has lasted sixty years despite numerous efforts to denounce the state and weaken its resolve.

I wish you Americans focused on your economy though, that's in a real shambles and none of the three candidates know how to tackle the problem.

[Albion 69]

Ahmadinejad says Israel will soon disappear (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080602124328.f6eyi8y1&show_article=1)

How come Iran is allowed make such threats and still be standing?

"I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year record of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene," he said.

"Today, the time for the fall of the satanic power of the United States has come and the countdown to the annihilation of the emperor of power and wealth has started."

When will the world wake up? Or must we repeat history and have another tragedy because everyone was so afraid to act. I don't think he can make his intentions anymore obvious.

Do you believe he is serious Spades ?

He (Iran) does not have the capability to follow through on the threats , isn't it the usual story of a Leader with pressing internal problems trying to focus attention elsewhere ?
There have been many speeches by tyrants calling for the destruction of Israel or the Great Satan it plays well in some sections of Arab public opinion but i note the US and Israeli Government are not exactly trembling with fear .
Ahmadinejad can bluster all he wants the reality is both Israel and the US can wipe Iran from the face of the map in seconds . Best to ignore him but keep a watchful eye on the Nuclear program , to react in any other way plays in to his hands.

[DanielJeffery]

Ahmadinejad says Israel will soon disappear (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080602124328.f6eyi8y1&show_article=1)

How come Iran is allowed make such threats and still be standing?

"I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year record of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene," he said.

"Today, the time for the fall of the satanic power of the United States has come and the countdown to the annihilation of the emperor of power and wealth has started."

When will the world wake up? Or must we repeat history and have another tragedy because everyone was so afraid to act. I don't think he can make his intentions anymore obvious.

This is Suez Syndrome all over again.....it happened in 1956 and it happened in 2003 with the failed invasion of Iraq. You overstate the importance of a nation, saying that it is like the rise of Hitler, and through that post-war fear of appeasement, we go in with little to no objective.

[Spades]

Do you believe he is serious Spades ?

He (Iran) does not have the capability to follow through on the threats , isn't it the usual story of a Leader with pressing internal problems trying to focus attention elsewhere ?
There have been many speeches by tyrants calling for the destruction of Israel or the Great Satan it plays well in some sections of Arab public opinion but i note the US and Israeli Government are not exactly trembling with fear .
Ahmadinejad can bluster all he wants the reality is both Israel and the US can wipe Iran from the face of the map in seconds . Best to ignore him but keep a watchful eye on the Nuclear program , to react in any other way plays in to his hands.

Yes, Albion he is serious. He wants to wipe the US and Israel off the face of the map. Its whether he is serious enough to think he can do it that is the question. I think he is a religious fanatic who is not predictable.

What is the international community doing about this? If anything?

Dj, I see the Suez syndrome as a mistep by America in particular which caused a whole host of issues for France and Britain as well as hurting us later on in Iraq (Where France played America this time). Anyways, this is not the same because Iran is making direct threats to wipe US and Israel off the map. Not just threats at imperialism. Iraq's invasion was a success, its just the occupation that may/ or may not be a failure.

However, if we go in to mess the country up from ever achieving a nuclear weapon again and not worry about rebuilding it like we did with Iraq then I am sure we will have little problems (Note: I say this with half-seriousness).

[DanielJeffery]

Yes, Albion he is serious. He wants to wipe the US and Israel off the face of the map. Its whether he is serious enough to think he can do it that is the question. I think he is a religious fanatic who is not predictable.

What is the international community doing about this? If anything?

Dj, I see the Suez syndrome as a mistep by America in particular which caused a whole host of issues for France and Britain as well as hurting us later on in Iraq (Where France played America this time). Anyways, this is not the same because Iran is making direct threats to wipe US and Israel off the map. Not just threats at imperialism. Iraq's invasion was a success, its just the occupation that may/ or may not be a failure.

However, if we go in to mess the country up from ever achieving a nuclear weapon again and not worry about rebuilding it like we did with Iraq then I am sure we will have little problems (Note: I say this with half-seriousness).

Today, Robert Mugabe blamed Britain for his economic crisis. So, shall we invade Zimbabwe?

[pauli007001]

Today, Robert Mugabe blamed Britain for his economic crisis. So, shall we invade Zimbabwe?

MMM if he develops nuclear weapons and repeatedly makes threats against Britain and funds the murder of British people whilst constantly encouraging other nations in the region to kill britons wherever they can,as Iran does regarding Israel........Well a preemptive strike may be the correct action.
However if he hurls abuse and allegations that are untrue and blatently show evidence of his failing mental state,he should be ignored and pitied,but not as much pitied as the people who are suffering as a result of his dementia.
To explain i will point out that for many years Mr Mugabe was one of the most reasoned and caring leaders in Africa,the change in his personality could well be due to Altzheimers or DLB or ALS and even Parkinsons(believe it or not)!

[Spades]

Today, Robert Mugabe blamed Britain for his economic crisis. So, shall we invade Zimbabwe?

Apparently, you did not grasp the difference between blaming a country for your problems is different from making death threats against them (there is a distinction did you catch it?). Thought you were smarter than that. Instead, you are trying to twist my words.

[TheLegalEagle]

Ahmadinejad says Israel will soon disappear (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080602124328.f6eyi8y1&show_article=1)

How come Iran is allowed make such threats and still be standing?

"I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year record of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene," he said.

"Today, the time for the fall of the satanic power of the United States has come and the countdown to the annihilation of the emperor of power and wealth has started."

When will the world wake up? Or must we repeat history and have another tragedy because everyone was so afraid to act. I don't think he can make his intentions anymore obvious.

What would you have us do? The British public certainly wont support another war in the name of world security and any PM who does will never be heard from again. Britain cannot afford another war, our forces are overstretched as it is.

And besides, why cant we take the same few as the other Europeans and believe Iran is not a rogue state?

[DanielJeffery]

How about we just ignore Iran making these threats, rather than give them the publicity they deserve? And if Israel wasn't constantly behaving in the way it does with regard to Palestine, I'd maybe have more sympathy. But Israel, through its policy towards Palestine, has managed to alienate itself in the entire Middle East. For that, I have little care what Iran is saying to Israel.

[pauli007001]

How about we just ignore Iran making these threats, rather than give them the publicity they deserve? And if Israel wasn't constantly behaving in the way it does with regard to Palestine, I'd maybe have more sympathy. But Israel, through its policy towards Palestine, has managed to alienate itself in the entire Middle East. For that, I have little care what Iran is saying to Israel.
Yeah we have gathered that DJ!
You only care about yourself,understandable though given your natural superiority over those oiks in the working classes!:D

[Spades]

What would you have us do? The British public certainly wont support another war in the name of world security and any PM who does will never be heard from again. Britain cannot afford another war, our forces are overstretched as it is.

And besides, why cant we take the same few as the other Europeans and believe Iran is not a rogue state?

What would I have you do? Support the Sanctions as in actually support them. Not making underhanded deals like France for example did with Saddam for oil. Guess thats asking a bit much though.

You can take that view but thats not the point of my argument. Its that Iran IS making clear threats to the United States and Israel. If you fail to support these sanctions then accept the blame if Iran does something and lose yourself an allie.

Dj, your suggesting that Israel alienated themselves from the Middle east when in fact that is not true. The middle east has hated Israel from the get go. It is only recently that some states have recognized Israel. There policies are harsh (and cruel) but Palestinians are just as bad and generally the cause. Anyhow if Israel's actions are justification for threats and the intent to destroy Israel than can the United States not do the same to Iran. After all, Iran treats women so bad and is supplying our enemies in Iraq with weapons. Can we not wipe them off the face of the earth like Iran wants to do with Israel?

[TheLegalEagle]

Iran's threats are empty, any war they make against Israel will be oppossed by the US and possibly us, though like i say British public opinion would not allow it.

I support the sanctions but by sanctioning Iran your annoying Mr Putin in Russia and Mr Jintao in China. Not a good thing to do.

[DanielJeffery]

Yeah we have gathered that DJ!
You only care about yourself,understandable though given your natural superiority over those oiks in the working classes!:D
Ha! You're a real idiot Pauli if you think you have understood me in any way, or you have failed to understand that there are liberals who are working class. Clearly you think just because I believe in a better, more co-operative, more outward looking world, that makes me a middle class ultrasecular pinko social engineering Marxist LibLabCon supporter.

[pauli007001]

Ha! You're a real idiot Pauli if you think you have understood me in any way, or you have failed to understand that there are liberals who are working class. Clearly you think just because I believe in a better, more co-operative, more outward looking world, that makes me a middle class ultrasecular pinko social engineering Marxist LibLabCon supporter.

Idiot and proud!I have understood most of your posts........i gather you hate the aristocracy/monarchy.......you are amused at the suffering of our soldiers and despise them anyway.........you hate the idea of the workingclasses getting a minimum wage,keep the buggers down is the attitude you exude.
If you support any of the commie parties in the UK today then you belive in this pity the dumb workers philosophy,give em welfare its all they are good for!Yup i am a working class idiot not a middle class snob in a shirt and tie in a comfortable office never having to suffer the sneers of those who belive themselves better

[DanielJeffery]

Idiot and proud!I have understood most of your posts........i gather you hate the aristocracy/monarchy.......you are amused at the suffering of our soldiers and despise them anyway.........you hate the idea of the workingclasses getting a minimum wage,keep the buggers down is the attitude you exude.
If you support any of the commie parties in the UK today then you belive in this pity the dumb workers philosophy,give em welfare its all they are good for!Yup i am a working class idiot not a middle class snob in a shirt and tie in a comfortable office never having to suffer the sneers of those who belive themselves better
I have never stated I don't support the minimum wage. If I recall, I was the one supporting higher wages for public servants. Where you ever got the idea I hated the minimum wage from, I'll never know.

If you hate the "commie parties" so much, then why do you support a minimum wage, a policy brought in by the Labour Government? Love the hypocrisy there.

It seems to me you oppose the working class gettin a good deal? You oppose socialised healthcare, you say "don't get sick". This is an example of how foolish and hypocritical you really are.

This problem you have with me over my view on the military. Why do you have such a problem that I have little deference to the troops? The troops I really respect are the ones who do their duty without makin a big deal about it, people who get on with what they themselves have enlisted to do instead of coming on a politics forum whining about how woe is you. You don't even live in the United Kingdom, you abandoned your right to complain about British domestic policy the moment you left the country to escape "health rationing" and the "evil LibLabCon commie government".

[pauli007001]

I have never stated I don't support the minimum wage. If I recall, I was the one supporting higher wages for public servants. Where you ever got the idea I hated the minimum wage from, I'll never know.

If you hate the "commie parties" so much, then why do you support a minimum wage, a policy brought in by the Labour Government? Love the hypocrisy there.

It seems to me you oppose the working class gettin a good deal? You oppose socialised healthcare, you say "don't get sick". This is an example of how foolish and hypocritical you really are.

This problem you have with me over my view on the military. Why do you have such a problem that I have little deference to the troops? The troops I really respect are the ones who do their duty without makin a big deal about it, people who get on with what they themselves have enlisted to do instead of coming on a politics forum whining about how woe is you. You don't even live in the United Kingdom, you abandoned your right to complain about British domestic policy the moment you left the country to escape "health rationing" and the "evil LibLabCon commie government".

You posted on 13/5.08 at7:28pm a statement about how the min wage is bad for britain!
I find this post by you contradictory and a little silly and also full of lies and invention!Where did i vioce support for a min wage?
Your opinion that i dont want the working class(you have said they dont exist,who is being hypocritical now)to get a good deal is insane!
Taxes are the reason that the worker in the UK is kept down(60+% at the moment with increases promised).
I believe that the government is involved too much in peoples lives,forcing the people to believe that they are surviving only as a result of the governments intervention,They and you constantly brainwash the worker into beliving they are thick,incapable,lazy(must be replaced by superior forigners),drunken,violent ,underage unwed mothers who are obsessed with drugs and one night stands!Ask any Moslem what the britihs do/are and they will spout this government invented bull****.Rationed healthcare is again a form of govnt controll privatise and see an extraordianry boost to the standard of care recieved,as in the USA.I have never said dont get sick,but i did sugest that if people paid for their HC they would be less likely to make visits to A+E for reasons such as minor cuts,bruises,headaches,earaches and nightmares.Go to A+E and look at the people who hang out there dossers wasters drunkards and people who refuse to speak english!

I when in the forces did my duty,had a great career path,never complained and was a proffessional(not a redneck and a cowboy as you posted in the past!I did what i enlisted to do(do you know what the army do DJ)?I went above and beyond at times,but if you want to hear from troops and their opinions i can say you may be surprised what they think!

I did not abandon the UK,i was simply not allowed to work as a disabled person,my pension was given to my Ex wife in divorce hearings and i had too much self respect to go on spongers benefit(this is positive not complaining).In the US i have the right to work and not pay two thirds of my income to an authoritarian govnt.I own a home in Huddersfield and reside their for three to six months of each year,i have 2 children suffering(i mean living under the communist regime)in the UK and a grandchild......In them lies my right,as in the taxes i pay.
Your problem is that you hate the working class and wish to keep them dependant on benefits so you can feel that you are superior to someone but not be labelled for your hate,White working class spongers,lazy dole dossers,come on thats what you think isnt it,its the middle class snobs at it again!OOPS there i go again not knowing my place,having opinions wher non should be allowed i mean i didnt even go to college so what do i know about life!!!!

[Spades]

I support the sanctions but by sanctioning Iran your annoying Mr Putin in Russia and Mr Jintao in China. Not a good thing to do.
I am not terribly worried because without the US China would go directly into a depression, and Russia I am not terribly worrieed about as long as we refrain from trying to **** them off.

[DanielJeffery]

You posted on 13/5.08 at7:28pm a statement about how the min wage is bad for britain!
I find this post by you contradictory and a little silly and also full of lies and invention!Where did i vioce support for a min wage?
Find me that post. Find me the link.

Your opinion that i dont want the working class(you have said they dont exist,who is being hypocritical now)to get a good deal is insane!
I have never criticised the working class, and you have taken what I said entirely out of context. I said the working class don't exist because the class system of the country no longer exists, that collapsed with the advent of Thatcherism, and her greedy, Americanised competition, low tax economy that you advocate so much.

Taxes are the reason that the worker in the UK is kept down(60+% at the moment with increases promised).
Wrong, 20% for those earning under £40,000, 40% for those earning over + national insurance. I personally think taxes on the rich should be higher, rather than scrapping the 10p Tax Rate.

I believe that the government is involved too much in peoples lives,forcing the people to believe that they are surviving only as a result of the governments intervention,They and you constantly brainwash the worker into beliving they are thick,incapable,lazy(must be replaced by superior forigners),drunken,violent ,underage unwed mothers who are obsessed with drugs and one night stands!Ask any Moslem what the britihs do/are and they will spout this government invented bull****.
And for the most part, aren't we really like that? The highest rate of teenage pregnancy in Europe, highest rate of knife crime, highest number of people on benefits. You don't have to ask the Muslims what the British do, ask anyone. Look at yourself in the mirror. Its not the government telling us that, its the truth.

Rationed healthcare is again a form of govnt controll privatise and see an extraordianry boost to the standard of care recieved,as in the USA.I have never said dont get sick,but i did sugest that if people paid for their HC they would be less likely to make visits to A+E for reasons such as minor cuts,bruises,headaches,earaches and nightmares.Go to A+E and look at the people who hang out there dossers wasters drunkards and people who refuse to speak english!
I'll simply ask you read my response above....but of course that would be the government telling us that we are all drunks, its not truth it is pauli ;)

I when in the forces did my duty,had a great career path,never complained and was a proffessional(not a redneck and a cowboy as you posted in the past!I did what i enlisted to do(do you know what the army do DJ)?I went above and beyond at times,but if you want to hear from troops and their opinions i can say you may be surprised what they think!
And?

I did not abandon the UK,i was simply not allowed to work as a disabled person,my pension was given to my Ex wife in divorce hearings and i had too much self respect to go on spongers benefit(this is positive not complaining).In the US i have the right to work and not pay two thirds of my income to an authoritarian govnt.I own a home in Huddersfield and reside their for three to six months of each year,i have 2 children suffering(i mean living under the communist regime)in the UK and a grandchild......In them lies my right,as in the taxes i pay.
It would be illegal to be told you cannot work in the United Kingdom. See the Disability Discrimination Act 1995. Disability Discrimination Act 1995 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disability_Discrimination_Act_1995)

Your problem is that you hate the working class and wish to keep them dependant on benefits so you can feel that you are superior to someone but not be labelled for your hate,White working class spongers,lazy dole dossers,come on thats what you think isnt it,its the middle class snobs at it again!OOPS there i go again not knowing my place,having opinions wher non should be allowed i mean i didnt even go to college so what do i know about life!!!!
..........I suppose its my fault really, having good grasp of the English language.....sorry, I surrender. You are entirely right.

[Thoreau]

I said the working class don't exist because the class system of the country no longer exists, that collapsed with the advent of Thatcherism, and her greedy, Americanised competition, low tax economy that you advocate so much.





..........I suppose its my fault really, having good grasp of the English language.....sorry, I surrender. You are entirely right.

Britain is still class based society, Daniel. Class no longer has the astronomical importance that it used to enjoy, but it still exists. The elite are still the pinnacle of society.

Paul has been using unwitting sarcasm about not being educated to me, too. I'll just ignore him as he is educated; he just enjoy's going off on a tangent.

[pauli007001]

Find me that post. Find me the link.


I have never criticised the working class, and you have taken what I said entirely out of context. I said the working class don't exist because the class system of the country no longer exists, that collapsed with the advent of Thatcherism, and her greedy, Americanised competition, low tax economy that you advocate so much.


Wrong, 20% for those earning under £40,000, 40% for those earning over + national insurance. I personally think taxes on the rich should be higher, rather than scrapping the 10p Tax Rate.


And for the most part, aren't we really like that? The highest rate of teenage pregnancy in Europe, highest rate of knife crime, highest number of people on benefits. You don't have to ask the Muslims what the British do, ask anyone. Look at yourself in the mirror. Its not the government telling us that, its the truth.


I'll simply ask you read my response above....but of course that would be the government telling us that we are all drunks, its not truth it is pauli ;)


And?


It would be illegal to be told you cannot work in the United Kingdom. See the Disability Discrimination Act 1995. Disability Discrimination Act 1995 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disability_Discrimination_Act_1995)


..........I suppose its my fault really, having good grasp of the English language.....sorry, I surrender. You are entirely right.

Your first request,i gave you date and time of the post,go back and look,what am i your servant?Idont know middle classes ordering the poor worker around again,if i dont do as he says he will go all LIBLABCON on me again!!!!

The working class do exist,the spin doctors of westminister have re named them ,but they still work in working class jobs!You know dirty jobs that you are too good to do!
Taxes:not wrong!you are wrong in your assesment of tax,there are mant more taxes than Income tax(perhaps the middleclasses/members of LIBLABCON dont pay , council tax,VAT,National insurance,road tax,tobacco,alcohol,petrol,stampduty,speeding tichets,parkingtickets,And all the others Causing the average worker(not suited up snob)to pay on average 60 to 65% OF THEIR INCOME TO THE GOVERNMENT !!!!!The government then spend this stolen money on their own back pockets,PC experiments and pet projects.

All the workers in UK are as you sayKnife weilding drunks with children born to teens?All on benefits?
This is prejudicial if ever anything was,it is akin too saying all muslims are terrorists funded by the welfare system in the UK.You hate the white working classes your post just proved it.Benefit Use in the UK is so high as a result of asylum seekers not being allowed to work during their stay,not the indiginous persons being lazy or too stupid to do anything for themselves as LIBLABCON will tell us!
Knife crime again is generally immigrant communities problem,of course we cannot say that out loud we must deny that Blacks and asians are anything but victims of the evil white man and his racism!!:DKeep up the stereotyping DJ you are as bad as the NF or combat 18 with the views you have just spouted in this ,your latest rant aganst the worker!!!

[pauli007001]

Britain is still class based society, Daniel. Class no longer has the astronomical importance that it used to enjoy, but it still exists. The elite are still the pinnacle of society.

Paul has been using unwitting sarcasm about not being educated to me, too. I'll just ignore him as he is educated; he just enjoy's going off on a tangent.

NOT one O level under my belt Thoreau,never sat em too busy working to survive.Glad you agree that workers exist though,a balanced view of the world is importaint!:DDJ dont like balance i think he wants it all for himself,must have been an only child(a middle class trait i believe).Gotta go now and report DJs tax dodging to the Inland revenue,customs and the finance division of his local council,hes not paying any tax other than Income taxes,it is a disgrace!!!!

[DanielJeffery]

NOT one O level under my belt Thoreau,never sat em too busy working to survive.Glad you agree that workers exist though,a balanced view of the world is importaint!:DDJ dont like balance i think he wants it all for himself,must have been an only child(a middle class trait i believe).Gotta go now and report DJs tax dodging to the Inland revenue,customs and the finance division of his local council,hes not paying any tax other than Income taxes,it is a disgrace!!!!
Hmmmm, I think my brother might have something to say about that....whatever, I give up. You win. You are unreasonable, undebatable. Why do you bother coming on these forums? You just make it more unenjoyable for other people?

[pauli007001]

Hmmmm, I think my brother might have something to say about that....whatever, I give up. You win. You are unreasonable, undebatable. Why do you bother coming on these forums? You just make it more unenjoyable for other people?

Unreasonable and undebatable hey?
You mean that i dont bend the knee when you want me to,everything i post is a fact,as is what you post,opinions etc,your 20%tax opinion is correct in regard to income tax,there are more taxes than that are they not?Proove to me that we only pay income tax in the UK and i will bend the Knee and agree with you!
If you dont like other opinions dont come on these forums yourself!
Teachers deserve respect and pay rises and the right to strike according to you but soldiers should shut the heck up and know their place(according to you again)Most squaddies are WORKING class and Joint the army to break free from the chains of poverty put on them by LIBLABCON.The risks they take should be respected.Ones service should be seen as a positive but it isnt,in courts,divorce,child custody it is regarded that you are a squaddie and therfore a violent psychopath and deserve nothing more than the worst they can throw at you!This is the same for the Male in the UK today,but a squaddie id hated more!In divorce it is always the man who suffers,whether he was wrong or not.An adulterous man is a bad husband and an unfit father,a amn who is the victim of his wifes adultery is only such because of his status of bad husband and father!Hence the drunken drugged up cheating slag of a wife (who "sorted out" twelve guys in a subway on the same night whilst her husband was doing his governments bidding in a forign land)is regarded as an innocent victim and should recieve her hubbies home,children,income and pension.I served 16 years and lost a leg and my reward is the knowlege that i have no pension to look forward to,upon retirement or now due to disability.It is impossible for me to find work in the UK ad a retiree whose pension goes to my ex wife i have the option of disability benefits or a 16 or less hour week with income support!Even if i was able bodies(the buzz word for not having a leg missisng)i would be restricted to a 48 hour week,as per european work time regulations!
I work 100 hours a week in the USA,digging holes ,pouring foundations,Restoring historical buildings,often underground in lethally dangerous conditions,earning a decent income and pqaying a decent wage to up to 20 employees(depending on the size of the job)I need these hours and the reasonable tax laws in the USA to survive,In the UK i would be taxed into the poor house!All points to note,you hate me because i served(become a divorce judge and you can do to others what the scumbag did to me)and therefore hate every point i make and try to belittle it however when i proove you wrong you resort to throwing insults and abuse at this poor uneducated backward IDIOT who ha sno proper grasp of STANDARD MIDDLE CLASS ENGLISH!But i speak gods language(TYKE)better than you ever could!!!!!:D

[TheLegalEagle]

Stop this bickering and please get back onto the topic at hand. Personal attacks wont be tolerated and this is the path your posts seem to be going. Keep it clean.

[Citizen Smith]

Idiot and proud!I have understood most of your posts........i gather you hate the aristocracy/monarchy.......you are amused at the suffering of our soldiers and despise them anyway.........you hate the idea of the workingclasses getting a minimum wage,keep the buggers down is the attitude you exude.
If you support any of the commie parties in the UK today then you belive in this pity the dumb workers philosophy,give em welfare its all they are good for!Yup i am a working class idiot not a middle class snob in a shirt and tie in a comfortable office never having to suffer the sneers of those who belive themselves better
I think this should count as a verbal attack on a forum member, and a pretty shameful one at that. :mad::mad:

[pauli007001]

I think this should count as a verbal attack on a forum member, and a pretty shameful one at that. :mad::mad:

Why i agreed with him that i am an idiot,he called me an idiot but that is ok?Oh i get it you dont like my working class attitude,i should be gratefull to my betters?However as Legal eagle has said,get back on subject! so Explain this to me!!!!!!

[MarieAnn]

How about we just ignore Iran making these threats, rather than give them the publicity they deserve? And if Israel wasn't constantly behaving in the way it does with regard to Palestine, I'd maybe have more sympathy. But Israel, through its policy towards Palestine, has managed to alienate itself in the entire Middle East. For that, I have little care what Iran is saying to Israel.
I totally agree with you DJ, instead of attacking anyone for their announcements, why don't we look for the reason, as you have said, if Israel was, for 60 years, not killing Palestinians and others, all of this would not had happened, taking the land, killing Arabs and always appearing to be the innocent side of the conflict, Israel had had the support of England at the very start, England created Israel, killed the Palestinians, kicked them out of their land, Europe wanted to get rid of the Jews, now it's America's turn, the great Eisenhower knew back in 1956 the plot, and moved to stop it, Mr. Ford, wrote about the Jews' problem a long time ago, "The International Jew", but still the problem exists, WHY???? because no one is looking for the reasons.
I have posted "Yes, we must stop terrorism" and added a lot of references for everybody, this might clarify the picture.
Why is everybody nagging about Iran's nuclear weapons, the same way they did with Iraq, what about Israeli's nuclear weapons, one official report in 1970 explained that Israel has sophisticated and advanced weapons, US weapons, that will cover it's need for more than 100 years, just imagine this was in the 70's, Israel demands the US for all she wants, I can't say needs, for we all know Israel really needs nothing.
I have one thing to add, I don't believe in terrorism, but we must not mix between terrorism and patriotism, defending your land when attacked, defending your land when taken away from you, protecting your children, your women and the elderly.