Money well spent ?

[Albion 69]

Police and local councils have been issued with new guidance on preventing people turning to violent extremism.
The 72-page document stresses the need to support "moderate" Muslim voices and encourage positive role models to build up "resilience" to extremist ideology.
Community groups and councils in England and Wales will get cash from a £12.5m fund to help achieve these aims.

BBC NEWS | Politics | New advice on tackling extremism (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7432051.stm)

The cost of being a tolerant multicultural society just keeps on going up and up ....:rolleyes:

[Thoreau]

It's a waste of invaluable resources that could be spent on issues that affect Britons as a whole and not just one minority group.

It's commendable that New Labour is attempting to tackle the problem through education and social engineering. For all the benevolentness that New Labour shows; I feel the policy has little substance attached to it and therefore is implementable in theory, but not achievable in reality.

The media also needs to take responsibility, the media is not held accountable for what it prints in word and broadcasts on television and there needs to be laws implemented that holds media outlets to account for what is printed in newspapers and broadcasted on television. The media for the past seven years has been obsessed with Terrorism and has often portrayed Islam in an extremely negative light. Casting stones and scarmongering have been common methods of reporting news in this country. It has no doubt made the situation worse. What the media fail to realise is that they are allowing extremists an easier way of spreading their message and the media hands these extremists publicity, and that's harrowing.

Zero tolerance and radical reforms of the Judicial and Law and Order are the solutions are necessities in forming the solutions in eradicating the threat of extremism and terrorism.

Judges need to be held accountable for their decisions, there should be a bicameral system between the Judicary and the Legistative branches where by checks and balances are implemented and both brances are scrutinised indefinitely for their decisions.

I'm also in favour of removing the authoritarian powers that Judges have in deciding how long each prisoner's prison term is, instead replacing this with mandatory prison sentences.

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Many interesting points Thoreau , i agree with your view it is a waste of money .
Your condemnation of the media i think is some what unfair if anything they have bent over backwards for fear of causing offence to Islam and Muslims in this country.It is the media who scrabble around to find the 'moderate' Muslim spokesmen after each new bombing or plot is uncovered . It has reached the absurd level of a Labour Muslim MP being cheered in parliament just for saying we (Muslims) do not condone terrorism .
The moderate majority of that faith are the key in my view, if they co-operate fully and warn the authorities of any suspicious activity or people in their community this will support the view that the Islamic faith and Muslims can co-exist succesfully in this country.

At this moment in time the jury is out and remains to be convinced ..... oh and welcome to the Forum .

[Thoreau]

My Condemnation of the media is warrantable, it is warrantable on the basis that the media is exhaustive on Islam. Whether it be in print or projection the media presents Muslims with supererogatory coverage.

There is also a severe lack of aequo animo and balance with regards to the media's portrayal of Islam and those who follow the religion in the United Kingdom.

Scarmongering, commendatory and fixation equates to publicity towards those who wish to use terrorism. The media can turn an ordinary man into a martyr with just one day's coverage. It's unacceptable behaviour from those with influence. In the workplace a person can get instantly dismissed for voicing his or her displeasure or opinion's and I fail to comprehend why this is not the case for people who work in the fields of broadcasting and journalism.

Keeping a unblemished relationship with moderate and co-existing Muslims is one important constituent that I failed to mention. I am firmly supportive of a zero tolerance approach and radical reforms of the Judicial system. Britain is chameleonic and erratic when sentencing those who are found guilty of crimes and the sentences handed to the offenders are miserly and impuissant.

The Police and Terrorist Units need more orthodox authority instead of being anemic and ineffective. I thoroughly support those who serve the local community and Police officers should be armed with weaponry. Armed officers exist in Moscow and it has proven to be a successful deterrent in crime.

[pauli007001]

My Condemnation of the media is warrantable, it is warrantable on the basis that the media is exhaustive on Islam. Whether it be in print or projection the media presents Muslims with supererogatory coverage.

There is also a severe lack of aequo animo and balance with regards to the media's portrayal of Islam and those who follow the religion in the United Kingdom.

Scarmongering, commendatory and fixation equates to publicity towards those who wish to use terrorism. The media can turn an ordinary man into a martyr with just one day's coverage. It's unacceptable behaviour from those with influence. In the workplace a person can get instantly dismissed for voicing his or her displeasure or opinion's and I fail to comprehend why this is not the case for people who work in the fields of broadcasting and journalism.

Keeping a unblemished relationship with moderate and co-existing Muslims is one important constituent that I failed to mention. I am firmly supportive of a zero tolerance approach and radical reforms of the Judicial system. Britain is chameleonic and erratic when sentencing those who are found guilty of crimes and the sentences handed to the offenders are miserly and impuissant.

The Police and Terrorist Units need more orthodox authority instead of being anemic and ineffective. I thoroughly support those who serve the local community and Police officers should be armed with weaponry. Armed officers exist in Moscow and it has proven to be a successful deterrent in crime.

You dont like free speech then?
I must say that i agree with you with regard to arming the police,we should also allow and encourage the ordinary person on the street to arm themselves(unless they have a criminal record or a mental illness)!
When guns are criminalised.......only criminals have guns!
Our police should be stronger,not more authorative or politicised just stronger,physically,morally and proffesionally!
Freedom of speech,and all freedoms can only be protected by ensuring that the govt has less power to become authoritarian,as our govnt is today.When the people have more power and guns than the govnt....Freedom is certain!Truth in journalism is only possible without political interference.......Unions are political!!

[Thoreau]

Free Speech is a commodity that is entitled to everybody, but with Free Speech comes responsibilities. The media has a responsibility to report domestic and current affairs to the people of Britain in an impartial and formal manner (unless it's a tabloid newspaper).

Free Speech also integrates accountability, a person has the right to air their opinions in public, no matter how controversial these opinions are, and the police have a right to arrest the person for inciting hatred and causing civil unrest amongst fellow citizens.

Are an anarchist of sort? I'm more than content with the current authoritarianism that the Government has. Without deference and Governance the country would fall the footsteps of Iraq and become another Somalia.