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Boogle
09-06-2008, 03:43 AM
California Senator Diane Feinstein, speaking on the ABC News program ``This Week,'' said Obama ``needs to reach out to the Clinton supporters, and he needs to reassure them as to what he would do in the agenda for change'' (http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080608/pl_bloomberg/aaicsawet5ni) on issues that Clinton's backers care about.


Democratic Party required number of votes for nomination: 2025 out of 4,049 :D


Who are Superdelegates??

-Members of the Democratic National Committee
-The Current Democratic President and Vice-President (if applicable)
-All Democratic members of the United States House of Representatives and Senate
-All Democratic Governors
-All former Democratic Presidents, vice-Presidents, Leaders of the Senate, Speakers of the House, Minority Leaders and chairs of the DNC.

These 795 "superdelegates" are almost 16 percent of the 2,025 delegates (4,049 total) a candidate needs to secure the party's presidential nomination, while officially uncommitted and thus "unreplaceable", can publicly endorse a candidate, adding to his and her total.

Voters select delegates in primaries and caucuses through the country. Pledged delegates reflect the preferences of the voters, but are not actually legally bound to vote for the candidate they are pledged for. However, since candidates may remove delegates whom they feel may be disloyal, pledged delegates generally vote for the candidate they represent.


Republican Party required number of votes for nomination: 1,191 out of 2,380 :p


The Republican National Committee allocates delegates to states and territories in four categories. Three district level delegates are given to states for each of their congressional districts. Ten additional at-large delegates are given to each state regardless of population. States earn additional bonus delegates for having U.S. Senators and governors from the Republican Party, sending a majority-Republican delegation to the U.S. House, maintaining partial or total Republican control of the state legislature, or casting a majority of their 2004 electoral vote for George W. Bush. Finally, each state automatically receives three party delegates: their two RNC delegates and the chairman of the state Republican party. Territories are only eligible to send at-large and party delegates.

Unlike the Democratic Party, which mandates a proportional representation system for delegate selection within a state, the Republican Party has no such restriction. For states with primaries, some states choose to use the "winner-take-all" method to award delegates within a state, while others do winner-take-all within a congressional district, and still others use the proportional process. Unlike the Democratic Party, where pledged delegates support the candidate whom they are pledged, state party by-laws determine whether each delegate is pledged and for how many ballots.

In caucus states, most state parties use a two pronged process. A straw poll, often called a presidential preference poll, is conducted of the attendees at the caucus. The results are released to the media and published on the state party website. Delegates are then elected to the county conventions. It is at the county conventions that delegates are elected to state conventions, and from the state convention to the national convention. At each level, delegates may be bound or unbound to a candidate. If unbound, delegates are not obligated to follow the results of the presidential preference poll. Thus, all estimates of delegates from caucus states are dependent on state law.

Unlike in the Democratic Party, Republican members of Congress (including Senate members, House members, and non-voting delegates), and state governors are not automatically made delegates to the party's national convention, however their endorsements can hold sway on voters in caucuses and primaries.

Each state's two members of the Republican National Committee, and the party chairs of each state and territory are the only automatic delegates to the party's national convention. These superdelegates while officially uncommitted, may also publicly endorse a candidate.

Clearly, if Barack Obama beat McCain on the numbers of the required delegates for nomination alone, he can beat him more with or without the supporters of Hillary Clinton.

Clinton is using these tactics as leverage to get Obama's nod on her request to run as his vice presidential candidate to get rid of her campaign debts amounting to millions of dollar.

It sucks!!!

robert007
21-07-2008, 08:34 AM
The major factor in the current US elections is regarding Iron and Afghanistan.
The previous President Clinton deals these two nations with good foreign policy. So Clinton Supporters are needed for Obama to beat McCain else it becomes difficult job for Obama.


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pastelGIRL
30-09-2008, 05:38 PM
These candidates give us no choice. They are both wrong for America! Our vote will be against the other one, not a vote for a candidate. Obama wants to tax and spend and McCain wants to borrow money, raise our national debt and put it on our future generations to pay it back. Obama is the most liberal politician in the senate and has no experience on Foreign Policy. McCain,s Foreign Policy is from The Vietnam War. He is too old and believes we can win the war in Iraq. God help us. The media wanted Obama to run and the peoples' choice was negated. There are no easy decisions. As a nation running scared we are going to allow drilling in Alaska. God Forbid!. We have to sacrifice now in spending, tighten our belts, hunker down, get serious. Our legacy to our future generations look mighty grim, if we don't change our entitlement thinking. One of the most important responsibilities our next president will face is picking supreme court judges. The direction of our country depends on it.. saw their TV ads in http://pollclash.com (http://pollclash.com/)

cajunsnake
01-10-2008, 04:19 AM
These candidates give us no choice. They are both wrong for America! Our vote will be against the other one, not a vote for a candidate. Obama wants to tax and spend and McCain wants to borrow money, raise our national debt and put it on our future generations to pay it back. Obama is the most liberal politician in the senate and has no experience on Foreign Policy. McCain,s Foreign Policy is from The Vietnam War. He is too old and believes we can win the war in Iraq. God help us. The media wanted Obama to run and the peoples' choice was negated. There are no easy decisions. As a nation running scared we are going to allow drilling in Alaska. God Forbid!. We have to sacrifice now in spending, tighten our belts, hunker down, get serious. Our legacy to our future generations look mighty grim, if we don't change our entitlement thinking. One of the most important responsibilities our next president will face is picking supreme court judges. The direction of our country depends on it.. saw their TV ads in http://pollclash.com (http://pollclash.com/)

I agree, we have a choice between the lesser of two evils. The downside of a two party system.

As far as taxes...money has to be generated from somewhere...BUT...the taxes should be across the board. Not the way they want to do it now...on those who can least afford it. Oil, Business, and the Ultra Rich have had a free ride during this Administration. First time around the GOP gave Bush a rubber stamp, and it hasn't been all the good the second time around. It's pretty much like if you make a $1000 a month and you're spending $2000 and nothing else comes in. The scary part, is these people are suppose to know what they are doing. As far as what Obama and the Democrats want to spend on...that would remain to be seen. If it puts jobs back in this country...good paying jobs like we had before...fine.

MC Cain on the other hand, IMO, is a clone of Bush...and as such all I could see would be four more years of the same mess we got now. All the money that has been racked up so far is owed to somebody...I'm curious to know who it is.

As far as experience in Foreign Policy...how much did Bush have when he was elected? MC Cain's is from what Bush has told him. I haven't seen a lot that he's done in that area.

IMO, even if we started drilling in Alaska today...how long would it be before we seen it at the pumps? We could have been drilling off of Flordia and California, except for the fact the governor's didn't won't it because of their tourist trade. But my question would be...why oil? We showed in the 70's, after the emborgo, that passive solar energy, wind power could work. But the problem arose that the utility companies were required to buy back the excess. And as far as the oil companies...they are not going to allow anybody to cut into their profits...regardless of what is in the Oval Office.

I agree that this country needs to tighten it's belt, and maybe do without for awhile, until we get this mess straightened out. But I don't see that happening any time soon. We'll complain for awhile, point fingers, and when things start to ease up...it's business as usual...a sad comentary.



SNAKE


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