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Albion 69
13-06-2008, 02:15 PM
Irish Justice Minister Dermot Ahern says substantial vote tallies across the country show the European Union Lisbon reform treaty has been rejected.

Tallies are not official, but Mr Ahern says it is clear the No vote is ahead in a vast majority of constituencies.
This would scupper the treaty, which must be ratified by all members. Only Ireland has held a public vote on it.
Mr Ahern is the first senior figure from the Irish government to admit that it looked like the treaty had failed.
"It looks like this will be a No vote," Mr Ahern said on live television. "At the end of the day, for a myriad of reasons, the people have spoken."
Earlier, Europe Minister Dick Roche had admitted "it is not looking good," said after state broadcaster RTE said that the Yes vote was "in difficulty".
The BBC's Jonny Dymond in Dublin says a rejection of the treaty, meant to streamline decision-making in the now expanded EU, could plunge the bloc into crisis.
In Irish polls, tally counters in each constituency watch votes being sorted and make their own count, giving early indications of how a vote is going.

Ratification
European leaders have said that they have no "plan B" for how to proceed if Ireland's electorate does vote No. "If the Irish people decide to reject the treaty of Lisbon, naturally, there will be no treaty of Lisbon," French Prime Minister Francois Fillon said on Thursday night.

BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Irish minister says EU vote lost (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7452171.stm)

Well done to the Irish ... the EU Project falters once more , there will be some grim faces in Brussels and Downing street to be sure , make mine a pint of Guinness .... cheers :D

Hafke
13-06-2008, 05:20 PM
From an Irish perspective:

It's on a complete knife edge and the result will be by a tiny margin.

No one seems to have read the treaty; it's more about which side you find most obnoxious. The yes campaign seems to be based on the idea that the EU has poured so much money into the Irish Republic that we are obliged to vote yes. That is, they think they can buy our votes.

The no campaign is comprised of the least popular elements of Irish society. There is a significant proportion of the population which could not be paid to vote for the likes of Sinn Féin, the Socialist Workers' Party or Libertas. Therefore, voting along those party lines makes them uncomfortable, to say the least. The most effective way to get a yes vote I've ever seen was the guy who simply said "A no vote is a vote for Sinn Féin".

monkshood
13-06-2008, 05:29 PM
Well done the Irish...make it two pints of Guinness Albion...perhaps Brown will sit up and actuary listen to the people now

Albion 69
15-06-2008, 04:54 PM
Well done the Irish...make it two pints of Guinness Albion...perhaps Brown will sit up and actuary listen to the people now

As long as your buying monkshood :D

Gordon Brown listen ! ...... no chance , the ratification process continues .

monkshood
15-06-2008, 06:33 PM
As long as your buying monkshood :D

Gordon Brown listen ! ...... no chance , the ratification process continues .


I think I can afford to buy a poor old Conservative a celebration pint of Guinness ..after all 11 years in opposition and a chance of winning the next election !!!!! :D

Albion 69
15-06-2008, 06:45 PM
I think I can afford to buy a poor old* Conservative a celebration pint of Guinness ..after all 11 years in opposition and a chance of winning the next election !!!!! :D

Cheers, it has been a long hard slog !!!! :)



* (less of the old , i am still in my thirties ....just )

pauli007001
15-06-2008, 11:44 PM
Ireland voted NO but the Commissars at the EU have stated that no in fact means yes!Others have used that excuse before in different situations(rapists)I take this as further proof that the EU(ssr)s main aim is to shaft us(against our will)and then blame us for it!
Guinness?Damn it man get me a large bushmills,Guinness aint strong enough, forget that im getting me some POTEEN!!!!!!!!!!

Dunkirk
16-06-2008, 06:38 PM
I think that the EU should adopt A NATION ONCE AGAIN as its official anthem:D

pauli007001
17-06-2008, 03:55 AM
I think that the EU should adopt A NATION ONCE AGAIN as its official anthem:D

When Boyhoods fire was in my heart!!!!:D

Dunkirk
17-06-2008, 11:43 AM
When Boyhoods fire was in my heart!!!!:D

Our fetters rent in twain:D

And ( insert member state as applicable ) long a provence been A NATION ONCE AGAIN

pauli007001
18-06-2008, 03:48 AM
Our fetters rent in twain:D

And ( insert member state as applicable ) long a provence been A NATION ONCE AGAIN

Ha ha ha ha your killin me!It is funny but the point you make is quite a frightning one!
Personally for historical accuracy the EU should use the Horst Wessal Lied as its anthem(it worked for their predeccesors in Nazi Germany)!
Unfortunatly i dont know the words,does that make me a criminal according to the EU(ssr) corpus juris?


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