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Old 26-08-2008, 10:21 PM
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Elgizouli's Condition Has Improved!

On 26 August 2008, The Daily Mail reported thus:

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Police have been warned of the dangers of approaching a dangerous schizophrenic who is BACK ON THE STREETS just ten years after being locked up indefinitely for killing a WPC.

Magdi Elgizouli, 40, who has a deluded hatred of the police, has been granted leave from a secure psychiatric unit four hours a week in preparation for his permanent release.

He is also allowed out a further five hours each month to visit his brother.
Mental health chiefs say they believe Elgizouli's psychiatric condition has improved significantly since he killed WPC Nina Mackay, and have granted him supervised release to help reintegrate him back into society.

However, police disagree, and an urgent message has been issued under Scotland Yard's 'officer alert system' warning that ELGIZOULI IS A GRAVE THREAT TO OFFICERS' SAFETY AND SHOULD NOT BE APPROACHED.
In October 1997, Pauline Jones was savagely attacked at her pharmacy in Worthing.

Shortly before Magdi Elgizouli launched the assault upon Pauline, he had attacked a police officer.

And yet, even though he was carrying a 7in bladed knife at the time of the attack, even though he had been sent to a special hospital following an unprovoked attack against a stranger in 1992, the police had bailed him.

Pauline and her husband were working in their chemist's shop when Pauline saw Elgizouli steal a tooth brush.

When she confronted him, he punched her to the floor and kicked her. Pauline said:

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I could tell that when he had me on the floor he really wanted to hurt me. I was told afterwards that he always had this knife with him and if David (her husband) hadn't intervened I don't know what might have happened.
Pauline needed hospital treatment for a split lip and severe bruising to her face.

The Sussex constabulary were well aware that Elgizouli had a long history of violence and was receiving mental health treatment under the Care in the Community scheme, so why was he given bail after being apprehended for attacking one of their own?

Specifically, why was this violent knife-carrying nutcase allowed out to attack someone else?

The attack upon the policeman wasn't an isolated incident either. Just before that incident he had been arrested and bailed for arson!

So, a care-in-the-community patient, who has been arrested and bailed twice in the previous ten days for violent, life-threatening behaviour, is arrested for the attack on Pauline and found to be in possession of another long-bladed knife.

Guess, what happened next, folks?

The Sussex police force bailed Magdi Elgizouli yet again!

You really could not make it up, could you? The boys-in-blue would later say that they had freed Elgizouli because they had no concerns about him.

Do you get this?

The cops were not concerned about a violent knife-carrying nut, who had a desperately nutty RECENT history of anti-social violence, being out here in the community with the rest of us.

It's war, ladies and gentlemen, it really is war.

It's a war that is being carried out by those at the top of the tree against those at the bottom and in the middle. It is a war that is being waged by those we always thought were duty-bound to protect us. Whereas, in fact, they have been busy, over the years, arranging that the safeguards our ancestors put in place to keep us from harm, are removed.

A lovely, young woman would pay the ultimate price in this war.

On 24 October 1997, 25-year-old WPC Nina Mackay was murdered in Stratford, East London.

Magdi Elgizouli, the aforementioned schizophrenic, stabbed Nina to death as she entered his East London flat as as part of an armed team sent to arrest him for jumping bail. Bail that had been granted by Highbury Corner magistrates with so litle thought for the consequences.

Nina had insisted on being the first through the door and had removed her body armour in order to get a better swing at the door with the battering ram she was using.

The same undeclared war that ushered Nina into her grave determines, nowadays, that young women like her must put themselves in harm's way in precisely the same way that men do.

Thus, when a plucky, female police officer's body armour is ill-fitting, uncomfortable and an impediment to her taking her turn with the battering ram, rather than her male colleagues taking over, she will loosen that ill-fitting armour, considerably lessening her chances of survival if attacked. And, in this PC day and age, her colleagues will choose to say nothing for fear of being labelled sexist.

In court, Elgizouli denied murder but admitted manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility.

Which is the standard plea in cases like this.

His barrister, Bruce Houlder QC, said Elgizouli was a deeply religious man. He also said that he believed that he was about to be beaten and raped by the officers sent to arrest him. Which is a typical thing that a loony-tune might come out with in a British court these days, by way of explanation for his murderous behaviours.

Following the publication of a report commissioned by Kensington, Chelsea and Westminster and East London and the City health authorities, along with the London councils of Westminster and Newham, Nina's father, retired Chief Superintendent Sidney Mackay, posed the question:

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How was this man allowed to be where he was on that night, armed with a knife?
He supplied the answer himself, saying:

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We have the answer to that question in this report, community care and the lack of it which was on-going since 1994 and particularly the last six months preceding my daughter's death. I hope this report will not end up like my daughter, just another statistic.
After Elgizouli's trial Mr. McKay said:

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He has got art and guile and will try and manipulate the system to his advantage. We must be sure that he does not get out until a tribunal, a High Court judge or whatever decides he is safe to be on our streets.
Of his daughter's death, he said:

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No one can describe what it has been like. It is as if a part of me has been torn out. All the family share the same horror at losing my lovely daughter.
After hearing how the agencies dealing with her daughter's killer made a catalogue of mistakes, Patricia Mackay, said:

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The consequences, as in this particular case, led to the violent death of a committed, courageous policewoman, my dearly loved daughter Nina, who had everthing to live for. A young woman paid the highest price for all the mistakes made by others. A far too high price to pay.

I can only hope that the inquiry's team's recommendations are viewed as a priority and implemented by the government and all the agencies concerned before another precious life is lost, devastating the lives of family and friends.
Although the report did not find fault with Sussex Police, Pauline Jones, the pharmacist Elgizouli attacked just before he killed Nina, was scathing. She said:

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If Elgizouli had been remanded in custody Nina Mackay would still be alive today.
The Met's Commander for North East London, Michael Craik, said:

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Following this tragedy, we have reviewed a number of our procedures for dealing with such incidents.
So that's alright, then.

At his trial, in April 1998, Sir Lawrence Verney, the Recorder of London, ordered Elgizouli to be kept in Rampton with no time limit.

However, on the 21 February 2005, The Evening Standard reported thus:

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A schizophrenic who was locked up indefinitely for killing a policewoman is on the brink of freedom from a mental hospital after seven years. Magdi Elgizouli, 37, could soon be released after experts decided he was ready to be 'reintegrated' into society…

The tribunal of experts is thought to have concluded he is no longer a danger to the public, as long as he takes the necessary drugs.
In 2008, after being informed of theat Elgizouli was "back on the streets", Sydney Mackay said this:

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This is a man who became psychotic-through the use of cannabis and has expressed hatred for the police. In the run-up to the death of my daughter, he refused to take his medication and jumped bail. I cannot believe he has changed much in the intervening years.
Neither can I, Mr Mackay.

The only people who could imagine that a Magdi Elgizouli is capable of positive change would be your fully paid up members of the PC Crowd.

Correction: your fully paid up members of the leafy-suburbian PC Crowd.

Whom he is unlikely to be bothering.

Your average inner city PC activist, on the other hand, wouldn’t want him out and about in their neck of the woods any more than I would. He wouldn’t be able to admit it, of course, given the nature of the long war he's been waging against the decent, but, believe you me, he’d be making arrangements to go live in Dorset, alongside Billy Bragg, as soon as he heard the loony-tune was back in town.

It is war, ladies and gents.

Even if it sometimes takes those who wage that war three years more than originally planned to get a second-generation immigrant footsoldier back to the killing fields, it is war.

Jack Straw, Eleanor Laing, Harry Greenway, Tony McNulty and Vincent Cable mentioned Nina Mackay in the House of Commons.

None of them mentioned the name and/or ethnicity of her killer.

Tony Banks, the former New Labour MP for West Ham, did not see fit to mention the PC who lost her life in his constituency.

Here is a picture of a second-generation Sudanese psychopath who will soon be just as free as he likes to do to others what he did to Nina Nackay.





Pictured below is the beautiful, British woman Elgizouli killed.




Tony Banks was ennobled by Tony Blair in 2005 and took the title Lord Stratford.

For a few of his PC credentials, go here:

I Am An Englishman

Lord Stratford died whilst on holiday in Florida, in January 2006.

He was Jewish.
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