Petition AGAINST "Muslim Only" Day at Alton Towers

[Nicholas]

BRITAIN’S biggest fun park has sparked a race row — with a MUSLIMS-ONLY day.

Up to 28,000 are expected at Alton Towers on September 17 when there will be no music, booze or gambling.

Instead there will be prayer areas, Muslim stalls and all food served will be HALAL.

Non-Muslims phoning the Staffordshire park have been refused tickets.

One, George Hughes, 19, who rang up for 15 tickets for a pal’s birthday, said: “I couldn’t believe it.
“It’s the only day we can go, yet I can’t because I’m not Muslim. Can you imagine all the fuss if there was a Christians-only day?”

If you think this is Wrong, and is dicrimination against other Religions then sign this Petition. It will be sent directly to Alton Towers on AUGUST 31st 2006.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/muslim_towers

[Lord Nelson]

What an absolute disgrace this is yet another example of racism that is appearing everywhere at the moment in this country......I signed the petition and I would urge others to do the same........

[Baz91]

What's so bad about it? Alton Towers are encouraging muslims to participate in things which aren't around in their own countries...we don't complain when it's women-only or kids-only days do we? And it's only one day...come on! Talk about a storm in a teacup....

[Lord Nelson]

What's so bad about it? Alton Towers are encouraging muslims to participate in things which aren't around in their own countries...we don't complain when it's women-only or kids-only days do we? And it's only one day...come on! Talk about a storm in a teacup....You have a lot to learn my friend if you cannot see this as a form of racism directed at people who are not Muslim.
And why hold this special day at a fun park,I would of thought that the majority of Muslims would be against such a westernized place as an amusement park.......

[Lord Nelson]

And as a strange coincidence according to the Muslim calendar the day falls on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on New York City......A bit like the Beeston street parties on the 7/7 anniversary when using our calendar....

[Baz91]

You have a lot to learn my friend if you cannot see this as a form of racism directed at people who are not Muslim.
And why hold this special day at a fun park,I would of thought that the majority of Muslims would be against such a westernized place as an amusement park.......
It's a bit extreme to call this "racism", don't you think?

[Darth_Tanner]

It's not a Muslim only day, its just that a Muslim organisation has bulk bought some tickets for the park which is putting on some special Islamic stuff for the event, other people are welcome.

The story is made up by the Sun for the right wing loons who would go mad the second they see something like this.

[WESTERN RANGER]

I must admit the point Lord Nelson made about the muslims normally shunning
such places,has suprised me not exactly a normal day out for them now is it?
As for it falling on the 9/11 day,in my eyes they are begging for criticism.Had
like for like happened a police army would have descended to prevent such a
lets say insensative event.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

Hi, was this not merely a commercial decision made by Alton Towers?
Surely if they wish to have a day set aside for Muslims because they feel it will be commercially beneficial.
Is there realy any difference between Alton Towers setting aside a day to capitalise and maximise their profitability by catering to Muslims and the decision made to explopit perverts made by many organisations and cities by organising special days for given perverts?
What are homosexual parades about if it is not to capitalise on perversion and voyeuristic behaviour and the desire to shock and promote the perversion and propagandise for a miniscule minority at the expense of the society.
I suggest tolerance is the best course of action for as long as intolerance is not the aim of those seeking to promote their minority interest.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

[WESTERN RANGER]

Does anybody think if i organised a King Harold Crusade fun day out,that it would be allowed? We could run it in the country and on the Prophets birthday or something similar.How about Saladin slaughter day? sounds nice to
me,a few like minded individuals gather and toast the death of this muslim pig.
Great i'll get right on it,one thing venue preferably somewhere wall to wall with muslims the East end,Bradfords oddsal stadium,Birmingham Villa park sounds killtastic doesn't it muslim marvellous mate.

[Bart Fishermans]

Hang on ! Some of you guys have to calm down. A MUSLIMS-ONLY day might be a bit 'over the top' but if they are not harming anyone then what's all the fuss about.

[Lord Nelson]

It's a bit extreme to call this "racism", don't you think?Would you not say it is a form of religious racism......I mean what would happen if thousands of Sikhs turned up..........

[Golem_Ryder]

Does anybody think if i organised a King Harold Crusade fun day out,that it would be allowed? We could run it in the country and on the Prophets birthday or something similar.How about Saladin slaughter day? sounds nice to
me,a few like minded individuals gather and toast the death of this muslim pig.
Great i'll get right on it,one thing venue preferably somewhere wall to wall with muslims the East end,Bradfords oddsal stadium,Birmingham Villa park sounds killtastic doesn't it muslim marvellous mate.

Neither King Harold I nor King Harold II (Godwinson) crusaded. Harold II actually died 29 years before the first crusade...
The crusaders were just as violent as muslims in the crusades, so what exactly makes saladin worse than all the crusader leaders?. A tip as well is to put spaces after full stops, it looks better.

Ive actually helped you here because now you wont have a king harold crusade fun day when he didnt even crusade. Try a King Richard III day out :) Id like to see you try do it in those areas, i doubt many would survive

[Nicholas]

A LEEDS couple's wedding at Alton Towers has been thrown into chaos – because the theme park is staging a Muslim fun day on their big weekend.
Amanda Morris and Scott Lee are angry that they face being forced to go on separate rides when they celebrate their wedding.
And their 60 guests will have to follow other rules, including being fully covered up, under conditions set by organisers of the first Muslim fun day on Sunday September 17.
The couple from Bramley, Leeds, have paid £5,000 for the wedding at the Alton Towers Resort on September 16 and then to spend the next day on the rides with their guests.
But up to 28,000 Muslims are expected that day, when there will be no music, alcohol or gambling. Prayer areas will be set aside.
Amanda, 30, a recruitment sales advisor, said: "We have been to Alton Towers a lot as it's a great fun day out. Our family and friends have a lot of young children and we thought it would be a great idea to include that in our wedding plans.
"I don't think we should have to wear specific dress and be told what we can and can't do. And their rules on ride segregation means that Scott and I won't be able to go on them together."
The couple only found about the hiring out of the theme park through Amanda's sister Kim who received a letter out of the blue from Alton Towers.
The letter confirms the wedding party booked before the park was hired out to Islamic Leisure and goes on to advise: "While the park will remain accessible to you on this day, due to the numbers expected you may wish to change your booking."
The couple have since contacted Islamic Leisure who confirmed their wedding party would have to adhere to their terms and conditions.
"We have found ourselves in a difficult situation and we don't know what to do for the best," said Amanda.
Yaseen Patel, director of Islamic Leisure, confirmed the wedding party would have to adhere to terms and conditions. On the dress code issue Mr Patel said: "The body will have to be covered. But they do not have to wear the hijab (head scarf)."
Mr Patel said nearly 80 per cent of the park would be available for families to enjoy together."Designated adult rides will be rotated between men and women throughout the day," he said.
He added the event was abut helping to break down barriers: "It will be a peaceful family environment. And we would like to offer the couple two complimentary tickets."
A spokeswoman for Alton Towers told the YEP: "We sincerely apologise for the way in which the wedding party were informed of the event taking place on September 17.
"We are currently discussing all the options available with the party, and are confident we will ensure their wedding weekend is everything they dreamed it would be."
andrew.hutchinson@ypn.co.uk
11 July 2006
http://www.leedstoday.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=39&ArticleID=1619769

[von-Scharnhorst]

He added the event was abut helping to break down barriers:

Aye THATS the way to do it. Force the native population into your wierd desert peasent ways. A really good way of intergrating that is!:eek:

I will believe they are serious about breaking down barriers when I see the Bin Laden family throwing a naked beach party on Bondii beach, with invites to the whole town.

[WESTERN RANGER]

golem ryder/ I was only being a tad silly and didn't find it nessecery to authen
~ticate the crap with fact!!!!!!

[von-Scharnhorst]

It's not a Muslim only day, its just that a Muslim organisation has bulk bought some tickets for the park which is putting on some special Islamic stuff for the event, other people are welcome.

Let's see how welcome you would be wearing a skull cap bikini and carrying a case of Whitbreads finest.

[Nicholas]

My wife has to keep herself covered
I can't smoke
We must not drink alcohol
We must not Gamble (the arcades are all closed anyway)
We must not play music or take an MP3/walkman.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Is this England or Afghanistan?

[von-Scharnhorst]

I presume Alton towers, being part of "English Heritage", recieves Government money in some form?

In THAT case, an ANYTHING only day is illeagal, surely?

[andyf]

This is total bullshit!

Many businesses get to choose who they do and do not "do business" with. A nightclub chooses not to do business with someone who turns up in jeans and a t-shirt, a bank chooses not to do business with someone who has been bankrupt, a health club chooses not do business with someone with a bad back, a bus company organises a day trip for pensioners etc. etc.

Any business has the RIGHT to choose who it does and does not do business with. Alton Towers isn't a public service monoploy FFS, it's just a funfair, and if it chooses to select it's client ON ANY BASIS it has the right to do so. You can't force clients onto a business.

So this is just a BS hyped up excuse for a general attack on Muslims

[von-Scharnhorst]

Any business has the RIGHT to choose who it does and does not do business with. Alton Towers isn't a public service monoploy FFS, it's just a funfair, and if it chooses to select it's client ON ANY BASIS it has the right to do so. You can't force clients onto a business.

So this is just a BS hyped up excuse for a general attack on Muslims

A business also has contractual obligations. In this case a previously arranged contract with the wedding party. Once that contract is sealed a business has NO RIGHT, without severe penalty, to choose who it does, and does not, do business with.

Also, it may not be a public MONOPOLY, but it recieves public funding.

There is no attack on muslims. They are quite free to have their jamboree. Just as free as the wedding guests are to choose to go on the rides with whoever they please. Including Wives, girlfriends, Mothers, Sisters, and to wear what they like, and DRINK what they like whilst doing it.

The wedding party are NOT the one practicing restrictions on others. THEY are not demanding that the muslims strip off to bikinis, start fornicating in the bushes, and getting rat arsed. The muslims should NOT demand the opposite.

[andyf]

A business also has contractual obligations. In this case a previously arranged contract with the wedding party. Once that contract is sealed a business has NO RIGHT, without severe penalty, to choose who it does, and does not, do business with.

If there was a contract with this wedding party, and they don't have the option to cancel, then yes they have an obligation



Also, it may not be a public MONOPOLY, but it recieves public funding.



Does it?? Please state your source for this "fact"

The house & garden have seperate entry to the funfair, and are different organizational units. English heritage does not own the funfair company....

[von-Scharnhorst]

The house & garden have seperate entry to the funfair, and are different organizational units. English heritage does not own the funfair company....
The wedding is not being held in the funfair. But they are stil bieng told they can not have alcohol.

I also telephoned the park yesterday to book 10 tickets for the house, and was refused when I answered "no" to the question "are you a muslim group".

[andyf]

It is a giant cock up on the part of Alton Towers to double book, and I think they have to honour any commitments made to the wedding party, but the real issue is the ethics of having a Muslim only day - on that I can see no problem, it's a business decision that they are entitled to make.

If they can't resolve it, then they should not impose special conditions on the wedding group.

[von-Scharnhorst]

I agree totaly with that.

It is not as if we are talking about a Postage size piece of grass, with a band stand and a duck pond either. There is enough room, even with 20,000, people to keep the two seperate.

[von-Scharnhorst]

This from TELEGRAPH on-line:
Couple's wedding clashes with Muslim fun day
By Nigel Bunyan

(Filed: 12/07/2006)
A couple's plans for a £5,000 wedding at Alton Towers were thrown into confusion yesterday after it emerged that the theme park had double booked them with a fun day for 20,000 Muslims.
Amanda Morris, 30, and her fiance, Scott Lee, 31, have been told that if they go ahead with the ceremony they will not be allowed to go on celebratory rides together.
Furthermore, Miss Morris and her female guests will have to cover up to be in line with guests of Islamic Leisure wearing hijabs. "I've been looking forward to this day for 18 months, and suddenly it's in ruins," she said yesterday.
"Everything was booked – the photographer, the hotel rooms, everything. Then some of our guests started getting letters saying they would have to cover up because it was a Muslim event.
"Alton Towers haven't even had the decency to let us know they had hired it out. It's not the Muslim event – it's not their fault that Alton Towers have double booked.
"The people with Islamic Leisure want their day as much as we do. I don't blame them at all. But Alton Towers shouldn't have done this. They should at least have rung us to discuss it."
Miss Morris, a recruitment sales advisor, and her fiance, a market trader, booked their wedding in the Emperor's Suite last year.
The bride-to-be said: "It's a nightmare. We have been planning this for so long and now this happens nine weeks before the ceremony.
"People are ringing us saying it must be a joke. I don't know what we are going to do now. I would still like the wedding to go ahead, but I just don't know how it will all work out. I'll be gutted if I have to cancel it now."
The couple, who live in Leeds, chose Alton Towers as the venue for their wedding because they have previously enjoyed staying in the complex's hotel.
At the time they made the booking the only date available was Saturday, Sept 16. They were happy to accept it, believing that they and the 60 guests for whom they had booked 20 rooms would be able to enjoy the following day on the rides.
Since then, however, Alton Towers have hired out the complex for its first Muslim fun day.
Believing that they and their own guests had the complex almost to themselves, Islamic Leisure drew up a list of requirements.
These included the provision of prayer areas and bans on music, alcohol and gambling. In the Muslim tradition, women would also need to cover their bodies, as well as going on rides separately to their menfolk.
The couple have since contacted Islamic Leisure, whose staff confirmed that the wedding party would be asked to adhere to their conditions.
Yaseen Patel, the organisation's director, confirmed: "The body will have to be covered, (though) they do not have to wear the hijab."
An Alton Towers spokesman said staff would be discussing "the options available" with the couple.
She claimed it was a condition of the Islamic Leisure booking that wedding and hotel guests would be exempt from the Muslim dress code.

The interesting piece here is;
Then some of our guests started getting letters saying they would have to cover up because it was a Muslim event.
Two questions;

1)Where did they get the addresses?

2) Would it not be normal, and polite, to approach the wqedding couple first?

OR were these letters more in the form of THREATS?

"We know where you are. If you want to keep your kneecaps, then you will do as we say"

I tell you one thing straight away, if people I had invited to a party started getting letters and phone calls imposing rules on MY party, then I would MOST deffinately treat it as a threat.

[Nicholas]

What i don't get is the way people in Britain just tend to accept this sort of behaviour from a culture of persons who want to Islamify us Brits. I cant believe their has not been some sort of uproar. When in Rome do as the romans springs to mind. If I went to Saudi Arabia with a christian bible I'd be arrested and imprisoned. Pakistan is more liberal but I doubt they would be happy if I started selling bacon sandwiches on the streets of Islamabad.

[von-Scharnhorst]

Nor would either of them allow you to have a christian only day, where women did not have to wear terri toweling dressing gowns, and every one was supplied with as much beer as they could drink, and Deep Purple played 6 hours live.

(NOT that I am christian. They are as much an invader on our shores as the rest of the desert peasants. But it serves to show a point).

[paulB]

On the news yesterday it showed a Hindu funeral in which they conducted a pyre.

These have been illegal in Britain since the thirties yet these people went ahead with it anyway because as they said it was their religous "right"

If these things catch on will we see them all over the Uk on council estates and suburban fields where we will all inhale this noxious and vapid fumes?

This is deeply offensive to our morality but these people do not caare because our culture is being trashed in their demands to bring back tribal primitive practices. Enough is enough

[von-Scharnhorst]

It would be interesting to see if the Zoarastrians start claiming their "burial" rites, as rights, as well.

They leave the bodys on a scaffold for the birds to eat.

Give one an inch the next wants a mile.

[Nicholas]

And before you know it they will be re enacting the common practices of the ganges river. They will be throwing dead bodies in the thames , pissing in the thames, shitting in the thames and finally bathing and drinking the water of the thames because somehow the water has become holy. How far does mulitculturalism go before we say enough?

[Lord Nelson]

Nor would either of them allow you to have a christian only day, where women did not have to wear terri toweling dressing gowns, and every one was supplied with as much beer as they could drink, and Deep Purple played 6 hours live.

(NOT that I am christian. They are as much an invader on our shores as the rest of the desert peasants. But it serves to show a point).Deep Purple for 6 hours!!!!!!! Now that is torture,but God forbid if they are allowed to burn bodies on a pyre on the Thames as a burial ritual they could always play "Smoke on the water!" as they float gracefully down the old river.......he he!

[paulB]

The challenge for mainstream democratic parties is to give these people a stake in mainstream society. This means that our single mainstream culture can absorb diversity. Diversity exists that is a fact, that is different from multiculturalism which places each groups selfish wants above the standards of the majority.

If you give Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus a voice in British culture and try to bring them into moderate mainstream culture it is to be hoped that in turn they wil adopt our moderate tolerant values and ethics.

Extremist parties like the BNP who seek to divide society will simply further polarise separate groups from one another and would effectively Balkanise Britain.

[von-Scharnhorst]

If you give Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus a voice in British culture and try to bring them into moderate mainstream culture it is to be hoped that in turn they wil adopt our moderate tolerant values and ethics.
But it is not happening. They are just making more and more demands that Europe changes to accomodate them, and those demands are getting more and more extreme.

What is "adopting moderate tolerant values" in totaly ruining wedding celebrations? What is "adopting moderate tolerant values", about forcing lungs full of old uncle visno into the people of London, Bradford, Wigan, whatever?

As allways, it is NOT the individual instances that are the problem. It is the cumulative effect, of demanding this little law be changed for one group, and another little rule for another.

I allways find people who use your type of argument amusing. When European engineers are getting flogged in saudi for having a beer after work, or Sadam Hussain gasses whole villages, or Women are being stoned to death for "adultary", you lot are the first to claim the rights of Saudi/Iraki`s/Afgahnis, etc, to make and enforce thier own laws.

Well, I have some bad news for you sun-shine, it works both bloody ways.

Allthough you seem to think that European culture and law is not worth deffending.

[paulB]

But it is not happening. They are just making more and more demands that Europe changes to accomodate them, and those demands are getting more and more extreme.

What is "adopting moderate tolerant values" in totaly ruining wedding celebrations? What is "adopting moderate tolerant values", about forcing lungs full of old uncle visno into the people of London, Bradford, Wigan, whatever?

As allways, it is NOT the individual instances that are the problem. It is the cumulative effect, of demanding this little law be changed for one group, and another little rule for another.

I allways find people who use your type of argument amusing. When European engineers are getting flogged in saudi for having a beer after work, or Sadam Hussain gasses whole villages, or Women are being stoned to death for "adultary", you lot are the first to claim the rights of Saudi/Iraki`s/Afgahnis, etc, to make and enforce thier own laws.

Well, I have some bad news for you sun-shine, it works both bloody ways.

Allthough you seem to think that European culture and law is not worth deffending.


Well they are not my views.
Firstly I don't think at all we (the mainstream culture should change at all to accomodate newcomers they should change to accomodate us.)

Medieval laws such as floggings for having a beer or stoning for adultery should be outrightly condemned by western leaders.
Appeasement doesn't work and I do think European law is worth defending.

If people don't like our culture they should leave simple as that! However if minorities are prepared to assimilate then there is no doubt that you have got to respect a certain degree of diversity.
In Britain the same arguments were used in the 19th century about Catholic emancipation yet by and large allowing moderate Catholics the freedom to practice their own religion has not damaged British culture.
We have freedom of religion here, and to deny it to Muslims would be to let the extremists win because they do not believe in civil liberties themselves.

European countries are now waking up to this problem and whether it's the Danes or the Dutch they are starting to say hey if you don't want to accept our culture don't come here!

[von-Scharnhorst]

Firstly I don't think at all we (the mainstream culture should change at all to accomodate newcomers they should change to accomodate us.)

Medieval laws such as floggings for having a beer or stoning for adultery should be outrightly condemned by western leaders.


These two statements do not go together.

1) "We should not change to accomodate new comers" (A statement I agree with totaly).

BUT

2) The Saudis should. (:confused: :confused: )

[paulB]

These two statements do not go together.

1) "We should not change to accomodate new comers" (A statement I agree with totaly).

BUT

2) The Saudis should. (:confused: :confused: )

Well Saudi Arabia is a country I have never been to and one I don't particularly want to visit.
However they have the right to establish their own laws ( which I don't agree with) But if you don't like it simple don't go there! Just as if someone from Saudi doesn't like our laws they shouldn't come here end of!

[von-Scharnhorst]

But if you don't like it simple don't go there! Just as if someone from Saudi doesn't like our laws they shouldn't come here end of!
I am sorry. I appear to have missread you. It seems we are actualy in agreement after all.

Na, Ja, MORE COFFEE! :o

[andyf]

... They are just making more and more demands that Europe changes to accomodate them, and those demands are getting more and more extreme.


I think people are getting matters out of perspective. Just take the world view for a moment.

The UK and USA are currently attempting to force Western values and beliefs on Afghanistan and Iraq. We are doing it at the point of a gun and killing a lot of people in the process. It's a mirror process to that being complained about in the UK, except "we" is prepared to use a hell of a lot more violence to acheive it.

Coca-cola, pornography, divorce, abortion, mobile phones, consumerism etc. are all being installed in Iraq either by policy or proxy, and are utterly alien to the Arab way of life.

So if you object to mixing cultures, you should be shouting a lot louder about what YOUR government is doing to someone elses culture first....

Oh, maybe I forgot that our values are right and theirs are wrong so it's O.K.....

Andyf

[von-Scharnhorst]

MY Government is not in Irak.

And Coca-cola, pornography, mobile phones, consumerism etc, are not being "forced" upon Saudi, China, or India. Yet People of thier own free will are demanding them in the millions.

As to divorce, abortion, Show me where the U.S Marines are forcing pregnant women into clinics at gun point. Show me where people are bieng threatened with death if thaey do not get divorced.

The only people issuing, and carrying out death threats over marraige/relationship/divorce issues are the muslims and Hindus. And that, for them, is a tradition going back centuries. Does that mean we should accept the habit in OUR countries?

[andyf]

MY Government is not in Irak.



Oops! Fair enough

My examples were probably poor, but a Western structure, particularly a government, is being imposed on Afghanistan and Iraq. They don't want that, and it is a cultural invasion on a far greater scale than the filtering in of some Eastern values into the West.

I can't think of a single law in the UK that has enforced an Islamic value of the general population, not one. Yet a whole western style system is being imposed on those countries. That is causing the same resentment that would happen here if the reverse was done.

Whether we agree with their beliefs/system/law is irrelevent, it's their coutry and they should run it the way they want.

I think, therefore, that my point is valid, if not well put.

[WESTERN RANGER]

This seems to be the nub of the matter,the cultural differences are that great
nothing will ever bridge them.There will allways be exceptions to the rule but
generally they Pakistanis/Sikhs[of whom i have only respect]Indians/Africans
don't give a shit for us or our culture or history.We are only a soft easy country to live in which is safe and all needs are free.Thats the bottom line.
Multiculturism exists in the minds of those fools who thought good people abounded everywhere.

[von-Scharnhorst]

Whether we agree with their beliefs/system/law is irrelevent, it's their coutry and they should run it the way they want.

I think, therefore, that my point is valid,...

Your point certainly is valid. I just think that it should go both ways.

As to laws bieng passed. Well no, you are correct, none that effect the general population as such. But laws are bieng bent which DO effect the origional inhabitants of areas.

For example, in London, Golders Green, and Manchester, there are whole sections of towns that are "Jewish only". They have "patrols" on the street corners, and they impose curfews on any none Jews going into the area. Even at other times you will be stoipped, and "escorted".

Now, allthough no laws have been changed. The local police are turning a blind eye to these "no go areas".

The local muslim community are doing similar in areas of Yorkshire. Sheffield, for example (Fair-vale).

Recently, the open air cremation of a Hindu man, is another example of how laws are "bent".

The main problem is that British law is mostly based on "case law" and "precedence". Which means if one group has done it, and "got away with it", then the next group can claim "precedence", and there is not much a court can do about it, without going to the House of Lords, to get the desision over turned.

But, with the present climate in British politics of appeasement, they are very loath to do this. Hence the recent problems in Alton towers.

Yes, in theory, the courts are independant of Government. But recent on-going cases are proving just how much faith we can put in the "independance" of the House of Lords.

Also;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/19/nsharia19.xml

Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK
By Patrick Hennessy and Melissa Kite
(Filed: 19/02/2006)
Four out of 10 British Muslims want sharia law introduced into parts of the country, a survey reveals today.
The ICM opinion poll also indicates that a fifth have sympathy with the "feelings and motives" of the suicide bombers who attacked London.

Take the problems here in Germany;

There are Turkish people here in Berlin that were born here as were their parents. Yet they STILL refuse to speak German, they refuse to call themselves German. "Where you from?"..answer "Turkey",. These people have never been to Turkey in their life, nor have a lot of the parents. They demand translators at the welfare office, AND get them!!!

Then they demand that German institutions like pubs in "their" areas close because the selling of alcohol is offensive to muslims. Two weeks later these said closed down pubs are reopened by the very people that complained as Kebab shops, or local stores, selling... you guessed it beers wines and spirits.

They HATE the country they are in, you can hear them any night on T.V, or on the radio, saying how they hate France, Garmany, Holland, wherever they happen to be. They voice publicly their desire for an uprising against the countrys in which they live. They want to destroy everything about the country.

No they are not French, German whatever. To be "of a country" implies a duty of respect to that country and it's culture. They are exactly the opposite.

THEY say, that immigrants open businesses, so employing more people.

They DON'T. Because they only employ immediate family, and once established they bring more and more of there family here, to fill out the jobs they need doing.

The next day, the business goes bust, because they find that mathematical logic has beaten them, i.e, you only need a LIMITED amount of "kebab shops in one area, and you end up with 200 people that want welfare, and riots aginst the country they live in, because they were "lied" to about the "gold paved Streets" in Europe.

Then they blame US, because we only used granit.

As I said earlier. the freedom to run your country should go both ways. In Europe it is not doing that.

[King Fisher]

Muslims should be kicked out of Britain, never mind being treated to a "Muslims Only Day". They have no respect for this country, they just want to claim every penny they can, get their free education and health care and what do we get in return, terrorism and people who condone it.

[Kend]

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The add at the bottom of this page when it loaded was "SingleMuslims.com" what a great piece of advertising.