New members introduce youself here.......

[Nicholas]

Anyone wishing to introduce themselves to other forumites can do so in this thread. Left wingers,right wingers,socialist & capitilists(the list could go on and on) - all your views would be greatly appreciated. Freedom of speech and association are paramount on this forum. Happy posting!!

[ThisAnarchistKillsNazis]

I'm a university student from Lancashire and politically i'm a former Trotskyist turned anarchist. I hope my username isn't offensive to anyone on the Far Right, it's just a play on the title of an Anti-Flag song.

[von-Scharnhorst]

I see no problem with the name.

There is a WORLD of difference between "far right" and "nazi". Something the great European press seem to be unable to grasp.

However. Welcome, and enjoy yourself here.

[TellMeMore]

I'm a university student from Lancashire and politically i'm a former Trotskyist turned anarchist. I hope my username isn't offensive to anyone on the Far Right, it's just a play on the title of an Anti-Flag song.


I mean why are you a 'former' Trotskyist.

[von-Scharnhorst]

I mean why are you a 'former' Trotskyist.
People are allowed to change their mind. Surely?

[ThisAnarchistKillsNazis]

Actually, when I first became interested in politics, I was a centre-rightist, but started to move to the left after a while. I joined RevLeft/Che-Lives, which is another political forum, as a Trotskyist just over three years ago and as I learned about more branches of communism, I moved even more to the left, becoming an Anarchist.

[TellMeMore]

People are allowed to change their mind. Surely?
I wondered what had moved him from Trotskyist to anarchist.

[Crowly]

I'm a university student in Bath, vote conservative. If I had to put myself into a category I guess I am fairly centrist.

[blacktory]

:) I am a college student in south london one way away from university. LET THE BRIGHT FLAME OF ONE NATION TORYISM BURN BRIGHT!!!!! Vote Tory and see the light!

[TellMeMore]

Actually, when I first became interested in politics, I was a centre-rightist, but started to move to the left after a while. I joined RevLeft/Che-Lives, which is another political forum, as a Trotskyist just over three years ago and as I learned about more branches of communism, I moved even more to the left, becoming an Anarchist.


Why do you consider anarchy is left? I would have said the most extreme political right wing is anarchy. I've always considered the left-wing to be the one that wants controlling government and the right-wing to have little government.
That's what is so interesting about politics, the diverse way we view the same things. As a much wiser man than I once said, 'politics, it's a funny old game '.

[von-Scharnhorst]

Now heres another strange thing. I always wonder when people say;
I've always considered the left-wing to be the one that wants controlling government and the right-wing to have little government.
Then I think of the hundreds of memorial stones out side the Reichstag, to commemerate those politicians that disagreed with Hitler and were sent to the Concentration camps, I think of the Gestapo, and I think of the thousands that were shot on the spot for saying any thing against Hitler from around 1944 onwards.

THEN I wonder WHY, people say what "Tell Me More" said.

[Crowly]

Surely by now everyone has realised that politics is not an axis so much as a circle.

If you travel too far in any direction you'll find yourself meeting your opposite.

Centrist for the win!

[TellMeMore]

Now heres another strange thing. I always wonder when people say;

Then I think of the hundreds of memorial stones out side the Reichstag, to commemerate those politicians that disagreed with Hitler and were sent to the Concentration camps, I think of the Gestapo, and I think of the thousands that were shot on the spot for saying any thing against Hitler from around 1944 onwards.

THEN I wonder WHY, people say what "Tell Me More" said.

Are you (seriously) telling me that the National Socialist Party were right-wing? They had every hallmark of the left-wing. Total control lying with the state, citizens' (or subjects if you'd prefer) thoughts and actions controlled rigidly, people encouraged to turn in their neighbours. sounds pretty left-wing to me.

[Crowly]

Racial superiority, nationally controlled interests, free market economy... sounds pretty right wing to me.

[von-Scharnhorst]

Racial superiority, nationally controlled interests, free market economy... sounds pretty right wing to me.
Exactly. Thank you Crowly

[TellMeMore]

that they married the worst aspects of the right-wing with the worst aspects of the left-wing.

Oh, no, sorry, that's NL, isn't it. ;)

[von-Scharnhorst]

So what were Franco and Moussolinni then? Rabid Communists? Because they did EXACTLY the same as Hitler, in respect to supression of their own people.

[TellMeMore]

it's long, but interesting, and it explains why I called the Nazis left-wing.
(And Mussolini definitely left-wing)

http://jonjayray.cafe150.com/musso.html

[Nicholas]

So what were Franco and Moussolinni then? .

Fascists in every sense of the word

[zoobee]

I am also a student... I am working on my Doctorate here in southeast Florida. I consider myself more liberal than conservative, but really, liberal/conservative in the US is all mostly just left or right of the middle. Mostly. I am not a fan of extremism in any form, even if it agrees with my views. I usually vote Democrat, tho more options would be nice.

[von-Scharnhorst]

Hello Zoobee. I have allready read some of your posts.

I like your style. We WILL probably find ourselves arguing on occassion, but is that not what the place is for? :D

But I do not mind a good argument with some one who has thought out well what they are saying. You appear to be that sort of person.

Welcome.

[Bart Fishermans]

zoobee......welcome to the forum. ;)

[zoobee2]

thank you.

for some reason i never got the activation email for zoobee... I guess my email blocked it. but zoobee2 got it just fine, so I guess I am version 2 now.

;)

[von-Scharnhorst]

I did wonder. But as your I.P has no matches, I think it may have got lost in the wonder known as "cyber space".

[zoobee2]

i originally signed up on my work computer. i am currently not at work. its sunday. even i need a break every once in a while. :)

[von-Scharnhorst]

Ahhh. Your work server may have web site blockers on.

It is a problem I have heard of on other web sites.

It is to stop you having fun whe you are meant to be slaving.

[claire]

I'm a highschool student...frehsman=(
I think I might follow a career in the medical field??? maybe.
Or maybe law or politics?
Oh well, to early to tell.

[von-Scharnhorst]

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Or maybe law or politics?
Whats the difference between a lawyer and a politician?

When a lawyer talks to the FBI, it is investigating a case. When a politician talks to the FBI, it is "helping with enquirys". :D

[Sydluvsu]

I'm a highschool student...frehsman=(
I think I might follow a career in the medical field??? maybe.
Or maybe law or politics?
Oh well, to early to tell.

Um...that's my twin. However I'm not interested in the medical field. I want to open a brothel in Amsterdam. I have an opinion about everything so my sister said that this was the place for me.:)

[Nicholas]

Welcome to the forum!!!

[von-Scharnhorst]

I can play piano! :D

[claire]

I can play the violin....badly!!!!

[von-Scharnhorst]

Hmmm. I think the old joke about the "Piano player in a whore house" was lost in translation some where.

[claire]

I've never heard that joke...

[von-Scharnhorst]

Well, it's not a joke in it's self, and it really requires a very cynical out look. But if any one ever sais "He's got a good job", the reply, as quick as you can and as cynically as possible is "Aye? what as, a piano player in a whore house?"

The same as "Seamstress" is a nod and wink "joke". Because when asked what job they did, to keep themselves "respectable", a prostitute would allways say "seamstress".

[zoobee2]

ok then, im looking for a good tailor. *wink*

[claire]

oh ok, never heard that one before. lol

[Eschew_Obfuscation]

I'm new here too. I don't know what else to say.

[zoobee2]

Hi Eschew!!! Say Hi I am so and so and this is why I am coooolllll:

[Eschew_Obfuscation]

I thought my post was good enough. The last statment was just rhetorical, anyways.

[Bart Fishermans]

Hi ,,,,welcome to the forum........Eschew_Obfuscation. :D

[claire]

hello and welcome to the forum!

[von-Scharnhorst]

I'm new here too. I don't know what else to say.
You are not doing bad so far. ;)

I have allready answered you on some threads. But now an "official" HELLO.

[kieronantony]

Hello new people, when Nick started this thread I was almost a new member, so hello I'm kieron.

[Neal]

Hello i'm Neal from Lancashire, UK and thought i'd join in with the debates taking place, or just nosey around.

I run a forum for British discussion and as such have added this site to the links database on there.

[Lord Nelson]

Welcome to the Forum Neal and enjoy your stay........Nice flag mate.......;)

[Neal]

I like your avatar better, brilliant site mate. Well done!

[von-Scharnhorst]

Na gut. you look like you will fit in. :)

Welcome.

[kieronantony]

Welcome to the forum mate, happy debating, nice avatar. I'm still waiting for an email from the site in you signature :( I hate waiting lol.

[Neal]

Oopps, you had not placed a . in between "email" and co.uk

Sorted now.

Thanks for the welcomes.

[Lathyrus]

Hi. I was given the link by Neal. I think I may enjoy myself here. My main gripe is the double standards in Britain which serve to make the natives second class citizens.

[Lord Nelson]

Welcome to the Forum Lathyrus......There are many here who have the same concerns as yourself my friend........!

[Lathyrus]

Thank you. I look forward to the debates..