West 'will fail' without Pakistan says Musharaff

[Nicholas]

Pakistan's president has warned the West would be "brought to its knees" without his country's co-operation in the so-called war on terror.
"If we were not with you, you won't manage anything," said President Pervez Musharraf in a BBC Radio 4 interview.

He said the Taleban, not al-Qaeda, was now the focus of the struggle against militancy in the region.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/5394278.stm

[Calvin X]

Sounds about right. Of course they have even more at stake then we do.

[janahitwadi]

Musharraf is a big liar. Of course he can control terrorists because they are supported by Pakistan and he is president and Army Chief.

[kieronantony]

I don't think Pakistan has made too much of a difference from a British view, especially seeing as the new breed of terrorists are British themselves.

[janahitwadi]

Look at the latest development, 'Rockets found in a building under construction near Pakistan parliament' Who is behind this? Can any terrorist do it in Islamabad? Of course 'yes' with blessing from the big man.

[Nicholas]

The 2 reason that pakistan is aiding and abbetting the USA and the UK. First of all USA wroye much of Pakistans debt off in return for flying over there air space. Secondly , threats were made to pakistan by american officials that they would 'bomb pakistan back to the stone age' if they did not help them.

[janahitwadi]

The 2 reason that pakistan is aiding and abbetting the USA and the UK. First of all USA wroye much of Pakistans debt off in return for flying over there air space. Secondly , threats were made to pakistan by american officials that they would 'bomb pakistan back to the stone age' if they did not help them.
USA knows Pakistan would never be able to return debt. So she is trying to recover through any available means. However, Pakistan is highly intelligent in deceiving others. Pakistan started breeding camps for terrorists. Funding comes from Hashish grown in western province of Pakistan. This is sold in Europe and USA and many other countries. Funding for these camps is indirectly from USA and other countries. Further Pakistan sales terrorists to USA which have no further use for Pakistan. This is a flourishing Business Mr. Musharraf has found. He has attained expertise in this.

Aiding USA and UK against a terrorism is just a show. Pity is USA and UK have fallen prey to this cunning act.

[Crowly]

I was gonna say... to be honest we'd probably do a lot better against terrorism if Pakistan didn't exist.

[janahitwadi]

I was gonna say... to be honest we'd probably do a lot better against terrorism if Pakistan didn't exist.
Existence of Pakistan cannot be changed. However, it would be much easier to fight against terror without involving Pakistan rather than taking her help. Osama would have been killed in the rocket attack. USA confided with Pakistan about the attack. OBL got the news and left before attack. That time if Pakistan would not have been told about attack OBL would have been died long ago.

[janahitwadi]

Latest reports say Military commanders of NATO forces deployed in Afghanistan to fight Taliban have complained that Pakistan is providing all help to Taliban including shelter in western town of Quetta in Pakistan.

[Calvin X]

...Osama would have been killed in the rocket attack. USA confided with Pakistan about the attack. OBL got the news and left before attack. That time if Pakistan would not have been told about attack OBL would have been died long ago.

Very likely. Of course that was pre 9-11, back when America was still mostly asleep regarding terrorism.

[von-Scharnhorst]

I allways ask, how much "control" do thes presidents and governments have, and how much is wish full thinking, or damn right lies?

Allthough the Pakistan Government may not supply these safe areas, what are they doing, or what CAN they do, to erradicate them?

[janahitwadi]

I.... Allthough the Pakistan Government may not supply these safe areas, what are they doing, or what CAN they do, to erradicate them?
You can expect so many unexpected actions from Mr. Musharraf. He can convince you doing a lot for you while doing exactly opposite.

[von-Scharnhorst]

Hmm. Quite. Doing just enough to stay out of trouble, but not enough to get him into trouble either.

Knife edge politics. OR, as it's known in U.K,"looking after number one".

[janahitwadi]

Children from earthquake affected area in Pakistan and POK have been handed over to 'Madarsa' (religious training schools run by Mosques) rather than general schools. They would be trained 'Jihadis' in another 4-10 years.

Your help for earthquake affected persons is used for training 'Jihadis'

[von-Scharnhorst]

I have not donated. Any country that is big and rioch enough to afford nuclear weapons, is big and rich enough to look after it's own people.

[janahitwadi]

Many countries and individuals poured donations in term of cash and kind. You may not be the one but there may be some one next to you who donated.:)

[janahitwadi]

There is lot of weight in what Mr. Musharraf saying 'west would fail without support from Pakistan' Pakistan training, supporting, sheltering Taliban and terrorists. How can west succeed unless Pakistan stops supporting Taliban/terrorists?

[von-Scharnhorst]

Exactly::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

[janahitwadi]

Serial blasts in Mumbai local trains were planed by activists of Lashkar-e-Taiba and Al qaeda. RDX was smuggled from Pakistan by 3 routes. Bombs manufactured in a slums near Mumbai. Stored in another place. Carried to railway terminus in 7 groups each consisting of 2 persons (1 Pakistani national and 1 Indian) and timed for blast around 6:30 in the evening, the busiest period all coaches filled like boxes dumped in these.

There were 11 Pakistanis and 7 Indians involved in the case, all Muslims. Indian Muslims were taken to Pakistan for training. However, the investigations show that the details were revealed by nationalist Muslims.

Conclusion is the man who organizes claims he is indispensable.

[janahitwadi]

First time Mr. Musharraf said there is danger to Pakistan from inside. Not from outside. he referred to fundamentalists and extremists in Pakistan. All politicians in Pakistan always wanted support from these elements to come to power and stay in power. These elements now understood their nuisance value and now ready to grab price for support. Being a partner in war against terror Mr. Musharraf is finding difficult to support them now. Nor he can leave partnership with USA. He is in worth dilemma.

Would any one suggest some solution to Mr. Musharraf?

[kieronantony]

Resign!!! and stop moaning about Kashmir, It belongs to India.

[janahitwadi]

Resign!!! and stop moaning about Kashmir, It belongs to India.
Pakistani politicians and military commanders want Kashmir problem to be alive. It is their necessity for diverting attention of Pakistani public. Else there would be unrest in whole nation against the rulers.

[kieronantony]

So they're using Kashmir as a diversionary tactic, it's ironic that they've started a war to keep in power, yet in Britain, the very war that Blair took part in has virtually cost him his power.

[von-Scharnhorst]

With Blurr it was a poker hand that went bad. IF every thing had worked out, as Bush wanted it to, Irak and Afghanistan would be sorted out by now, the troops would have "been home for christmas", and Blurr would have a T*******r style "Falklands victory" in his pocket to woo the electorate with.

The fact that he tried to do the job on the cheap, with as few soldiers as possible and as little equipment as possible, has instead given him a Hitler style "Stalingrad defeat", which is now the political version of a block of concrete around the feet and a deep river.

[kieronantony]

Do you think he could redeem himself before his departure in May?

[von-Scharnhorst]

Sure. In a very Japanese way. :D

[janahitwadi]

So they're using Kashmir as a diversionary tactic, it's ironic that they've started a war to keep in power, yet in Britain, the very war that Blair took part in has virtually cost him his power.
At the end of 1971 Pakistan-India war there had been nearly 100000 war prisoners in Indian jails. India could have forced to vacate POK easily. However Prime Ministers of both the countries did not do so thinking about the unrest among people of Pakistan. Mr. Bhutto urged Mrs. Indira Gandhi to leave the issue as it is. Both wanted the issue remains alive so can be used in their political agenda to grab votes.