Originally Posted by Expounder What pathetic excuse Clegg offers for a "breakdown" in talks with Labour, his sell out to Cameron was already a done deal before he ever spoke to them. He couldn't wait to put his signature to it. The smell of the crumbs of a morsel of power and the ministerial perks that go with it was enough Lib Dem leadership betray their principles and the principles of their members. The Lib Dems are finished as serious political party, as their leaders are prepared to throw their lot in with the Tories for minor seats at the table. They have been absorbed into the Tory party machine.I believe Lib Dem members will split into factions at the next General Election as the party they belonged to no longer exists. The debates: Nick Clegg "The Tories are linked ...
Originally Posted by Graveland So then no party obtained a conclusive mandate for their policies and such a coalition as we have now is the logical way forward, your just peeved off your party couldn't muster enough dignity to compromise. Perhaps if they hadn't been courting (and blatantly ignoring) the fears of the senior civil servants and LISTENING to what people outside their little power bubble were saying they might still be in power. How ironic that they offer voting reform to the liberals and yet in the very scenario of Google Page Ranking voting they are unable to deal with their closest political allay. What does that tell you?? Explain to me how 18 years of Tory government was worse than the 13 years of Labour's. Because as far as I can tell Labour are incapable of admitting mistakes and subsequent failures, the Tories ...
Originally Posted by Expounder With Cameron's constitutional change for getting rid of an unpopular government from 51% to 55% majority he doesn't need the Lib Dems any more they were just window dressing to get him into No10. The total opposition including the Lib Dems can only muster 53%. We have a five year Tory dictatorship to do as they please. The naive Lib Dems hungry for the trappings of power plus the grace and favour plush flats and ministerial cars can play at being cabinet ministers to satisfy their own personal egos, but truth be known they are no longer needed by Cameron to survive in No10. He played them for suckers and they fell for it. All of the promises he made can be reneged on and in spite of all protestations can remain in office
Originally Posted by Expounder We are in for a five year Tory dictatorship if the Tories end up with a minority government and the Lib Dems pull out this farce of a coalition. You're so full of pontificating about the democtatic process don't you think this is the sort of stoke that any cheap political spiv would pull The Tories have cynically overturned over two hundred years of parliamentary history practice to hold on to office if defeated by a simple majority vote. We know now, and so do the gullible Lib Dems,[who are really no longer needed except for window dressing] why they were so readily accepted into the Tory lair. It was to enable Cameron to cobble his ad hoc cabinet together to give this outrageous decision a veneer of legitimacy. He doesn't need the Lib Dems any more, job done and dusted. ...
Originally Posted by Expounder The fact that Cameron is having to hold his nose and talk to the Lib Dems is because he tried to become a Tony Blair clone. Surrounded by a small inner shadow cabinet clique and "strategist" Big Joke, Steve Hilton and the Big Society, proves that his flawed judgement in every decision he made would make him a disaster as Prime Minister. The election was his for the taking after 13 years of a Labour government. Ashcroft's millions into the marginals, a rabid anti Labour press [with one exception] a Labour P.M. more derided by the right than Hitler, plus Duffy Gate, three Labour MPs charged over the expences scandal and a one time 20% lead in the polls evaporating mainly because of Osbourne's gaff with the word austerity. His problems are far from ...