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Originally Posted by Expounder

The link below is worth a read as it deals with Cameron's latest conversion to extolling the virtues of the Co-op movement on the road to Damascus [ i.e. power]. Co-operatives are an integral part of the labour movement, worker co-operation could be described as a form of socialism but I'm sure this is far from what is on David Cameron's mind when he floats the idea.

As a friend of mine commented " David Cameron and the Tories wouldn't recognise a co-operative if it crept up on them and bit them on their arses." I doubt if Cameron will be following up on this idea for any of the companies in the private sector as it lacks one essential for them - the ability of companies to make profits out of workers labour power.

Notably, Co-operatives are self reliant

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Originally Posted by Expounder

People's co-operatives have existed since the birth of the labour movement and are a self reliant means of group help and distribution among members,to help the group fend off the worst ravages of capitalism. I think you are rather out of date and context when you use the term "fascists". You must be thinking of Mussolini's Italy in the 30s. The reason why I mentioned "Soviets", is they were councils in Russia set up just after the communist revolution not dissimilar in principle to co-operatives. What surprised me was Cameron's sudden conversion to a basically socialist ideal.I smell a rat an Aunt Sally to set up and subtly primed to knock down.

The Tories idea of NHS and public sector co-operatives is laughable designed to split and isolate the NHS

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This is about your friendly helpfull stealing Banks.
RBS the money house you rescued from the gutter, where it should have remained, is selling it's Energy Trading arm for 4 billion - except it has a problem: the President of the USA, no less. is seeking to ban Proprietary Trading ( this is trading in human essentials ie Oil, Gas, Water, Energy and Commodities) as this sort of trading increases basic prices by over 100%. Which is exactly where the Bankers get their Mega Bonus pay offs - right off the skins of you and your childrens backs.
As normal, our Downing St. Dick Turpins ARE PEEING THEMSELVES in case they are forced to do likewise. Where are all the handouts going to come from if they upset their masters.

NOW FOR THE FIGURES!
4 Billion the asking price ...

Originally Posted by Expounder

Cameron has resurrected another Thatcherite Tory wheeze, making all public run services into workers co-operatives [ which is not dissimilar to the Communist version of soviets.]

Now there's a conversion, crafty Dave and his team have seen a novel way eroding the NHS. He said you [the workers] take over and here's your budget be free to use in the way you want.

In the NHS apart from the fact that standardisation of procedure and internal link up will go out of the window which would cause mayhem in the transfer of life threatening cases and purchase of vastly expensive equipment to meet new medial challenges [which could not be made without a centrally controlled budget] here's the rub.

Dave and his Tory cronies will decide what the budgets will

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Here we are, backs against the financial wall the EU and IMF gleefully waiting for us to arrive with the begging bowl, so that they will have the exotic pleasure of lecturing us on prodigality: always something for others to observe but not what they practice themselves. They have gleefully refused us before and will do so again with the same smarmy admonitions.

LO AND BEHOLD: WE ARE SAVED AGAIN - OR ARE WE?

It appears that like the North Sea the waters around the Falklands are awash with oil, 60 to 100 billion barrels is the estimate, for the stupid economists and ridiculous politicians I will put this in terms they may understand: A tax income of over 1ooo
Euromillion Rollovers PA.
That's great you say, Hold It! remember who were dealing with.
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