BNP Would Love It Here, Emma Thompson Tells Exeter Students

[DavidRose]

...the actor Emma Thompson has urged a university to work to stamp out racism after her adopted son endured "unpleasant" experiences while studying there..... Speaking at a diversity event at the university, Thompson claimed the leader of the bnp, Nick Griffin, would "love" the area because of its relative lack of racial diversity.

On Thursday, during the debate entitled all Africans Now: Artistry and Activism, a member of the audience raised the issue of the BNP and comments by its leader that London was no longer a British city because of its racial diversity. The questioner asked:

"What can we do to change the whiteness of Devon and Cornwall?"

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No comment necessary.

[DC]

Why do we need to change the whiteness of Devon and Cornwall?

[Barry]

Maybe she should just stick to acting, she is quite good at that.

[DTE]

No comment necessary.

Winner of Biggest MisUnderstanding of A Politics Forum Award 2009.

And it wasn't Emma Thompson who made the remark that you so helpfully increased the size of.

You've taken a story that was about one thing, and misrepresented it to make it appear to be about something else. How un-BNP like.

OMFG! Someone asked a stupid question, wow, that never happens anywhere.

[Neo2012]

Winner of Biggest MisUnderstanding of A Politics Forum Award 2009.

And it wasn't Emma Thompson who made the remark that you so helpfully increased the size of.

You've taken a story that was about one thing, and misrepresented it to make it appear to be about something else. How un-BNP like.

OMFG! Someone asked a stupid question, wow, that never happens anywhere.

probably from the fascists website, they are always lying/spinning, and people believe it because they want to have their prejudices and ignorance confirmed.

[DavidRose]

Winner of Biggest MisUnderstanding of A Politics Forum Award 2009.

And it wasn't Emma Thompson who made the remark that you so helpfully increased the size of.

Since no one suggested it was, your point is irrelevant.

You've taken a story that was about one thing, and misrepresented it to make it appear to be about something else. How un-BNP like.

I quoted from the article, in the context used by the journalist. That I choose to highlight evidence of someone advocating the silent genocide and discplacement of working class white Britains is certainly a problem for you.

OMFG! Someone asked a stupid question, wow, that never happens anywhere.

Sure, if the question had been what can we do to change [get rid of] the blackness in London, you'd be screaming racism at the top of your voice.

probably from the fascists website, they are always lying/spinning, and people believe it because they want to have their prejudices and ignorance confirmed.

The article was in the Guardian?

[Patriot1]

probably from the fascists website, they are always lying/spinning, and people believe it because they want to have their prejudices and ignorance confirmed.

and people ignore them because they refuse to even consider that ethnic cleansing or racism can be applied to whites.

[DTE]

Since no one suggested it was, your point is irrelevant.

Er, I think Barry did. And it is more than implied in your post that what she was doing was somehow wrong, otherwise why bother reporting it?

quoted from the article, in the context used by the journalist. That I choose to highlight evidence of someone advocating the silent genocide and discplacement of working class white Britains is certainly a problem for you.

Silent genocide? Silent Genocide? Just for clarification, here is how dictionary.com defines genocide

noun: the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

Aah yes, extermination. I must have missed all the death squads roaming the streets picking off the white populace. Then again, it is silent I suppose.

Way to earn that facepalm

Sure, if the question had been what can we do to change [get rid of] the blackness in London, you'd be screaming racism at the top of your voice.

Basic misunderstanding of the question again. I'm not defending the question, which is stupid, but they are talking about adding diversity, not "getting rid of" the whites. A subtle distinction maybe, but I forgot the BNP don't do subtle.

[Neo2012]

and people ignore them because they refuse to even consider that ethnic cleansing or racism can be applied to whites.

FOA Sussex, DC, etc, who defend the BNP as not fascist. Look at the language, that comes out from the supporters of the BNP. How they are brainwashed, by a fanatical fascist core, into making statements which are wholly ridiculous, and frightening at the same time. They truly believe that there is a genocide, that there is an ethnic cleansing taking place, etc. And deliberately obtuse, to any evidence which is contradictory to their arguments.

[Neo2012]

Read the article, and it was nothing like represented. What she said, was quite innocent and unprovocative.

why do people want to believe lies, and conspiracy theories? Always a puzzle to me.

[Patriot1]

FOA Sussex, DC, etc, who defend the BNP as not fascist. Look at the language, that comes out from the supporters of the BNP. How they are brainwashed, by a fanatical fascist core, into making statements which are wholly ridiculous, and frightening at the same time. They truly believe that there is a genocide, that there is an ethnic cleansing taking place, etc. And deliberately obtuse, to any evidence which is contradictory to their arguments.

Firstly, I was well aware of this before I'd even looked at politics or the BNP. Secondly:

Have you been to leicester?
Have you been to Burnley?
Have you been to Peckham?
YouTube - Benefits Of Immigration? - South London - BNP

Go to any of these places and tell me that white people are not being ethnically cleansed. Not by murder, not by intimidation, simply by immigration and multiplying.

Seems to me that there is no such thing as multi-culturism in the liberal sense. I dont see any "intergration" in that video.

Just colonisation.

[DavidRose]

Er, I think Barry did. And it is more than implied in your post that what she was doing was somehow wrong, otherwise why bother reporting it?

I think the reason I reported it is clear from my OP.

Aah yes, extermination. I must have missed all the death squads roaming the streets picking off the white populace. Then again, it is silent I suppose.

It says nothing about death squads in the definition you quoted. The Native Americans were exterminated by disease, no death squads neccessary. But I'm sure your going to tell us that that was just an unfortunate accident.

Way to earn that facepalm

I see, you must be all of.....16?

Basic misunderstanding of the question again. I'm not defending the question, which is stupid, but they are talking about adding diversity, not "getting rid of" the whites. A subtle distinction maybe, but I forgot the BNP don't do subtle.

Wow. Your actually suggesting that morality is based upon race? That a mixed race society is morally better than a monoracial one? If that isn't fascism what is?

[DC]

I think we can all agree that multiculturalism has crashed and burned. And I do agree that there is certainly a danger of certain areas of England becoming 'ethnically cleansed' by immigration and high birth rates of immigrant peoples. I don't think this would be the case if such areas were broken up through integration.

[DTE]

I think the reason I reported it is clear from my OP.

Your imput consisted of 'no comment' so I respectfully disagree.

It says nothing about death squads in the definition you quoted. The Native Americans were exterminated by disease, no death squads neccessary. But I'm sure your going to tell us that that was just an unfortunate accident.

Its says extermination, how does an influx of immigrants exterminate the white populace? The only way I can see of fitting this word into your opinion of whats happening is to suggest that mixed race babies are an 'extermination', is that what you mean?

I see, you must be all of.....16?

You mistake brevity for immaturity. I guess emoticons are only for our younger members. My mistake.

Wow. Your actually suggesting that morality is based upon race? That a mixed race society is morally better than a monoracial one? If that isn't fascism what is?

Erm no. Nowhere in what I said did I mention morality. Nowhere. Now it is all written further down the page but just just for clarity:

...but they are talking about adding diversity, not "getting rid of" the whites. A subtle distinction maybe, but I forgot the BNP don't do subtle.

They are the ones implying that diversity is somehow better, now maybe I agree with this, in certain instances yes, in my life knowing a diverse range of people from different backgrounds has, I would say, enriched my experiences, however, never in the above quote or here, did I mention anything about morality. But you did. Unprovoked. So I would guess that you think a single cultural society is somehow more moral than a multi-cultural one, is that a correct assumption? And if so, why?

[DTE]

I think we can all agree that multiculturalism has crashed and burned. And I do agree that there is certainly a danger of certain areas of England becoming 'ethnically cleansed' by immigration and high birth rates of immigrant peoples. I don't think this would be the case if such areas were broken up through integration.

Once again, this sort of language "ethnic cleansing" is not helpful or accurate. If you want to know about ethnic cleansing, google Slobodan Milsosevic. There are ways of talking about immigration and the valid concerns surrounding it without resorting to sensationalism.

[DC]

Once again, this sort of language "ethnic cleansing" is not helpful or accurate. If you want to know about ethnic cleansing, google Slobodan Milsosevic. There are ways of talking about immigration and the valid concerns surrounding it without resorting to sensationalism.

White ethnic peoples are being either encouraged to move or simply dying out in certain areas. Explain another phrase to describe that.

[DTE]

White ethnic peoples are being either encouraged to move or simply dying out in certain areas. Explain another phrase to describe that.

Well encouraged to move could be described as...just that, and as for dying out...erm...natural causes?

Seriously, you think Labour's immigration policy is comparable to Slobodan Milosevic? There are valid criticisms and I agree that our immigration policy is ridiculous, but it is not ethnic cleansing.

[DC]

Well encouraged to move could be described as...just that, and as for dying out...erm...natural causes?

Seriously, you think Labour's immigration policy is comparable to Slobodan Milosevic? There are valid criticisms and I agree that our immigration policy is ridiculous, but it is not ethnic cleansing.

It isn't deliberate ethnic cleansing, but the result is effectively the same, a mono-ethnic area.

[Neo2012]

Firstly, I was well aware of this before I'd even looked at politics or the BNP. Secondly:

Have you been to leicester?
Have you been to Burnley?
Have you been to Peckham?
YouTube - Benefits Of Immigration? - South London - BNP

Go to any of these places and tell me that white people are not being ethnically cleansed. Not by murder, not by intimidation, simply by immigration and multiplying.

Seems to me that there is no such thing as multi-culturism in the liberal sense. I dont see any "intergration" in that video.

Just colonisation.

go to Australia, America, Spain and tell me the the same is not true in reverse. Due to technology, the world has got smaller, and travel is easier. We live in the global village, you ain't going to change that. People are not being ethnically cleansed, people are choosing to follow their dreams, and make the best life they can for themselves.

[Neo2012]

It isn't deliberate ethnic cleansing, but the result is effectively the same, a mono-ethnic area.

I live in a major city. mono-ethnic areas don't exist. Where there has been higher concentrations, it has usually been due to council, employer policies ie Oldham, economic opportunities and racism. Ethnic minorities themselves, placed racism as the major factor inhibiting their integration.

In the Oldham, in some trades, the employers used to employ ONLY asians on nights and whites on days.

[DC]

I live in a major city. mono-ethnic areas don't exist. Where there has been higher concentrations, it has usually been due to council, employer policies ie Oldham, economic opportunities and racism. Ethnic minorities themselves, placed racism as the major factor inhibiting their integration.

In the Oldham, in some trades, the employers used to employ ONLY asians on nights and whites on days.

Areas which were once inhabited by whites, but are now only inhabited by one culture or nationality. And to suggest they can't integrate is absurd. These days there are more support groups than you point a stick at, and the old days of employer racism are over. Considering how eager Labor is willing to support these communities, they have no excuses about not integrating.

[Patriot1]

go to Australia, America, Spain and tell me the the same is not true in reverse. Due to technology, the world has got smaller, and travel is easier. We live in the global village, you ain't going to change that. People are not being ethnically cleansed, people are choosing to follow their dreams, and make the best life they can for themselves.

"People arent being ethnically cleansed, they are choosing to follow their dreams". What a lovely way to spin it.
Its weird how peoples dreams end up bringing them over here to the UK, France, Germany, America and Russia etc.
Every developed nation is being flooded with third world immigrants.
As the population is predicted to increase, these nations are going to keep being hit with tidal waves of poor, unskilled, non-english speaking immigrants who bring over their ideology instead of embracing ours. When is enough?

Surely with nearly 3million unemployed its impossible for everyone to follow their dream?

I live in a major city. mono-ethnic areas don't exist. Where there has been higher concentrations, it has usually been due to council, employer policies ie Oldham, economic opportunities and racism. Ethnic minorities themselves, placed racism as the major factor inhibiting their integration.

Thats strange because I live in a major city and I also live in a mono-ethnic area. The mosque isnt too far.

[Neo2012]

"People arent being ethnically cleansed, they are choosing to follow their dreams". What a lovely way to spin it.
Its weird how peoples dreams end up bringing them over here to the UK, France, Germany, America and Russia etc.
Every developed nation is being flooded with third world immigrants.
As the population is predicted to increase, these nations are going to keep being hit with tidal waves of poor, unskilled, non-english speaking immigrants who bring over their ideology instead of embracing ours. When is enough?

Surely with nearly 3million unemployed its impossible for everyone to follow their dream?

I'm talking about English not being cleansed, but following thier dreams.

Thats strange because I live in a major city and I also live in a mono-ethnic area. The mosque isnt too far.

you must live in white mono-ethnic area then, as your existence there denies it could be of any other mono-ethnicity?

[DavidRose]

Your imput consisted of 'no comment' so I respectfully disagree.

The truth of the quote was so self-evident it hit a bullseye, you had to respond, I know.

Its says extermination, how does an influx of immigrants exterminate the white populace? The only way I can see of fitting this word into your opinion of whats happening is to suggest that mixed race babies are an 'extermination', is that what you mean?

Your answering your own question here by using the term 'white'. By definition you must agree with me that what you suggest is true.

They are the ones implying that diversity is somehow better, now maybe I agree with this, in certain instances yes, in my life knowing a diverse range of people from different backgrounds has, I would say, enriched my experiences,

It has made no difference. People from other ethnic backgrounds have always been looked down upon by whites, so I would suggest that there is a complete lack of sincerity in your words. Insincerity is one of the chief traits of the liberal establishment.

however, never in the above quote or here, did I mention anything about morality. But you did. Unprovoked. So I would guess that you think a single cultural society is somehow more moral than a multi-cultural one, is that a correct assumption? And if so, why?

Simply because there is less racial friction in a mono-cultural society.

[Barry]

White ethnic peoples are being either encouraged to move or simply dying out in certain areas. Explain another phrase to describe that.

Demographic changes?

[DC]

go to Australia, America, Spain and tell me the the same is not true in reverse. Due to technology, the world has got smaller, and travel is easier. We live in the global village, you ain't going to change that. People are not being ethnically cleansed, people are choosing to follow their dreams, and make the best life they can for themselves.

Yeah, not in Australia they're not. We are being flooded with Sri Lankans and Afgahnis, as well as Africans. Dandenong will soon become Australia's first Ghetto, why? Because that is a major African center. The high rate of African refugees settling there has caused crime and poverty. Nobody in their right mind goes there now. Australia once had a great immigration policy, Italians and Greeks came over and integrated successfully. Melbourne has the highest population of Greeks outside of Athens, but you wouldn't guess it. Why should developed nations put up with the third world coming to our countries, taking up our resources and causing problems to boot. Why doesn't their 'dream' involve their own country?

[DavidRose]

Yeah, not in Australia they're not. We are being flooded with Sri Lankans and Afgahnis, as well as Africans. Dandenong will soon become Australia's first Ghetto, why? Because that is a major African center. The high rate of African refugees settling there has caused crime and poverty. Nobody in their right mind goes there now. Australia once had a great immigration policy, Italians and Greeks came over and integrated successfully. Melbourne has the highest population of Greeks outside of Athens, but you wouldn't guess it. Why should developed nations put up with the third world coming to our countries, taking up our resources and causing problems to boot. Why doesn't their 'dream' involve their own country?

This is the typical experience around the world. Whites, wherever they come from, integrate seamlessly with the white population. Blacks however, end up in ghettoes. These people must always be led and controlled by whites if they are to get anywhere in the modern world. As a result their presence in the media and workplace is built on a illusion created entirely by the liberal establishment.

[The Untalented Mr Ripley]

Yeah, not in Australia they're not. We are being flooded with Sri Lankans and Afgahnis, as well as Africans. Dandenong will soon become Australia's first Ghetto, why? Because that is a major African center. The high rate of African refugees settling there has caused crime and poverty. Nobody in their right mind goes there now. Australia once had a great immigration policy, Italians and Greeks came over and integrated successfully. Melbourne has the highest population of Greeks outside of Athens, but you wouldn't guess it. Why should developed nations put up with the third world coming to our countries, taking up our resources and causing problems to boot. Why doesn't their 'dream' involve their own country?

Spot on. I can't understand why the governing liberal elite are so keen on allowing floods of undesirable immigrants, i.e. the ones who will add little or nothing to the nation state, who will not integrate and will insist on changing the nation's culture to reflect their own lesser values, to enter their countries.

This isn't a racial thing, its a common-sense thing. What is the point of having an effective immigration policy if it can be bypassed by 1,000s of "refugees" who travel to democratic western nations to settle, often travelling through many safe (but not as wealthy) countries.

[Patriot1]

you must live in white

mono-ethnic area then, as your existence there denies it could be of any other mono-ethnicity?

I wouldn't say ethnicity has to be 100% in an area to make it mon-enthnic. Just because me (and my housemates) are the only white guys on our street doesnt mean the area isnt mono-ethnic. There are a few white and black families around but it is predominantly a muslim area.

A coincidence is that this area has one of the highest rape rates in the country.

[DTE]

The truth of the quote was so self-evident it hit a bullseye, you had to respond, I know.

Whatever.

Your answering your own question here by using the term 'white'. By definition you must agree with me that what you suggest is true.

If there is some sort of logic at work here, I fail to see it. I use the term 'white' because you did, again for clarity:

That I choose to highlight evidence of someone advocating the silent genocide and discplacement of working class white Britains is certainly a problem for you.

Explain to me how this 'genocide' earns the right to be called that and I'll concede you may have a point.

It has made no difference. People from other ethnic backgrounds have always been looked down upon by whites, so I would suggest that there is a complete lack of sincerity in your words. Insincerity is one of the chief traits of the liberal establishment.

Aaah right then. So what you're saying is traditionally, white people are racist, therefore as I am not I must be insincere. This time you get 2 of them

Simply because there is less racial friction in a mono-cultural society.

Only if everyone thinks like you do.