Proved AGAIN in court, Griffin is a liar!

[Neo2012]

Proved AGAIN in court, Griffin is a liar!
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/BNP-Asian-Man-Accused-Of-Shouting-Racial-Abuse-At-Nick-Griffin-Cleared-At-Preston-Crown-Court/Article/200911115434545?lpos=UK_News_Article_Related_Conte nt_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15434545_BNP%3A_Asian_Man_ Accused_Of_Shouting_Racial_Abuse_At_Nick_Griffin_C leared_At_Preston_Crown_Court

[Barry]

Oh, come on, someone being found not guilty, does not prove the person making the allegation was lying.

It merely shows that the evidence did not meet the "beyond reasonable doubt" requirement of a criminal court.

[British]

The words Grasping, At and Straws springs to mind.

[DavidRose]

I'd be very surprised if it didn't happen exactly like Nick Griffin said.

Race attacks against whites in the north are on the increase, spurred by liberal propaganda that indigenous white English people have no more right to be in the UK than Pakistani Muslims and other immigrants. If they refuse this fascist doctrine then they are racists and should be attacked.

Nick should count himself lucky that he didn't end up like war veteran Walter Chamberlain. But I bet Neo2012 is going to tell us that Walter beat himself up.

[Patriot1]

Proved AGAIN in court, Griffin is a liar!
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/BNP-Asian-Man-Accused-Of-Shouting-Racial-Abuse-At-Nick-Griffin-Cleared-At-Preston-Crown-Court/Article/200911115434545?lpos=UK_News_Article_Related_Conte nt_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15434545_BNP%3A_Asian_Man_ Accused_Of_Shouting_Racial_Abuse_At_Nick_Griffin_C leared_At_Preston_Crown_Court

Doesnt prove it didnt happen, it proves that there isnt enough evidence to completely verify it.

I dont think we need a court to prove David Cameron is a liar.

Where did that referendum go, anyone?

[fubar]

This just reminds me of a conversations with a police officer with the armed response unit while working in Northampton, during the Bosnian War 92/95 there were plenty of immigrants from Yugoslavia the police officer told me that he was pissed of because he was stopped from doing his job properly, as he and his fellow officers were told to be lenient with the immigrants from Yugoslavia as given time they would integrate into our culture now this was ,rape charges drugs, extortion, prostitution, assault,and many more.

Previous to that a friend of mine in the Coventry police told me that we should double the amount of murders in and around the Coventry area, as they only allowed half of them to be reported in the press if not less. All for the sake of community cohesion.

Most recently in my local area of Nuneaton 384 crimes went unreported in one month details obtain under the freedom of information act. All withheld for the sake of community cohesion now your thinking but bear with me if the police are told to hold back information why stop there why not Judges and the Jury can be picked to benefit the defence sounds improbable i know but not impossible All for the sake of community cohesion.

[pauli007001]

I'd be very surprised if it didn't happen exactly like Nick Griffin said.

Race attacks against whites in the north are on the increase, spurred by liberal propaganda that indigenous white English people have no more right to be in the UK than Pakistani Muslims and other immigrants. If they refuse this fascist doctrine then they are racists and should be attacked.

Nick should count himself lucky that he didn't end up like war veteran Walter Chamberlain. But I bet Neo2012 is going to tell us that Walter beat himself up.

No i guess he will say that as no one has been convicted of the crime that it obviously didnt happen.

[pauli007001]

This just reminds me of a conversations with a police officer with the armed response unit while working in Northampton, during the Bosnian War 92/95 there were plenty of immigrants from Yugoslavia the police officer told me that he was pissed of because he was stopped from doing his job properly, as he and his fellow officers were told to be lenient with the immigrants from Yugoslavia as given time they would integrate into our culture now this was ,rape charges drugs, extortion, prostitution, assault,and many more.

Previous to that a friend of mine in the Coventry police told me that we should double the amount of murders in and around the Coventry area, as they only allowed half of them to be reported in the press if not less. All for the sake of community cohesion.

Most recently in my local area of Nuneaton 384 crimes went unreported in one month details obtain under the freedom of information act. All withheld for the sake of community cohesion now your thinking but bear with me if the police are told to hold back information why stop there why not Judges and the Jury can be picked to benefit the defence sounds improbable i know but not impossible All for the sake of community cohesion.

I can remember my 1 venture into Jury Duty, it was in 1997 at Bradford crown court.There were 3 juries at court at that time, each had its own foreman, they used to make bets with eachother to see who could get the most convictions in the 2 weeks they were foreman of the juries.
I simply voted the opposite of all the others, i was subjected to all kinds of abuse for doing so, but no one was jailed in the time i was on a jury, so i guess no miscarrage of justice occoured on my watch.

[Citizen Smith]

Anyone might think Griffin was looking for some publicity.
"Oh no! My Question time appearance is no longer a hot topic! I'll need something else to keep me in the public eye now!"
Trying to whip up some racial tension... the vast majority of people aren't buying it.

[British]

Anyone might think Griffin was looking for some publicity.
"Oh no! My Question time appearance is no longer a hot topic! I'll need something else to keep me in the public eye now!"
Trying to whip up some racial tension... the vast majority of people aren't buying it.

Your green with envy, aint ya'... Admit it.

[Citizen Smith]

Your green with envy, aint ya'... Admit it.

Fair enough, yep, I would LOVE for a socialist party to get half of the attention the BNP do.......
but not if it was as negative.

[Neo2012]

I'd be very surprised if it didn't happen exactly like Nick Griffin said.

Race attacks against whites in the north are on the increase, spurred by liberal propaganda that indigenous white English people have no more right to be in the UK than Pakistani Muslims and other immigrants. If they refuse this fascist doctrine then they are racists and should be attacked.

Nick should count himself lucky that he didn't end up like war veteran Walter Chamberlain. But I bet Neo2012 is going to tell us that Walter beat himself up.

Was this ever proved to be a racist attack? According to his family, it wasn't a racist attack spiked-liberties | Article | Same Oldham story? .
also


"The most notorious case of skewed reporting was the branding of a street robbery by Asians on Oldham pensioner Walter Chamberlain as 'racist' following its categorisation as such by the police--thus handing the BNP a propaganda coup on a plate. The subsequent trial of the Asian youths involved found that there was no racial motivation to the attack--but by that time the myth had become 'fact'."

So it seems once again, some people only believe what they want to.

[Barry]

Was this ever proved to be a racist attack? According to his family, it wasn't a racist attack spiked-liberties | Article | Same Oldham story? .
also


"The most notorious case of skewed reporting was the branding of a street robbery by Asians on Oldham pensioner Walter Chamberlain as 'racist' following its categorisation as such by the police--thus handing the BNP a propaganda coup on a plate. The subsequent trial of the Asian youths involved found that there was no racial motivation to the attack--but by that time the myth had become 'fact'."

So it seems once again, some people only believe what they want to.

Perhaps you may not realise that for the Police to record a racist or hate crime it only needs one person to give their opinion that it was such a crime.
It could have been the injured party, a police officer, a witness - or even a newspaper reporter.

[Neo2012]

Perhaps you may not realise that for the Police to record a racist or hate crime it only needs one person to give their opinion that it was such a crime.

It could have been the injured party, a police officer, a witness - or even a newspaper reporter.

Yup! I knew that. What came out was, the police were routinely reporting any kind involving mixed races as a racist crime, whether or not anyone believed it was. It came out the only ones that believed this was a racist crime where there ‘politicaly correct’ police and the ‘left wing’ media.

But now that is not my point, my point is, people like David Rose will keep on quoting that story as it suits their political agenda of scapegoating a minority, to gain political power/pay packets.

PS. The police in Oldham before the riots were notorious. Virtually all the ones with any power were ‘retired’ afterwards.

[Neo2012]

Your green with envy, aint ya'... Admit it.

but you do have to ask yourself, why does such a tiny insignificant party generate such headlines?

[DC]

but you do have to ask yourself, why does such a tiny insignificant party generate such headlines?

First of all, I think the BNP has proved it is far from insignificant. Secondly it it generates these headlines because of both its hard line stance, and the media hunting for headlines.

[Neo2012]

First of all, I think the BNP has proved it is far from insignificant. Secondly it it generates these headlines because of both its hard line stance, and the media hunting for headlines.

How has it proved it is far from insignificant. Respect has had more British MP's for a long long time, but has not had anywhere near the coverage.

Plus this ignores the fact, the BNP always had a massive amount of coverage, when they had very little representation. Why?

[Patriot1]

Plus this ignores the fact, the BNP always had a massive amount of coverage, when they had very little representation. Why?

Because they're just that good.

[Neo2012]

Because they're just that good.

According the media the? Nah, I think the words you looking for is "Because they're fascist scum!"

[Patriot1]

According the media the? Nah, I think the words you looking for is "Because they're fascist scum!"

Nope, according to me.

RULE BRITANNIA, BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES...

[Citizen Smith]

Nope, according to me.

RULE BRITANNIA, BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES...

Good to see you are reveling in patriotism- and in doing so rolling in the ****heap of fascism that is the history of our "great" nation.

[pauli007001]

Good to see you are reveling in patriotism- and in doing so rolling in the ****heap of fascism that is the history of our "great" nation.

Some of us dont live in the Past CS!!

In the present, or the future but not the past.

True Nationalism has its good points(not the BNP/NF variety of nationalism, that is racism not nationalism, they hijacked the term nationalist from the real nationalists).

[Kiwi 1691]

Nope, according to me.

RULE BRITANNIA, BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES...

Britan hasn't ruled anything for decades

[British]

Some of us dont live in the Past CS!!

In the present, or the future but not the past.

True Nationalism has its good points(not the BNP/NF variety of nationalism, that is racism not nationalism, they hijacked the term nationalist from the real nationalists).

I thought higher of you than that, Paul. I thought you were a 'thinking' man.
Clearly I'm wrong.

[Kiwi 1691]

I thought higher of you than that, Paul. I thought you were a 'thinking' man.
Clearly I'm wrong.

Well Pauli was correct in what he said, so where do you have an issue?

[Neo2012]

Some of us dont live in the Past CS!!

In the present, or the future but not the past.

True Nationalism has its good points(not the BNP/NF variety of nationalism, that is racism not nationalism, they hijacked the term nationalist from the real nationalists).

Fair point, well made.

Think a sense of community,,, does have it's "good point's". It is when it is turned to hatered by the fascist's, nationalism is dangerous. The people of this country while often patriotic, were sensibly wary of it after two world wars of carnage based upon it.

[Neo2012]

Well Pauli was correct in what he said, so where do you have an issue?

The BNP are a religous sect, you'll never get reasoned discussion. Anyone who disagrees with the sect is condemned to death, as an appostate.