(My relies are for the UK)


The Police ?? no because you never know which one is bent (not gay)
Doctors ? yes, if they speak English
Nurses ? yes, if they speak English and are not over worked
Politicians ?? No
Shopkeepers ? No, how many Muslim shop keepers go to extremist mosques and hate you?
Forum Members ?? No, obviously, hence the fact no one using their real name

Originally Posted by SussexWithLove

(My relies are for the UK)


The Police ?? no because you never know which one is bent (not gay)

except you can trust the majority of them!

Doctors ? yes, if they speak English

I'll let it pass, but the native tongue of a medical professional can't possibly effect their trustworthiness

Nurses ? yes, if they speak English and are not over worked

See above.

Politicians ? No

Depends what with but as people yes the majority could be trusted.

Shopkeepers ? No, how many Muslim shop keepers go to extremist mosques and hate you?

By no means the majority Suss and you know it!

Forum Members ?? No, obviously, hence the fact no one using their real name

I'd trust most of you to a certain level; scare stories have made us all more cautious of human contact than we probably should be and by far the majority of people are nice and trustworthy, now that doesn't mean one should take stupid risks but 99.9% of the time people are genuine.

In an idealistic world , we would all trust each other.In the real world , we learn to recognise not everyone is trustworthy ,and some people will take advantage of honesty.
Where possible , we must create and sustain trust , or we lose out on the benefits of co operation and mutual respect for each other. Trust is fundamental to the fabric of any community.I would trust an asian doctor before trusting a white politician , why? Over time , doctors irrespective of race , have largely proved trustworthy , politicians have not.
If we didn`t trust people , we would never learn anything useful , as they could be lying.

Originally Posted by SussexWithLove

Shopkeepers ? No, how many Muslim shop keepers go to extremist mosques and hate you?

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"You remember how he would trust strangers, and if they fooled him he would say, 'It's better to be fooled than to be suspicious'--that the confidence trick is the work of man, but the want-of-confidence trick is the work of the devil."

EM Forster
Howards End


But Forster said elsewhere (also in Howards End): To trust people is a luxury in which only the wealthy can indulge; the poor cannot afford it.

SussexWithLove attacked Muslims (his pet obsession) so I'll mention Christians. In Ireland currently the Catholic church is in deep trouble - a massive breakdown of public trust - because the priests were caught abusing children. Not just one or two but thousands: vulnerable children for whom the church was supposed to be caring.

But if you can afford it, it's better to trust and get ripped off occasionally, than to go through life peering suspiciously at people.

I am happy the way it is going. I work in a hospital and if muslims were stopped from working the hospital would come to a standstill. I could trust all the doctors I work with muslim or otherwise.
Here are some more that you can add.

• The Media ?
• Newsreaders ?
• Non-fiction writers ?
• Fire fighters ?
• Ambulance crews ?

Of course the list could go on and on.

Originally Posted by Balthazar

SussexWithLove attacked Muslims (his pet obsession) so I'll mention Christians. In Ireland currently the Catholic church is in deep trouble - a massive breakdown of public trust - because the priests were caught abusing children. Not just one or two but thousands: vulnerable children for whom the church was supposed to be caring.

But if you can afford it, it's better to trust and get ripped off occasionally, than to go through life peering suspiciously at people.

My pet obsession is rubber dolls actually, Islam does nothing for me.

The only shop I do not feel comfortable in is my local shop run by Pakistanis (probably has nothing to do with religion). I never get a thank you, the guys behind the counter always speak in a foreign language to each other while I am standing there. It does not make me want to trust them.

When I go in an Indian run shop they are always friendly and polite. I would trust them.

Originally Posted by Opinionated

except you can trust the majority of them!

ture

Originally Posted by Opinionated

I'll let it pass, but the native tongue of a medical professional can't possibly effect their trustworthiness

When it comes to my health, I feel more trustworthy with someone I can understand.

Ive been to the doctors before in the UK, come out and wondered what the bleep he said. This is wrong. How can I trust him giving me the correct medicine if I do not understand him, so maybe he does not understand me?

Originally Posted by Opinionated

Depends what with but as people yes the majority could be trusted.
By no means the majority Suss and you know it!

I disagree. The majority of political parties have been raping us out of our tax money.

Originally Posted by Opinionated

I'd trust most of you to a certain level; scare stories have made us all more cautious of human contact than we probably should be and by far the majority of people are nice and trustworthy, now that doesn't mean one should take stupid risks but 99.9% of the time people are genuine.

Agreed.

Trust no one and you will never be disappointed or let down, but you will also lack fulfillment in your life.

My experience is that you can trust most people on most issues and in general that is irrespective of their trade or profession.

I instinctively trust a doctor irrespective of their race, as long as I can understand them, the same applies to nurses, policemen and women, paramedics, and firemen mainly because there is little incentive for them to break your trust.

I instinctively distrust politicians, salespeople, builders, scrap metal merchants and motor mechanics because there is a real opportunity for them to benefit, at least once by breaching my trust. That said I know at least one person well in each category above, and know I can trust them implicitly.

Originally Posted by Major Sinic

I instinctively trust a doctor

That's an interesting statement. I heard Dr. Richard Taylor (Independent MP for Wyre Forest and the only independent MP to have retained his seat for a second term since 1949) talking on TV recently. He's a lovely old boy and said (quoting from memory):

"It's easy to get elected as an MP if you're a doctor. You just have to be polite and reasonably competent and people instinctively trust you."

Why do people tend to trust their quacks instinctively? The knowledge that we're all going to die and a good quack is essential to ease us on our way?

Taylor said he hoped a lot of doctors would stand as independents next year. He pointed out that doctors don't need a local party machine: they already have one. Doctors tend to know hundreds of people - the names on their surgery list - and enjoy that special relationship of trust with many of them. They're also associated with a much-loved institution - the NHS.

I hope he's right and a network of quacks in marginal seats are getting themselves organised. Such a network would scare the pants off the traditional parties. It's very hard, almost impossible, to attack a respected local doctor without it blowing up in your face.

Instictivly trust a DR, that was what Harold Shipman depended on in order to do his thing, the instictive trust of his victims.Trust me Im a DR.......

DTA is my motto in life.Dont Trust Anyone.

Of course if someone earns the honor of my trust by their actions in life, i will trust them, until then though DTA!!!!!!

I feel that the threads went with my first posting, and I have learnt a couple of lessons about trust. I think can now trust members of this forum, which is great result for me.

Hey Ian, welcome to the forum. Suppose I could find your welcome thread but I'll just do it in this one. On to your list...

Originally Posted by Ian The Poet

So who in society can we trust?
The Police ??

No. Maybe. Some of them. Not if you are protesting. Or walking away from near a protest.

Originally Posted by Ian The Poet

Doctors ?

Yes but trust is affected when they don't speak great English. I've had asian doctors throw inelligble statements at me and yes... its not nice. Then again, going to the doctors in general is rarely a positive experience.

Originally Posted by Ian The Poet

Nurses ?

Yes. Anyone who will do a such an inversely propotional worth-to-pay profession deserves my trust.

Originally Posted by Ian The Poet

Politicians ??

Not the seasoned ones. The new guys are perhaps less assimilated into the machine of politics.

Originally Posted by Ian The Poet

Shopkeepers ?

Yes. Even when they speak in different languages. Hey Sussex, instead of thinking "I bet they are talking about me and my filthy westernised ways" think "I bet they are complimenting my hat".

You may need to buy a new hat for that to work.

Originally Posted by Ian The Poet

Forum Members ??

Don't trust me any more because it says I'm a doctor. I'm not. I do find it easier to trust the right-wing though, as they usually say what they mean more than the lefties.

Originally Posted by Dr The Evidence

Yes. Even when they speak in different languages. Hey Sussex, instead of thinking "I bet they are talking about me and my filthy westernised ways" think "I bet they are complimenting my hat".

You may need to buy a new hat for that to work.

I wouldnt mind (AS MUCH) if they were polite.

Originally Posted by Ian The Poet

I feel that the threads went with my first posting, and I have learnt a couple of lessons about trust. I think can now trust members of this forum, which is great result for me.

On this forum are a massive number of anonymous members ranging from the insane right to the lunatic left, interspersed with half a dozen trolls coming from every angle, joined with a couple of certifiably insane Americans who think the whole world is communist except for them and their immediate families. Ian, don't you think that you are offering your trust a little prematurely?

ps. you can trust me! They wouldn't have let me out of the asylum for a week, if you couldn't!!