The real men who hide under loads of pads and helmets?

Originally Posted by flash

I am just pleased as can be you have the opportunity to see a real man's game for a change.

Call us after you've been to a rugby match.

And in any case, "real" football, i.e. the one where you use your feet to kick the ball, is no 'pansies' game as it happens. Google David Buust.

Originally Posted by JacquesMagique

The real men who hide under loads of pads and helmets?

If you have a 6'4" 350 lb linebacker running at you and he has the intention of tearing your head off you had better have pads or a helmet.

Without a little protective gear each team would only play about one game a year before the whole team would be in the hospital.

Like I said, it is a man's game, not like like sissy soccer where the women play the same game as the men.

Originally Posted by JAMC

Call us after you've been to a rugby match.

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American football is commercialized rugby.

Originally Posted by flash

American football is commercialized rugby.

With pads and helmets.

Originally Posted by JacquesMagique

With pads and helmets.

...and bigger and more professional players. It is probably the roughest wide spread sport played in the world. It is not a bunch of college kids trying to prove they are tough for their girlfriends or a bunch of semi alcoholic middle age men playing in the park on Sunday like rugby players. The average career of a NFL player is only three years due to injuries and that is with the protection.

I suggest that next year you go to the NFL game in London and see what it is all about. After you watch the physicalness of the game then I want you to repost.

In the US we have lots of people that play rugby for fun. There are almost no recreational football games simply because it is too hard on the players. Where there are recreational leagues it is usually flag football without the tackling.

I have seen your posted picture. I doubt you would last one play on the line in American football and that is with the padding and helmet.

I hate football games. They are so borinnnng.Start then stop. Start then stop and then I never know what's going on.

Originally Posted by claire

I hate football games. They are so borinnnng.Start then stop. Start then stop and then I never know what's going on.

Spoken like a the typical little girl.

Actually in my house my wife is a bigger football fan than me. For instance, I probably don't watch two complete football games in a year while she watches every Tampa Bay Bucs and every University of Florida Gator game if she is home.

We met up with some friends last night at church and then we all went out to get a bite to eat afterwards. My wife insisted we go to Beef 'O Bradys simply because she could watch the Gator game.

Originally Posted by flash

...and bigger and more professional players. It is probably the roughest wide spread sport played in the world. It is not a bunch of college kids trying to prove they are tough for their girlfriends or a bunch of semi alcoholic middle age men playing in the park on Sunday like rugby players. The average career of a NFL player is only three years due to injuries and that is with the protection.

You're obviously not all that familiar with rugby.

I suggest that next year you go to the NFL game in London and see what it is all about. After you watch the physicalness of the game then I want you to repost.

I watched the superbowl a while back (whenever the Pittsburg Steelers played Arizona Cardinals). It didn't strike me as particularly more phyciasl than rugby.

In the US we have lots of people that play rugby for fun. There are almost no recreational football games simply because it is too hard on the players. Where there are recreational leagues it is usually flag football without the tackling.

Maybe these are the less professional players you are mistaking actuak rugby players for?

I have seen your posted picture. I doubt you would last one play on the line in American football and that is with the padding and helmet.

Why are you alwys arguing to the person? I was merely making an observation.

I seem to remember somewear the yanks were invited to play rugby league or union at some time in the past as i remember they refused, i think on the grounds thay could not wear pading HA HA. Would like to se the yanks play real rugby??bunch of poofs if you ask me.

Rugby and Football are far better than American Football


Rugby has the physicality of American Football, but with out the pansy helmets and pads.

I'd Like to the players in American Football get into fist fights on the field, (it happens alot in rugby league, without pads).

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...0_fight300.jpg

Would and American Football players want to take on rugby players without their pads?

Look at Jonah in his prime, I would not like to tackle him.

http://www.moscow.com/images/listings/jonah_lomu.jpg

Or some funky tackles


http://images.supersport.co.za/HabanaTacklesSANZ105.jpg

That would hurt

http://www.motifake.com/image/demoti...1207085233.jpg
That tells you alot

American Football is not Football

http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/...60-handegg.jpg

Originally Posted by fubar

I seem to remember somewear the yanks were invited to play rugby league or union at some time in the past as i remember they refused, i think on the grounds thay could not wear pading HA HA. Would like to se the yanks play real rugby??bunch of poofs if you ask me.

Rugby is an interesting game and many Americans play it. However, it is not very popular and it is a relatively boring game to watch. American football took the roughness of rugby and turned it into a better, more intelligent and much more exciting sport.

American football is what rugby would be if it was more interesting.

85,000 people showed up at the football game in London today. When was the last time that many people attended a rugby game? According to this source American football leads the world in attendance records. Rugby is minor on this list.

List of attendance figures at domestic professional sports leagues - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


That doesn't even include college football, which generally has a yearly attendence of about 40 million people and that doesn't include the TV audience.

When a rugby game can draw an audience of almost a hundred million people like a single American football game then we will talk.

Originally Posted by flash

My wife insisted we go to Beef 'O Bradys simply because she could watch the Gator game.

Speaking of which, I think your Gators look a little vulnerable. Tebow doesn't have the same weapons he had last year, with the loss of Percy Harvin being the most significant. I think Saban and the Tide are going to give y'all hell in the SEC title game. Whoever wins that one will probably get Texas in the BCS title game.

Originally Posted by Tantal

Speaking of which, I think your Gators look a little vulnerable. Tebow doesn't have the same weapons he had last year, with the loss of Percy Harvin being the most significant. I think Saban and the Tide are going to give y'all hell in the SEC title game. Whoever wins that one will probably get Texas in the BCS title game.

You are right. They don't look as good this year as last year. I am scared of Bama. You do know that the Florida/Alabama game will be the real National Championship game don't you?

American Football is about as 'foot' as tennis - stupid name for a poor mans crib of rugby

Originally Posted by flash

Rugby is an interesting game and many Americans play it. However, it is not very popular and it is a relatively boring game to watch. American football took the roughness of rugby and turned it into a better, more intelligent and much more exciting sport.

American football is what rugby would be if it was more interesting.

85,000 people showed up at the football game in London today. When was the last time that many people attended a rugby game? According to this source American football leads the world in attendance records. Rugby is minor on this list.

List of attendance figures at domestic professional sports leagues - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


That doesn't even include college football, which generally has a yearly attendence of about 40 million people and that doesn't include the TV audience.

When a rugby game can draw an audience of almost a hundred million people like a single American football game then we will talk.

Well there was as far as I know there was just one American Football game in England yesterday. It would have been popular for its novelty value, and once people have seen a game, attendance would rapidly drop off. Whilst there was just the one American Football game there were up to half a dozen Rugby Union Premier League matches with an average of 20,000 fans, and then several hundred regional matches, with many more tens of thousands of supporters.

A very similar scenario took place in France, Italy, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Tonga, Fijjii, Samoa etc etc. Not to mention all the Rugby League matches taking place around the world.

I can understand your failure to enjoy Rugby Union Flash. First of all it is not American, so by your definition that prevents it being enjoyable. Secondly it is a complex game and needs an understanding built up over a period to fully appreciate it.

Wikipedia is an extensively free entry 'on line' encyclopaedia, with by far the most entries entered by your fellow countrymen. It is therefore fundamentally flawed, and largely disregarded by all, except those desperately seeking a statistical prop to support their preposterous claims. Not that I am for one moment suggesting that this is the case with your post .

As we 'yurrupeens' see things - America invented a whole bunch of sports that nobody else in the world plays, then called them 'world series' and even crowned winners 'world' champions - neat move folks but we don't buy it

7's may stand a chance of being popular in USA.


Dam Yanks stole Ka mate, then ruined it.

YouTube - HAKA - The Trojan Style

Ka Mate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They actually stole it, ka mate belongs to the tribe Ngati Toa

Originally Posted by flash

You are right. They don't look as good this year as last year. I am scared of Bama. You do know that the Florida/Alabama game will be the real National Championship game don't you?

It usually works that way because the SEC is such a tough conference. An average SEC team could win the Big 10, Big East, or ACC....not to mention the WAC or Mountain West conferences. You never know though. Texas, with McCoy and Shipley, can be very explosive. As a general rule I hate the University of Texas, but Colt McCoy is such a good guy that I'd like to see him win a title on his way to the NFL.

Originally Posted by Kiwi 1691

7's may stand a chance of being popular in USA.


Dam Yanks stole Ka mate, then ruined it.

YouTube - HAKA - The Trojan Style

Ka Mate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They actually stole it, ka mate belongs to the tribe Ngati Toa

Funny you should post that, Kiwi. The video is of the Euless Trinity Trojans, which is the high school that I attended. Yes, those are our 'children' in the video. The guy leading the Haka was only 17 years old at the time. The City of Euless has a large Tongan population, many of whom grew up playing Rugby. For those unaware, the dance is from the Maori tribe of New Zealand, but has been popularized in sports by the All-Blacks Rugby team. Most of them work at D/FW International Airport, a third of which is actually located in Euless, because they get free flight benefits to go back to Tonga (and Samoa) to visit relatives.

Somebody posted that 20,000 would show up to see a Rugby match. In 2006 we had 46,000 show up at Texas Stadium (the Dallas Cowboys' former home until Jerry Jones built the 8th Wonder of the World down in Arlington) to see Euless Trinity play Southlake Carroll. Not a bad turnout to watch a bunch of 'kids' play a football game.

Here's the most recent Haka from the Trojans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxB25H4yB2E

And here are the Trojans getting their own Gatorade commercial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urVdm...eature=related

Originally Posted by Major Sinic

Wikipedia is an extensively free entry 'on line' encyclopaedia, with by far the most entries entered by your fellow countrymen. It is therefore fundamentally flawed, and largely disregarded by all, except those desperately seeking a statistical prop to support their preposterous claims. Not that I am for one moment suggesting that this is the case with your post .

I agree and because of that I hardly ever use Wikipedia as a reference. There were other references I Googled that had the same stats. I used Wikipedia because it had the easiest to read chart. If you read their footnote you will see it was lifted from another source. If you think it the figures are wong then post your rebuttal.

Originally Posted by flash

I agree and because of that I hardly ever use Wikipedia as a reference. There were other references I Googled that had the same stats. I used Wikipedia because it had the easiest to read chart. If you read their footnote you will see it was lifted from another source. If you think it the figures are wong then post your rebuttal.

You could argue that Wikipedia is a free resource - totally altruistic in its content and not carrying advertising - so it's probably half trustworthy

Originally Posted by Tantal

It usually works that way because the SEC is such a tough conference. An average SEC team could win the Big 10, Big East, or ACC....not to mention the WAC or Mountain West conferences. You never know though. Texas, with McCoy and Shipley, can be very explosive. As a general rule I hate the University of Texas, but Colt McCoy is such a good guy that I'd like to see him win a title on his way to the NFL.

I like Tennesse because the coach has a hottie wife.

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-...yla-kiffin.jpg

Originally Posted by flash

I like Tennesse because the coach has a hottie wife.

Agree on the wife, but Lane Kiffen is a serious douche.

City of champs right herrrrrrrrrrr. Penguins and the stillers. Enough said. I guess it's just to compensate for the worst team in history: the pirates.

Originally Posted by claire

City of champs right herrrrrrrrrrr. Penguins and the stillers. Enough said. I guess it's just to compensate for the worst team in history: the pirates.

Hmm you are from Pittsburgh? When I was at Disneyland in LA, this guy in a shop asked me if I was from Pittsburgh. Confused me a lot, because my accent is pretty regional.

Originally Posted by Kiwi 1691

Rugby and Football are far better than American Football


Rugby has the physicality of American Football, but with out the pansy helmets and pads.




Look at Jonah in his prime, I would not like to tackle him.

http://www.moscow.com/images/listings/jonah_lomu.jpg

Marion the Barbarian would rape him in the shower.....not because he's gay, but just to establish his dominance.
YouTube - Barbarism