Clear blue water between Cons and Labs

[Expounder]

As the gap closes between the Tories and Labour to 3% Cameron has had to change tack and go for the tried and tested policy of public sector cut backs and tax give aways.

This has put clear blue water between the parties and the ruck is on. The Tories new policies have been decided out of desperation at the closing gap in the polls and the electorate's approval of Browns borrowing policy.

This policy statement means a reintroduction of Thatcherite policies which were rejected by the electorate in 97. No matter how much Brown may be disliked by a large section of the electorate, to vote for such policies will be a step too far for people with the memory of Thatchers reign still indelibly imprinted in their minds.

Cameron has promised to ringfence the NHS from cuts but how good will that promise hold?

David Cameron must join the real world and fight Labour's big lies - Telegraph

[13th November 1002]

As the gap closes between the Tories and Labour to 3% Cameron has had to change tack and go for the tried and tested policy of public sector cut backs and tax give aways.

This has put clear blue water between the parties and the ruck is on. The Tories new policies have been decided out of desperation at the closing gap in the polls and the electorate's approval of Browns borrowing policy.

This policy statement means a reintroduction of Thatcherite policies which were rejected by the electorate in 97. No matter how much Brown may be disliked by a large section of the electorate, to vote for such policies will be a step too far for people with the memory of Thatchers reign still indelibly imprinted in their minds.

Cameron has promised to ringfence the NHS from cuts but how good will that promise hold?

David Cameron must join the real world and fight Labour's big lies - Telegraph

Nice try.

So the Tories have a little different policy to Labour on Tax and spending. And the NHS is to be ringfenced from cuts.

Were Labour about to cut swathes into NHS spending?

What crashing waves of difference of new policies do we have on Iraq? Are the troops going to withdraw on that blue sunrise. No?

What briny difference will we see in Europe? Exit from the EU. No? Perhaps the Tories will finally do something to help our farmers and fishermen from the debiliting grasp of politicians far away? No?

What swathes of Main will be breached to clear up crime. Anything drastic, zero tolerence, new prisons, long sentencing? No?

Any chance of even a streamlet of difference to secure the borders properly from the millions of kilo of narcotics entering the nation each year. No?

Or a puddle of difference in policies about the trafficing of illegals, especially women forced into prostitution by the multitude. Thousands of border guards? No?

Okay, how about capping fuel, gas or electricty price scamming? Perhaps a splash of a chance? No?

Etc........

Would there really be as much as a drop of blue water between a Labour or Conservative adminstration. No.

[Albion 69]

As the gap closes between the Tories and Labour to 3% Cameron has had to change tack and go for the tried and tested policy of public sector cut backs and tax give aways.

This has put clear blue water between the parties and the ruck is on. The Tories new policies have been decided out of desperation at the closing gap in the polls and the electorate's approval of Browns borrowing policy.

This policy statement means a reintroduction of Thatcherite policies which were rejected by the electorate in 97. No matter how much Brown may be disliked by a large section of the electorate, to vote for such policies will be a step too far for people with the memory of Thatchers reign still indelibly imprinted in their minds.

Cameron has promised to ringfence the NHS from cuts but how good will that promise hold?

David Cameron must join the real world and fight Labour's big lies - Telegraph

That was one poll Exp ,the other day it was 11% but the gap has undoubtedly closed , the Financial crisis has a silver lining for some it would seem .

Your analysis of the Conservatives policy is rather mischevious , fully funded tax cuts and smaller increases in public spending than your lot can hardly be described as Thatcherite (not that is anything wrong with Thatcherism !).
The Tories believe in Prudent responsible fiscal and monetary policy , something Brown used to believe in. All the parties policies have been made up on the hoof , only one party is throwing caution to the wind giving a multi billion pound tax con to be funded with borrowed money risking economic meltdown .
What will Brown do next if this fiscal stimulus has little effect ? ... more borrowing ? Another visit to the IMF looms large

[Expounder]

Albion 69;52760]That was one poll Exp ,the other day it was 11% but the gap has undoubtedly closed , the Financial crisis has a silver lining for some it would seem

I agree Albion but it was all done and dusted for the Tories a few months ago. "It's events dear boy it's events" As MacMillan said inthe 50s.

Your analysis of the Conservatives policy is rather mischevious , fully funded tax cuts and smaller increases in public spending than your lot can hardly be described as Thatcherite (not that is anything wrong with Thatcherism !).

With respect Albion, I think the majority of the British People who lived through the Thatcher years would disagree with you. Cuts in public spending and tax givaways resulted the high earners and the rich getting richer, with Jo bloggs finding his small tax advantage disappearing because of inflation.

The Tories believe in Prudent responsible fiscal and monetary policy , something Brown used to believe in. All the parties policies have been made up on the hoof , only one party is throwing caution to the wind giving a multi billion pound tax con to be funded with borrowed money risking economic meltdown

This is how other countries in recession have agreed to tackle the problem Britain can't be the odd man out.

What will Brown do next if this fiscal stimulus has little effect ? ... more borrowing ? Another visit to the IMF looms large

We're in unchartered waters with the rest of the global economy, it's anybodys guess whats going to happen, doing nothing, or trying trying to go it alone, is not an option.

[Albion 69]

I agree Albion but it was all done and dusted for the Tories a few months ago. "It's events dear boy it's events" As MacMillan said inthe 50s.

Very true Exp , i still believe a painful lingering recession can do nothing but harm to the government , the polls will widen once more .... but then i would say that wouldn't i

With respect Albion, I think the majority of the British People who lived through the Thatcher years would disagree with you. Cuts in public spending and tax givaways resulted the high earners and the rich getting richer, with Jo bloggs finding his small tax advantage disappearing because of inflation.

Many would yes , but i remind you they elected her time after time if things were so bad for Jo Bloggs in his right to buy ex council house why keep voting her back ?

This is how other countries in recession have agreed to tackle the problem Britain can't be the odd man out.

Tut tut , that is the Party line Exp and wholly inaccurate , i refer you to the G20 communique which stated in a tiny section of a 3000 word statement .... fiscal stimulus should be used where appropriate .... each country has different levels of debt going into the recession the UK being one of the worst . One solution does not fit all scenarios , only Brown claims this is the case to give him an excuse to pump up the borrowing.

We're in unchartered waters with the rest of the global economy, it's anybodys guess whats going to happen, doing nothing, or trying trying to go it alone, is not an option.

We are , which is why reckless increases in borrowing may tip us over the edge . No one is suggesting doing nothing , we just disagree on the best course of action ... there is no one size fits all solution .

PS are you still having problems accessing the Tory section ?

[Expounder]

Albion 69;52808]Very true Exp , i still believe a painful lingering recession can do nothing but harm to the government , the polls will widen once more .... but then i would say that wouldn't i

Many would yes , but i remind you they elected her time after time if things were so bad for Jo Bloggs in his right to buy ex council house why keep voting her back ?

I agree that was her masterstroke, but after all it didn't cost her anything as mainly controlled Labour controlled authorities had to foot the bill as they were forced to sell council owned properties at a discount.

She prevented any further council housing to be built from the proceeds of the sales, which along with the poll tax which pushed many inner city councils to the edge of bankrupty, which was her intention.

Her council house giveaways which was the only feather in her cap didn't balance against the rest of her policies which the electorate became to hate.

I strongly believe that had the Argentinians not provided her with a reason to go to war she would not have been re-elected.

P.S. Re the Tory section, I misunderstood where the word private applied. Every thing is ok thanks.