Hi,
in the main the leaders of such organisations are those who can.
Regards,
Greg_L-W.
This is a discussion on New world government, is it time for it to come out of the closet? within the Conspiracy Theories forums, part of the Coffee Room category; There have been many theorists who think there is a secret world organization that overseas all goings ons and manipulates ...
There have been many theorists who think there is a secret world organization that overseas all goings ons and manipulates things to go in a direction it sees fit.
I would like to open up the discussion on this topic in this thread as it seems to pollute so many threads in the forum and it would be a good place to organize the information in one cohesive thread.
So lets drag these leaders out of the closet! Who will begin? *ponders*
Hi,
in the main the leaders of such organisations are those who can.
Regards,
Greg_L-W.
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We certainly have organisations like the UN and the OECD who think that they can over-ride many national laws irrespective of the sovereignty of independent member countries by applying subtle, and at times rather unsubtle, pressure, but to stretch that to imply that there's any worldwide organised political manipulation going on, is, in my view, conspiracy for conspiracy's sake.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised 'for the good of its victims' may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us 'for our own good' will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C.S. Lewis
There is a desire for organisations like the UN to enlarge their frontiers and grow bigger over time, but I do not see this as conspiracy, but rather an obvious open show of wanting to occupy much larger portions of planet earth as time progresses. It is in the nature of any organisation to want to grow and expand its vision, how much more an inter- or supranational one. It is the human condition. The UN are on a practical peace mission, like where they are by Russia's frontiers and offering a line to Ukrainians et al. Look at Javier Solana's available reported speeches and his work of engineering the peaceful diplomatic negotiations with as many countries as possible. I think he is a good man, and is doing a fine job of at least trying for a oneworld empire based in the UN and/or the EU (as he is a Spaniard) in which there will be no more dispute or conflict. I'd take my hat off to him if I wore one! We need people like him in the world, who are positively trying to undermine the threat of nuclear holocaust and of division in the world. I would like to work with him or someone like him one day.
It is not so much that they were closet globalists-or globalizers, if you like-but that they did/do not have much/enough confidence and support from other peoples (like the public). I would rather live under a protective global banner afforded by the benevolence of such organisations like the UN, than under an uncertain future in an insecure world that could break up and descend into war at any time. This is what the building of Babel was all about, a united peoples so that we do not become scattered a second time and so our historical turmoil repeat itself. Can we not all live on the same planet together in mutual respect and peace; then why not a global government to conduct and oversee our affairs for us? What is the alternative but instability and revolutionary factions?
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I agree with the sediment thus far. I don't think there is any secret globalists. But i do like a good conspiracy. I would actually like to see a global organization or government. Our economies are global our communications are global, and we have different cultures all over the world. there is to much corruption because the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing and a global government could see things right in my opinion.
The levels of power and empowerment to which humanity could aspire and attain as one world rather than three+ (it used to be the developed, the developing and the un[der]developed, but now it is East-West as well, with Russia more Eastward leaning as time goes on).
It would mean less privacy and possibly stiffer police conrol, even curbing freedom of speech, but it has its own typical advantages as well. There would be more accountability all round, like from governments, resulting in complete freedom of the press. There would be the potential for lucrative growth-together-under an equal ops programme where business have more chance to compete on their own rather than selling out to a corporation who would consolidate them or outdo everyone when it gets ahead in the game. Their would be regulation of growth, expansion and selling out to bigger companies, for example Rupert Murdoch had a purchase request for something turned down, did he not, I can't remember what, possibly a satellite TV station or something to do with the internet. No company would outdo and enjoy better privileges than others-fair game. All this under an internazi international socialist empire from which everyone gets a fair deal through economic regulation.
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