When did this happen? The details in your post aren't very clear. Is this a recent event?

Originally Posted by crazylilting

When did this happen? The details in your post aren't very clear. Is this a recent event?

2003.......

Yes but the autopsy thing is recent and the results of the latest coroner report are recent , if I had talked about that but not given the backround you would have complained about that.

David Kelly post mortem to be kept secret for 70 years as doctors accuse Lord Hutton of concealing vital information | Mail Online

again though it is all you have to combat the truth

Originally Posted by AMGINGLES

Yes but the autopsy thing is recent and the results of the latest coroner report are recent , if I had talked about that but not given the backround you would have complained about that.

David Kelly post mortem to be kept secret for 70 years as doctors accuse Lord Hutton of concealing vital information | Mail Online

again though it is all you have to combat the truth

Combat what truth? We can make all the assumptions in the world but that's all they are unless you were their when it happened?

This was a most strange case, and the implementation of the 70 year rule reinforces that their are some very sensitive secrets to protect.
Murdering an innocent man who was whistle-blowing could well be considered sensitive!
The whole matter never added up at the time, and it does not bear examination now.
The 70 year rule should be challenged by judicial review.

I'll take that

Hi,

a clear and obvious suicide with the added proof that it was very clearly NOT a murder.

Sadly Government policy has played straight into the hands of the fruit loops and conspiracy theorists who will play it for all it is worth without a shred of valid evidence and fact after fact showing it was NOT a murder.

This has all the makings of another fantasy 'STORY' like the Hollie Greig fantasy - NO EVIDENCE = NO CASE.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

There ia evidence though greg Dr Kelly 'couldn't have slit his wrist as he was too weak' | Mail Online obviously you spend more time composing you fillibusters than you do in research.

Hi,

if you can not conduct a discussion without childish insults - call it quits here.

Clearly YOU have no experience on which to base your claims.

G.L-W.

Hi,

for those with something intelligent to offer on this silly fantasy about the suicide of David Kelly there is a really lame story in yesterday's Daily Mail:

Do you hear the bottom of the barrel being scraped?

Even the Daily Mail are all if, and, but and maybe.

They can’t even get the simplest of facts right:

>>Dr Kelly's body was discovered in woods close to his Oxfordshire home in July 2003.<<

NO – David Kelly’s body was found in an open field about 30-40 yards from the woods towards the road and completely in the open about 20 yards from a lone tree to the right.

David Kelly killed himself – there is every reason to understand, and believe why he did it.

Further there is absolutely no reason why ANYONE except his wife might bother killing him – he was irrrrrelevant.

Of course KGB operatives (did he mean FSB or is he that long out of service) make destabilising comments!!! Duh.

As for Peter Everrett – well he would know wouldn’t he!!!

Dulwich private dick who employs ex (presumably dumped) MI5 agents (so WHO claims?) – quite a good pitch if you are trying to overcharge for dodgey services – most of which can be done on the internet. Except GENUINE active members’ wives one of which was dressed up as a Nazi death camp guard servicing Max Mosley’s sick sexual fantasies – I do appreciate she didn’t have the right uniform on both as authentic death camp guard is not much in demand this century and prostitutes at the end of the dy are more known for their lack of costume and the depth of their requirements!

I’m surprised the Mail is so short of stories they publish this tosh.

There are enough reasons to put Blair, Brown, Straw, Prescott and others in his cabinet on trial for crimes against humanity and John Scarlett and Alastaire Campbell also similarly embroiled in War crimes and mass murders.
WITHOUT inventing Bigglesesque fantasies about a relative no body with a failed marriage who had just got the sack and would never see his American mistress again but had to play act a marriage until after his daughter’s own marriage when EVERYBODY knew his wife would toss him out as soon as the daughter was married off.

There are Many practical reasons as well as factual and emotional reasons supporting all the evidence of

S U I C I D E

Even if it may not be as much fun believing the truth when a good conspiracy THEORY would pass the time!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

I think its about time the chinese extracted you again Greg , you are a loose cannon.

Originally Posted by AMGINGLES

I think its about time the chinese extracted you again Greg , you are a loose cannon.

Can we cut out the personal remarks please! Attack the post if you wish, but not the poster.

I think I will , Greg how can you posibly justify keeping the results of the post mortem secret for 70 years ? , seriously.

Originally Posted by AMGINGLES

I think I will , Greg how can you posibly justify keeping the results of the post mortem secret for 70 years ? , seriously.

Hi,

please identify where I did?

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

Originally Posted by AMGINGLES

I think its about time the chinese extracted you again Greg , you are a loose cannon.

Hi,

I believe it was a Mortar which was extracted from China and canons from sevastapoll - in both instances they stand in front of New college RMA Sandhurst.

Beneath the view of Mars & Minerva emblematic of the spoils of war.

Prithy find your depth gage and try to stay within it but swinging the lead may prove inadequate.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

Well Greg you said it was a "clear and obvious suicide" surely if that were the case they would have no reason to keep the post mortem secret , also , can you explain , in your view ofcourse , why they didn't have an inquest , which is a legal requirement in any unexplained death. Given ofcourse that an inquest requires witnesses to tell the truth , were'as a inquiry only invites them to do so.

What's with all these conspiracy theory threads? Is this a serious political and social debating forum or an Alex Jones appriciation forum? AMGINGLES, the only evidence you are presenting here seems to be coming from the daily mail.
If the mail is to be believed, we better all stop eating, drinking, working, sleeping, being awake, and all crawl into a dark cave and hope we don't die of air cancer.

In order for this ridiculous conspiracy to murder Dr Kelly to be true, there would have to have been dozens of people complicit in it, including Tony Blair. Given the relative ease with which sensative and secret information tends to leak from Whitehall, Westminster and Downing Street, it seems to me self evident that a conspiracy of this nature, with the potential consiquences to those involved, is nothing more than a fantasy in the minds of demigogue journalists.

Hi,

to add to DaveUK's common sense comments may I presume to add - that there was no inquest is clearly, as the poster stated 'an inquest must be held in suspicious circumstances' the suicide of Dr. david Kelly was not remotely sensative.

As for closure for 100 years - this device is being increasingly used by corruption of the law.

The most noted example was the effective abandonment of China Gordon by the political elite, who failed deliberately to resupply him and his small army at Khartoum and then went on to refuse to pay The Mahdi ransom when he was taken prisoner.

The very last thing the politicians wanted was the return of the recalcitrant General who was such a threat to them.

The next notable case was the corruption of The Inquiry of October 1996 into the Shooting at Dunblane Primary School on 13 March 1996 by Lord Cullen and there is still a small group of us seeking the truth and the release of the 26 shelf feet of documentary evidence removed and embargoed on the unlawfull corruption by Lord Cullen - who went on to corrupt the framing of Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi for the Pan Am flight 103 of 21-Dec-1988, for which the duplicitous Lord Cullen's own summing up of the trial showed Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi was clearly not guilty of planting the bomb under either British or Scottish law.

That Kenny McKaskill made absolutely the right decision when he released Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi is irrefutable and we should take no lectures based on the terms of barbarism of much of America's implementation of Laws, either domestic or International.

That it was deemed apposite to embargo the paperwork of David Kelly's suicide for 100 years is yet another nonsense though his Government position and the lies of Tony Blair in prosecuting his illegal wars may be a consideration though I believe Blair and his dishonest colleagues should face prosecution for their war crimes and undeniable crimes against humanity.

Dr. David Kelly was a high wired individual as his 'performance' before the HoC committee showed but his autopsy and an Inquiry would have harmed Blair perhaps but clearly would have shown his suicide was to some extent planned BY HIM!

Be assured this was NOT a hit of that you may be certain for a number of technical reasons that this is no place to consider!!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

Originally Posted by Greg Lance-Watkins

That Kenny McKaskill made absolutely the right decision when he released Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi is irrefutable and we should take no lectures based on the terms of barbarism of much of America's implementation of Laws, either domestic or International.

Hear hear Greg. I suspect the bandwidth could be used up here just listing the flagrant abuses and breaches of international law and human rights during the 20th and 21st century perpetrated by the USA.