That article about the WWF is completely scandalous, and it is surprising there has not been more publicity.
The whole system of carbon credits is like selling fresh air, but without the air, more like, "The King's new clothes".
It's a system devised to take money from industrial nations and give it to others, almost like a one world socialist state.
Hmmm, maybe that IS what is coming, and almost here. The EU is a huge part of it, and so un-democratic, it is frightening.

I will quite agree that the whole of the climate change / global warming 'debate' has been taken over by government and international bodies with their own agenda for increasing revenues by way of carbon taxes etc, and it's only natural that some high profile people will get drawn into this, perhaps unwittingly in many instances. You can hardly expect very senior figures or members of the monarchy to undertake serious research into the rights and wrongs of every subject they mention in their speeches as heads of or patrons of international associations; they have to take what their speech writers say on trust, and in turn those speech writers have to take what they're told on trust.

However I don't think the fact that anyone, royalty or not, has shares in any given company reason to be suspicious unless it's a very substantial voting block. In the case of BP in particular, it's the bottom line profits which are importance regardless of whether they're derived from oil, gas or biofuel, and as a private company it'll carry out its research in the best way it sees in order to maximise those profits.

Originally Posted by Midas

I will quite agree that the whole of the climate change / global warming 'debate' has been taken over by government and international bodies with their own agenda for increasing revenues by way of carbon taxes etc, and it's only natural that some high profile people will get drawn into this, perhaps unwittingly in many instances. You can hardly expect very senior figures or members of the monarchy to undertake serious research into the rights and wrongs of every subject they mention in their speeches as heads of or patrons of international associations; they have to take what their speech writers say on trust, and in turn those speech writers have to take what they're told on trust.

However I don't think the fact that anyone, royalty or not, has shares in any given company reason to be suspicious unless it's a very substantial voting block. In the case of BP in particular, it's the bottom line profits which are importance regardless of whether they're derived from oil, gas or biofuel, and as a private company it'll carry out its research in the best way it sees in order to maximise those profits.

In that case they would be better to keep quiet and remain neutral.

Where you and I differ in opinion Midas is that you believe there is no central organisation of this and I do , proof of central organisation actually excists. I think for you to ignore that all these organisation , the UN , NATO , BP ,the UN IPCC , ISAF , the population council , the trilateral commision , in some cases the EU , some charitys , council in foreign relations, some big banks , the bilderberg group are all the same bloody people is crazy.

Hilary clinton for example

Council on foreign relations Hillary Clinton Plans To Raise Profile With Major Speech

Bilderberg hillary clinton bilderberg - Google Search

BP and Goldman Rahm Emanuel’s BP Connection

council on foreign relations Council on Foreign Relations Address by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton - Council on Foreign Relations

UN HILLARY CLINTON'S REMARKS AT U.N. FOURTH WORLD CONFERENCE ON WOMEN

climate change and un Copenhagen climate conference: Hillary Clinton attempts to break deadlock with $100bn offer - Telegraph

Population council http://twitter.com/pop_council

Big donations from the saudis , authorizes attacks on yemen , hmmmmmmmm http://mattjohnston.blogspot.com/200...-interest.html
http://www.asiantribune.com/news/201...80%93un-report
She is a great example of a NWO puppet. Can you not accept that were this a real democratic world order , all of these organisations would need to be run by different people with no donations from big business or lobby groups. With no support from known eugenics fronts? can you not join me in hoping for a future free from corruption and duplicity?

Originally Posted by Barry

In that case they would be better to keep quiet and remain neutral.

What is the problem with the royal family investing to make money? If you don't agree with that statement then it presupposes that you are a socialist!

Without investors this country would be a non-event so we should surely support them?

Originally Posted by Barry

In that case they would be better to keep quiet and remain neutral.

In which case we'd probably end up with no-one saying anything, but then again, perhaps that might actually be a blessing!

I believe in proper capitalsim and the competition within that , not monopolism and staged events.

Originally Posted by AMGINGLES

Where you and I differ in opinion Midas is that you believe there is no central organisation of this and I do , proof of central organisation actually excists. I think for you to ignore that all these organisation , the UN , NATO , BP ,the UN IPCC , ISAF , the population council , the trilateral commision , in some cases the EU , some charitys , council in foreign relations, some big banks , the bilderberg group are all the same bloody people is crazy.

Hilary clinton for example

Council on foreign relations Hillary Clinton Plans To Raise Profile With Major Speech

Bilderberg hillary clinton bilderberg - Google Search

BP and Goldman Rahm Emanuel’s BP Connection

council on foreign relations Council on Foreign Relations Address by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton - Council on Foreign Relations

UN HILLARY CLINTON'S REMARKS AT U.N. FOURTH WORLD CONFERENCE ON WOMEN

climate change and un Copenhagen climate conference: Hillary Clinton attempts to break deadlock with $100bn offer - Telegraph

Population council Population Council (Pop_Council) on Twitter

Big donations from the saudis , authorizes attacks on yemen , hmmmmmmmm Going to the Mat: Hillary Clinton's Conflict of Interest
U.S. Un-manned drone attacks killing civilians are extra-judicial killings
She is a great example of a NWO puppet. Can you not accept that were this a real democratic world order , all of these organisations would need to be run by different people with no donations from big business or lobby groups. With no support from known eugenics fronts? can you not join me in hoping for a future free from corruption and duplicity?

I have one word to describe this... Shucks, can't say it on here...but it is a slang word for male genitals!!

What do you not understand it jim? maybe if you did you would say "goodness me, why are all these soposidly separate organistations all run by the same small group of people?" Thats a bit odd, I wonder who they ask for advice. "I have consulted the council on foreign relations, which is myself on this issue. Furthermore my friends at bilderberg and paymasters at BP are happy with it as well." Sounds balanced to me.

I propose that this thread should be moved to the conspiracy theory forum, or better still, start and Alex Jones fan club forum.

Originally Posted by DaveUK

I propose that this thread should be moved to the conspiracy theory forum......

Your wish has been granted

I can see that despite the overwhelming evidence you continue to ignore the fact that too few people are pulling too many strings, one string each please, keeps things safer.

Originally Posted by AMGINGLES

I can see that despite the overwhelming evidence you continue to ignore the fact that too few people are pulling too many strings, one string each please, keeps things safer.

Even casual scrutiny shows your so called evidence that you get from the likes of Alex Jones and David Ike to be at best manufactured.
You'll be telling us next we are ruled by shape shifting lizzards that cross over from a paralel universe. David Ike and Alex Jones should get together and start a religion, they'd make a fortune from gullible people.