Will Caroline LUCAS Feature in the Guiness Book of Records?

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

Hi,

do you think Caroline LUCAS will feature in the Guiness Book of Records?

She could be the Party leader who led her party into Westminster and out again in the shortest time in history!

Elected in on a totally dishonest mandate based on lies and deceptions (unlike the others hers were specific) and lost her seat in the October election - the shortest visit to Westminster of a Political Party on record!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

[SaveTheUK]

Assuming proportional representation is used I don't see the Greens ever losing a seat.

If the next election is FPTP or AV, I have a feeling Lucas will be out.

[Robin Edward Putland]

What do you mean: totally dishonest mandate, lies and deceptions, could you explain?

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

What do you mean: totally dishonest mandate, lies and deceptions, could you explain?

Hi,

The Watermelon Party!
Green on the outside and the closer you get to the centre the more you realise it is in fact Red, wet, sickly sweet and of no substance - eventually once at the heart they give you the pip!

The vile Greens base their campaigns on dishonest fear - such as the unsubstantiated garbage about climate warming and global change. Not a shred of sound evidence to back the lies but all too happy to ride the bandwagon!

Then do note it was this unpleasant woman who clearly stated that flying was as unpleasant a crime as sticking a knife in someone!

Which part of the lies, corruption and dishonesty of the Greens were you having problems understanding?

Regards,
Greg L-W.

[Major Sinic]

Hi,

The Watermelon Party!
Green on the outside and the closer you get to the centre the more you realise it is in fact Red, wet, sickly sweet and of no substance - eventually once at the heart they give you the pip!

The vile Greens base their campaigns on dishonest fear - such as the unsubstantiated garbage about climate warming and global change. Not a shred of sound evidence to back the lies but all too happy to ride the bandwagon!

Then do note it was this unpleasant woman who clearly stated that flying was as unpleasant a crime as sticking a knife in someone!

Which part of the lies, corruption and dishonesty of the Greens were you having problems understanding?

Regards,
Greg L-W.

I , rather like young Robin, would be interested in knowing some of the specific lies, aspects of corruption and examples of dishonesty to which you refer. Diatribes and rants, although your stock in trade, are not very specific nor very helpful.

Personally I am a sucker for an attractive woman, and Caroline Lucas is undoubtedly that!

[TheMixer]

I know what the op means about being red. When i saw there manifesto launch i couldn't believe how left wing they are.

[Streetwalker]

Personally I am a sucker for an attractive woman, and Caroline Lucas is undoubtedly that!

You should have gone to specsavers

[Major Sinic]

You should have gone to specsavers

[Major Sinic]

You should have gone to specsavers

Why would I do that? I wouldn't find nearly so many ladies attractive

[Streetwalker]

Why would I do that? I wouldn't find nearly so many ladies attractive

A good point Major,maybe I should look forward to my eyesight failing and a World full of pretty women.

[james-a-h]

You may find this article interesting:
Global Warming: A closer look at the numbers

It suggests that humans are responsible not even for a single percent of greenhouse gases.

As for Caroline Lucas entering the Guinness Book of Records... it's not a very exciting record really, is it? Don't get me wrong - I don't hate the Green Party (I was a member for a short while) but I respect them a lot less after seeing them base their entire European campaign around having a bash at the opposition, and thus reducing themselves to the same level that we find most of our political parties at.

[Midas]

You may find this article interesting:
Global Warming: A closer look at the numbers

It suggests that humans are responsible not even for a single percent of greenhouse gases.

I've seen those figures before and I do have my own doubts as to the veracity of much of the officially published material as being politically expedient, however if you or anyone else wants to take this further, I'll separate this off to start a new thread.

[Nicholas]

the green party are a complete joke. But they typify the left liberal lettuce leaf eating gestapo that are slightly to the left of Labour(not new labour). I read thier manifesto and was shocked at the level of taxation they wanted to impose. Complete farce of a party.

[Major Sinic]

the green party are a complete joke. But they typify the left liberal lettuce leaf eating gestapo that are slightly to the left of Labour(not new labour). I read thier manifesto and was shocked at the level of taxation they wanted to impose. Complete farce of a party.

Many would suggest that the BNP are a complete joke, but we should take the threat of political extremism, whether it be left or right wing, very seriously if we value the principles of freedom and tolerance.

With the exception of Plaid Cymru, the Green Party are the most left wing of any party represented in the Westminster Parliament, but they are of less immediate concern than the BNP simply because they have less electoral support, and do not have a record within their leadership of violence and corruption.

[radical change]

maybe

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

Assuming proportional representation is used I don't see the Greens ever losing a seat.
If the next election is FPTP or AV, I have a feeling Lucas will be out.

Hi,

very true The Greens could become the government if the electoral system is corrupted adequately.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

What do you mean: totally dishonest mandate, lies and deceptions, could you explain?

Hi,

totally dishonest mandate:
Have you READ their manifesto?
Do you believe that the people of Brighton had?
The Green Party is evil, dishonest and corrupt - exploiting idiots, aliens, the gullible and perverts to gain a mandate, wasn't Brighton a good place to start!

lies:
The entire Green agenda is founded on scientific hokum and a pack of lies.

deceptions:
QUOTE: 'Flying is as much of a crime as stabbing someone' Caroline Lucas in a televised interview for, as I recall, on the record - an EU based programme.

Fielded candidates (PPCs) several with Doctor quoted - but on investigation they were neither medical or scientific however they were clearly seeking to pass themselves off as knowledgeable in the field of sciences.

There are two types of Green:

01. Those who will follow any fruit loop vending snake oil.

02. The corrupt who sell the snake oil.

There is not one shred of sound evidence that mankind is having ANY material effect on global climate or planetary warming.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

I , rather like young Robin, would be interested in knowing some of the specific lies, aspects of corruption and examples of dishonesty to which you refer. Diatribes and rants, although your stock in trade, are not very specific nor very helpful.

Personally I am a sucker for an attractive woman, and Caroline Lucas is undoubtedly that!

Hi,

mea culpa - I naturally assumed people have done a certain amount of reading.

'attractive'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

Many would suggest that the BNP are a complete joke, but we should take the threat of political extremism, whether it be left or right wing, very seriously if we value the principles of freedom and tolerance.

With the exception of Plaid Cymru, the Green Party are the most left wing of any party represented in the Westminster Parliament, but they are of less immediate concern than the BNP simply because they have less electoral support, and do not have a record within their leadership of violence and corruption.

Hi,

since Westminster is nothing more than a regional council and is unable to make law without compliance to our government which makes over 80% of our laws and to which the balance must be compliant and there is virtually no meaningful democratic process any more.

There is nothing more extreme than the EU - supra national dictatorships with absolute control and over taxation are the greatest of obsecenities as they become inexorably bigger they make famine and war ever more certain.

No wonder the Green slime thrives under suck a regime and the strident little dominatrix in the green party will brook no reason and accept no logic.

The manifesto if implied would have mankind at war within a month and EUgenics would be the order of the day.

EVIL!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

[Nicholas]

Many would suggest that the BNP are a complete joke, but we should take the threat of political extremism, whether it be left or right wing, very seriously if we value the principles of freedom and tolerance.

With the exception of Plaid Cymru, the Green Party are the most left wing of any party represented in the Westminster Parliament, but they are of less immediate concern than the BNP simply because they have less electoral support, and do not have a record within their leadership of violence and corruption.

As far as the corruption charges levelled at the BNP - no more so than corrupt politicians in Westminster who were charging the tax payer for porn films to mars bars while sipping cut price champagne after flipping their second homes. And dont get started on your lost love called UKIP.

The threat of the green party is far more sinister than anything the BNP could ever come up with. if you want a party who is pretty much anti science and wants to return us to some sort of peasant agrarian based economy who hates everything from the motor car to those of us who like to like to imbibe on a few glasses of wine every week.They would suck every bit of fun and life out of britain if they ever got anywhere near power.

Back to caroline lucas - she looks like she needs a donner kebab or two washed down with a pint of stella.

[Robin Edward Putland]

Wow
So Greg you'd rather believe in a giant global conspirecy of scientists agreeing with each other and not publishing contrary results than the overwhelming independant evidence that manmade carbon and methane contribute to climate change.

The Green Party evidently do geninually believe in climate change and are therefore not decietful or dishonest.

As for their secret Redness, they've always been openly left wing so their not exactly decietful on that front either.
Their policies on dimantling multinationals and co operavtive farming etc is not supoesed to be science its politics and social phylosophy, so their not a con on that part either.
I really do wonder how you can find a group of well meaning Hippies, idealistic students & intellectuals sinister and evil.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

Wow
So Greg you'd rather believe in a giant global conspirecy of scientists agreeing with each other and not publishing contrary results

Indeed I would minded that time and again it has been proven to exists on many counts.

You will note that the overwhelming percentage of scientists prostitute themselves to Government money.

Study the entire con job that is the IPCC - where is the science in taking a pre selected refined period of time and performing an inaccurate and implausible analysis to arrive at a required solution. That is not science that is outright dishonesty.

We have had 29 identifiable ice ages on this planet and yes due to the output of our local star the temperature varies over unimaginably long periods of time - what is the relevance of the few years analysed?

than the overwhelming independant evidence that manmade carbon and methane contribute to climate change.

Utter complete and totally scientifically unsustainable warmist hokum.

The release of gases from the melting permafrost of Siberia in a week out strips mankinds output in 10 years, watch the billions of bubbles rising in Baikal alone. The bigotry of mankind to believe they out compete nature is staggering.

Even the bought and paid for scientists have shown their own results are wrong - the hockey stick graphs are how to lie with statistics and the scam was exposed by outsiders and the IPCC had to admit they were wrong. The rubbish published about Himalaian glaciers was proved to be wrong. They were forced to admit their data on the Amazon was based on an old report by a journalist without scientific foundation and we KNOW that carbon rises in the geophysical record show that the increase in carbon does not cause warming it is a result of warming.

Then we have the documentation of East Anglia leaked showing the so called scientists were colluding to preserve their false data and conclusions - howmany more sources will be leaked?

Then we have parasites like Al Gore and paschauri who are proven beyond all reasonable doubt to be liars and cheats on the make.

Even the green guru Monbiot has been telling lies and is subject to a potential court case and the paper he published in is running around trying to placate those Monbiot was telling lies about to keep the green scamers and warmists corrupt industry afloat.

The Green Party evidently do geninually believe in climate change and are therefore not decietful or dishonest.

Then they are criminally insane and criminally irresponsible because they are using a huge amount of tax payers money yet unprepared to research the foundations of their dishonest scams.

As for their secret Redness, they've always been openly left wing so their not exactly decietful on that front either.

They are NOT openly left wing they are outright fascist in their communist based desire for destructive and dishonest control.

Their policies on dimantling multinationals and co operavtive farming etc is not supoesed to be science its politics and social phylosophy, so their not a con on that part either.

They are a TOTAL con they do not have policies since by any and all standards they collapse on the most simplistic of inspection - they merely have obscene ambition and an overbearing desire to impose their fascist controls on every aspect of life in a manner which would if implemented lead to the death of many millions of people from the starvation their policies would bring about.

They have no alternate economic model that would even stand up as a virtual reality Janet and John play farm for the pre pubescent and the gullible underbelly of society on FaceBook!

I really do wonder how you can find a group of well meaning Hippies, idealistic students & intellectuals sinister and evil.

In exactly the same way that I found a group of mostly young men who were patriotic in the extreme, loved smart uniforms and formed an organisation called the Waffen SS - who were eventually found to have been manipulated into positions running labour camps for reputable companies like IG Faben and then implementing Arbeit Macht Frei at amongst other places IG Faben's employees village at Auschwitz as they implemented parts of The Final Solution from The Wanasee Conference!

These idealists under the control of malign leadership became one of the planets most evil forces ever.

I consider the dishonesty of the leadership of the greens to be nothing short of evil with their stated claim that air travel is as criminal as knifing someone, support for the utterly malign Carbon Taxes, promotion of the untested, discreditted and environmentally damaging win mill concept for power.

I see not one word of the Green stated policies as other than deliberate dishonesty for self enriching and self serving individuals who can not for a moment believe the cr@p they spout.

Did you watch the launch of their manifesto - quite clearly only one member of the team vending this snake oil had command of the spin to cover the claims which were more blatantly shot full of holes than a worn out string vest.

Even Ms. Lucal merely sounded shifty and dishonest as she was clearly unable to justify the drivel.

There is no virtue in seeking control over other peoples lives at huge expense to the tax payer based on obvious criminal deception.

I am NOT claiming the Greens are the only crooks!

It is time the entire body politic was repatriated, we withdrew from the undeniably corrupt and malevolent EU and we scrubbed our own politicians in carbolic and bleach to clean them up and those we could not clean should be sent to prison without the luxuries we can no longer afford for prisoners due to the 13 unlucky years of economic illiteracy and criminal incompetence of Labour.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

[Major Sinic]

[QUOTE=Greg Lance-Watkins;113442]Hi,

No wonder the Green slime thrives under suck a regime and the strident little dominatrix in the green party will brook no reason and accept no logic.

I still think she is 'hot' and no I still haven't been to Specsavers.

[Robin Edward Putland]

There is a problem with scientific independance but it is more likely to arise with private funding as they sack scientists who don't find the results they want. The Government subsidises every student, university and many research units, they don't conrtol everyone though as they are far to many and it would be pointless to read every submitted article to see if contradicts the govenrments. The main constraint on indepent results is academic consencus, if a paper that contradicts is put forward it get ripped apart by the research units piers.
The Anglian Email leakes showed that the research unit was not as vigorous in its methods and practises than they should have been. But it did not hide any evidence that contractics the scientific consencus on climate change. The right wing bias press used this stroy to claim that scientists were hiding contradictory views on climate change.

The Green Party are not an authoritarian dictatorship, most of there policies give more freedom and independance to the population.

Building avoidable housing and renovating old council houses will increase the house stock and allow more people to buy there own homes and be part of society.

Increasing the minium wage and financial services for the poor, will allow the poorest and most vunerable to have financial security and independance.

Nationalising transport will reduce the cost to tax payers of bailing out failing buissnesses and reduce travel cost making us more mobile.

Making the NHS fully nationalised again will stop the health difference between the poor and rich putting everyone on the same footing.

Employing more teachers breaking up big schools and reducing the national curiculum will increase the qualitiy of teaching and give the teachers the freedom to teach, allowing eveyone access to good schooling to get a the jobs they want without having to compete with rich private educated people.

The only areas they are more draconion is environmetal issiues and nationalisation of transport.

one question how are wind turbines harmful to the environment?

[fubar]

Indeed I would minded that time and again it has been proven to exists on many counts.

You will note that the overwhelming percentage of scientists prostitute themselves to Government money.

Study the entire con job that is the IPCC - where is the science in taking a pre selected refined period of time and performing an inaccurate and implausible analysis to arrive at a required solution. That is not science that is outright dishonesty.

We have had 29 identifiable ice ages on this planet and yes due to the output of our local star the temperature varies over unimaginably long periods of time - what is the relevance of the few years analysed?



Utter complete and totally scientifically unsustainable warmist hokum.

The release of gases from the melting permafrost of Siberia in a week out strips mankinds output in 10 years, watch the billions of bubbles rising in Baikal alone. The bigotry of mankind to believe they out compete nature is staggering.

Even the bought and paid for scientists have shown their own results are wrong - the hockey stick graphs are how to lie with statistics and the scam was exposed by outsiders and the IPCC had to admit they were wrong. The rubbish published about Himalaian glaciers was proved to be wrong. They were forced to admit their data on the Amazon was based on an old report by a journalist without scientific foundation and we KNOW that carbon rises in the geophysical record show that the increase in carbon does not cause warming it is a result of warming.

Then we have the documentation of East Anglia leaked showing the so called scientists were colluding to preserve their false data and conclusions - howmany more sources will be leaked?

Then we have parasites like Al Gore and paschauri who are proven beyond all reasonable doubt to be liars and cheats on the make.

Even the green guru Monbiot has been telling lies and is subject to a potential court case and the paper he published in is running around trying to placate those Monbiot was telling lies about to keep the green scamers and warmists corrupt industry afloat.



Then they are criminally insane and criminally irresponsible because they are using a huge amount of tax payers money yet unprepared to research the foundations of their dishonest scams.



They are NOT openly left wing they are outright fascist in their communist based desire for destructive and dishonest control.



They are a TOTAL con they do not have policies since by any and all standards they collapse on the most simplistic of inspection - they merely have obscene ambition and an overbearing desire to impose their fascist controls on every aspect of life in a manner which would if implemented lead to the death of many millions of people from the starvation their policies would bring about.

They have no alternate economic model that would even stand up as a virtual reality Janet and John play farm for the pre pubescent and the gullible underbelly of society on FaceBook!



In exactly the same way that I found a group of mostly young men who were patriotic in the extreme, loved smart uniforms and formed an organisation called the Waffen SS - who were eventually found to have been manipulated into positions running labour camps for reputable companies like IG Faben and then implementing Arbeit Macht Frei at amongst other places IG Faben's employees village at Auschwitz as they implemented parts of The Final Solution from The Wanasee Conference!

These idealists under the control of malign leadership became one of the planets most evil forces ever.

I consider the dishonesty of the leadership of the greens to be nothing short of evil with their stated claim that air travel is as criminal as knifing someone, support for the utterly malign Carbon Taxes, promotion of the untested, discreditted and environmentally damaging win mill concept for power.

I see not one word of the Green stated policies as other than deliberate dishonesty for self enriching and self serving individuals who can not for a moment believe the cr@p they spout.

Did you watch the launch of their manifesto - quite clearly only one member of the team vending this snake oil had command of the spin to cover the claims which were more blatantly shot full of holes than a worn out string vest.

Even Ms. Lucal merely sounded shifty and dishonest as she was clearly unable to justify the drivel.

There is no virtue in seeking control over other peoples lives at huge expense to the tax payer based on obvious criminal deception.

I am NOT claiming the Greens are the only crooks!

It is time the entire body politic was repatriated, we withdrew from the undeniably corrupt and malevolent EU and we scrubbed our own politicians in carbolic and bleach to clean them up and those we could not clean should be sent to prison without the luxuries we can no longer afford for prisoners due to the 13 unlucky years of economic illiteracy and criminal incompetence of Labour.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

well said that man nicely put Greg.

[Robin Edward Putland]

Fubar did you like the post so much you needed to read it again or was that an anser to my question?

[fubar]

Fubar did you like the post so much you needed to read it again or was that an anser to my question?

what question was that robin i was referring to Greg's reply and congratulating him in fact. yes i did like the post,

[srb7677]

Hi,

do you think Caroline LUCAS will feature in the Guiness Book of Records?

She could be the Party leader who led her party into Westminster and out again in the shortest time in history!

Actually,I personally think that with the Liberal Democrats engaged in protracted political suicide,Caroline Lucas has an excellent chance of being re-elected and I wish her well.The big three political parties have badly let us down,so we could do with a few more alternative voices in Parliament.I don`t live in her constituency,but if I did I would definately vote for her.

[Nicholas]

I don`t live in her constituency,but if I did I would definately vote for her.

Why would you want to do something like that?

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

I don`t live in her constituency,but if I did I would definately vote for her.

Hi,

why would you vote for somethingh as dishonest and damaging as The Green party with its fascist concepts of imposing the idiocy of its unsustainable fantasies upon the innocent electorate for the gain of the party and the claque that profits by it?

Perhaps you could supply details of a single solitary sound policy that would overcome the damage that the primary planks of their claimed beliefs would cause.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

[srb7677]

Hi,

why would you vote for somethingh as dishonest and damaging as The Green party with its fascist concepts of imposing the idiocy of its unsustainable fantasies upon the innocent electorate for the gain of the party and the claque that profits by it?

Perhaps you could supply details of a single solitary sound policy that would overcome the damage that the primary planks of their claimed beliefs would cause.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

I can name many good green policies.

1.A massive expansion in council house building.
2.Rent caps for private rents.
3.Better security of tenure for private tenants.
4.More affordable homes to buy being built.
5.Abolishing the council tax and replacing with a local income tax.
6.Introducing a living wage of at least £8.10 an hour.
7.Abolishing tuition fees.
8.Larger subsidies to make public transport cheaper.

And many more.Rightwingers out there will no doubt react with horror to much of this,but to those of us on the left who truly believe in a better deal for ordinary people,it is an attractive program.

[srb7677]

Why would you want to do something like that?

For one thing,it makes much more sense than voting BNP,as you`re probably intending.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

I can name many good green policies.

1.A massive expansion in council house building.
2.Rent caps for private rents.
3.Better security of tenure for private tenants.
4.More affordable homes to buy being built.
5.Abolishing the council tax and replacing with a local income tax.
6.Introducing a living wage of at least £8.10 an hour.
7.Abolishing tuition fees.
8.Larger subsidies to make public transport cheaper.

And many more.Rightwingers out there will no doubt react with horror to much of this,but to those of us on the left who truly believe in a better deal for ordinary people,it is an attractive program.

Hi,

I do not react with horror at any of your Christmas wish list but like any such list it is banal, ridiculous, unworkable and completely unsustainable financially.

Interestingly a policy/wish list without aim or financing!
Lets look at the detail:

1. Where? in the flood plane or would the greens tear up the Green Belt? How would they buy the land or would they institute Government theft of private property?

2. So private renters would sell out of maintenance first and property second - they have had huge problems as it is with Labour's C40% devaluation by stealth - Brown's bank crash and lack of cash for developement - kiss goodbye to the private sector for rentals unless of course you favour big banks becoming landlords to enhance their bonuses!

3. Underwritten by whom? Be minded no landlord can function without his rent and the wish list will guarantee escalation in unemployment due to sector collapses.

4. see 1. above!

5. Kinda moving the deck chairs on the Titanic! Without halving Council flunkeys the system WILL collapse - unless you want Green Communism & THEN collapse.

6. For both the people with work? How can you cirb the cost of governance if you put 40+% of the population in non productive jobs on unpayable wages.

7. Agreed and shut 50% of the colleges that were set up as a QUANGO for the semie literate to be kept out of dole queues when they left school by sending them to get non qualifications - Meeja Studies, IT, Camera Skills.
1/2 a chance there will be a degree course on how to win Big Brother no doubt in memory of Jade Goody!

8. Won't work it will just turn into a scam. Public Transport does NOT work as we all have different needs. Works well in an ant colony!

This is not a Right or Left wing copncept - the wings fell off the political bird long ago - It is not capable or competent to fly as it has proved.

As for the fascist nature of The Greens they are vile - not a joined up dot in their whole irresponsible dictatorship.

The Watermelon Party!
Green on the outside, increasingly red on the inside, a sickly sweet wet fiberless flesh and the closer you get to the center the more you get the pip!

What do you think of CLICK HERE as a starter concept since clearly we face grim times that will make the General Strike and the soup kitchens of the depression look like a picnic.

People are starting to wake up but some reading this will watch their children die of hunger, some will die in their homes without fuel frozen to death whilst fools like the Greens will still bleat about wind power which as a point of interest is currently producing, out of the total installed metered capacity of 2,430MW, 44MW or 0.1percent!
The Green's fantasies about wind producing our power even taking up the slack are totally daft.
Actually, the Green's energy policy is totally barking mad.

Not one shred of Green policy makes any senhse whatsoever and none of it is in any way rationally costed.

Interestingly if you have read their policy documents etc. it seems as if ONLY Caroline Lucas is capable of understanding them in the Green Party - hardly surprising I guess, can anyone name 2 other current Green party figures of any stature?

A vote for the greens is clearly an admission of stupidity they are NOT viable and don't do common sense!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

[Nicholas]

For one thing,it makes much more sense than voting BNP,as you`re probably intending.

many of the policies you just quoted are already BNP policies and have been for a number of years. One question though, how would the green party actually pay for any of these policies?

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

many of the policies you just quoted are already BNP policies and have been for a number of years. One question though, how would the green party actually pay for any of these policies?

Hi,

why are we not surprised that The BNP has a wish list of populist policies that make little sense, as I have shown with the fascist Green Twits.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

[srb7677]

many of the policies you just quoted are already BNP policies and have been for a number of years. One question though, how would the green party actually pay for any of these policies?

And the following answer also addresses you,Greg Lance-Watkins,as well as our BNP friend Nicholas.The greens do have proposals on how to fund some of their policies.They propose to pay for public transport subsidies by increasing fuel duties on petrol,for example.And they cannot be accused of populism with this,because I can almost hear the whingeing of motorists already.They also propose new taxes on land and upon second homes to pay for council house building,as well as allowing councils to borrow against future additional rental income to finance building.They also propose to close as many of the loopholes exploited by higher earners as possible,to claw back much of the tens of billions being lost through avoidance and evasion,as well as taxes on financial transactions.

You may not approve of much of this and may choose to pick holes in it,as is your right.But their program is broadly costed as far as I can see.It is worth bearing in mind that the Greens are a small party with little financial backing.It is therefore not going to be easy for them to come up with exceptionally detailed proposals,but that would come if the party grew larger.It is also worth bearing in mind that a vote for Caroline Lucas is never going to amount to a vote for a Green government,but pretty much probably just a vote for a truly independent voice in parliament.The most that the Greens can ever aspire to is a handful of MPs and participation in a coalition,so any of their more unworkable policies will never get the green light anyway.Yet the principles behind many of them are well worth aspiring to.

[Nicholas]

Hi,

why are we not surprised that The BNP has a wish list of populist policies that make little sense, as I have shown with the fascist Green Twits.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

And what is wrong with populist policies? Dont we live in a democracy where the will of the people count for something?

[Nicholas]

And the following answer also addresses you,Greg Lance-Watkins,as well as our BNP friend Nicholas.The greens do have proposals on how to fund some of their policies.They propose to pay for public transport subsidies by increasing fuel duties on petrol,for example.And they cannot be accused of populism with this,because I can almost hear the whingeing of motorists already.They also propose new taxes on land and upon second homes to pay for council house building,as well as allowing councils to borrow against future additional rental income to finance building.They also propose to close as many of the loopholes exploited by higher earners as possible,to claw back much of the tens of billions being lost through avoidance and evasion,as well as taxes on financial transactions.

You may not approve of much of this and may choose to pick holes in it,as is your right.But their program is broadly costed as far as I can see.It is worth bearing in mind that the Greens are a small party with little financial backing.It is therefore not going to be easy for them to come up with exceptionally detailed proposals,but that would come if the party grew larger.It is also worth bearing in mind that a vote for Caroline Lucas is never going to amount to a vote for a Green government,but pretty much probably just a vote for a truly independent voice in parliament.The most that the Greens can ever aspire to is a handful of MPs and participation in a coalition,so any of their more unworkable policies will never get the green light anyway.Yet the principles behind many of them are well worth aspiring to.

You forget to mention that the greens propose a 112bn quids worth of tax increases to fund their spending spree.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

And what is wrong with populist policies? Dont we live in a democracy where the will of the people count for something?

Hi,

hopefully we live in a CIVILISED democracy where only a tiny percentace of nutters would vote for the vile concepts of the utterly reprehensible BNP.

The Greens are fair to average disgusting in their Communist style desire for control at every opportunity and the idiocy of some of their so called Green policies which would leave 10s of 1,000s to die due to failure to think through just how batty The Caroline Lucas Party is.

By the way has anyone heard of any other Greens - wasn't that odious snake oil salesman and con merchant David Icke a Green leader at one time? Is the reprehensible liar still a part of the scam?

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

And the following answer also addresses you,Greg Lance-Watkins,as well as our BNP friend Nicholas.The greens do have proposals on how to fund some of their policies.They propose to pay for public transport subsidies by increasing fuel duties on petrol,for example.And they cannot be accused of populism with this,because I can almost hear the whingeing of motorists already.They also propose new taxes on land and upon second homes to pay for council house building,as well as allowing councils to borrow against future additional rental income to finance building.They also propose to close as many of the loopholes exploited by higher earners as possible,to claw back much of the tens of billions being lost through avoidance and evasion,as well as taxes on financial transactions.

You may not approve of much of this and may choose to pick holes in it,as is your right.But their program is broadly costed as far as I can see.It is worth bearing in mind that the Greens are a small party with little financial backing.It is therefore not going to be easy for them to come up with exceptionally detailed proposals,but that would come if the party grew larger.It is also worth bearing in mind that a vote for Caroline Lucas is never going to amount to a vote for a Green government,but pretty much probably just a vote for a truly independent voice in parliament.The most that the Greens can ever aspire to is a handful of MPs and participation in a coalition,so any of their more unworkable policies will never get the green light anyway.Yet the principles behind many of them are well worth aspiring to.

Hi,

I approve of NOTHING these fools say.

Imagine a tax increase on fuel to subsidise public transport - what idiot dreamed that us so that the poor would starve due to the inevitable huge rise in food prices and essentials as thehaulage costs went through the roof!

Don't forget it was the near certifiable imbecile Caroline Lucas who likened air travel to stabbing a stranger with a knife!

Caroline Lucas is so stupid she believes there is a factual base to the belief that global warming is anthropomorfic!

During the election I phoned every Green candidate I could claim to have a Doctorate but could not find one with a Doctorate in a subject relative to ANY of their policies.

Did you watch just what spectacular fools they made of themselves at their press release of their manifesto - it would have been funny if it wasn't so sick!
No one could answer any of the questions - they made Lord Pearson look like a genius! Eventually Lucas had to take over and cobble together answers for each item.

Not only did they clearly not understand their own manifesto but it did look as if none of them had read it - probably drawn up by some gay little meeting of the printers children the night before!

They are a ONE MAN BAND and she is a joke!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

Wow
So Greg you'd rather believe in a giant global conspirecy of scientists agreeing with each other and not publishing contrary results than the overwhelming independant evidence that manmade carbon and methane contribute to climate change.

The Green Party evidently do geninually believe in climate change and are therefore not decietful or dishonest.

As for their secret Redness, they've always been openly left wing so their not exactly decietful on that front either.
Their policies on dimantling multinationals and co operavtive farming etc is not supoesed to be science its politics and social phylosophy, so their not a con on that part either.
I really do wonder how you can find a group of well meaning Hippies, idealistic students & intellectuals sinister and evil.

Hi,

so you claim their merit is their honest gullibility and their childish naiivite!

Ask the people PolPot led or who marched against ChungKaiChek (sp) just how dangerous an army of idiots can be!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.