Personal problems with immigrants?

[Midas]

I've noticed that on a number of other public forums there's a regular stream of posts from people complaining that they have immigrant neighbours (often unspecified) who cause problems with things like noise, unruly children, smells, rubbish and so on.

I suspect that part of this is racial, somehow ignoring the fact that many indigenous British families can be just as bad, if not worse; part of it is to do with exactly where people live, inner city areas are far more likely to suffer from this problem regardless of who causes it, and I also suspect that part of it is the attention-seeking 'me too' syndrome.

I'd be interested to know whether people here have had/got any similar problems or not and if so, what they ascribe them to. Is it a real problem or simply an objection to immigrants, period?

This is a bit of a new issue as far as I'm concerned; I've always lived in either a suburban or semi-rural environment and work-related issues apart, where immigrant workers are often slightly better than British ones (much as I hate to admit it!), my everyday contact with immigrant families has been limited and even then mainly with professionals. Round here we've probably got less than 100 in a town of about 12,000, and in the village where my cottage is, there are none at all. Much less than bare statistics would suggest, but given the preponderance of immigrants in large towns and cities, not really surprising.

[Opinionated]

This is a bit of a new issue as far as I'm concerned; I've always lived in either a suburban or semi-rural environment and work-related issues apart, where immigrant workers are often slightly better than British ones (much as I hate to admit it!), my everyday contact with immigrant families has been limited and even then mainly with professionals. Round here we've probably got less than 100 in a town of about 12,000, and in the village where my cottage is, there are none at all. Much less than bare statistics would suggest, but given the preponderance of immigrants in large towns and cities, not really surprising.

I live in a town where the mean average age is 58 and as you can imagine there is not a huge minority community (largely because the elderly are largely looked after within the family amongst most minority communities), but I have to say I think the Daily Mail/Express sensationalism of Britain will literally sink with the weight of immigrants is alarmist fabrication, certainly if the average person looks out of their window they'll not find a queue of immigrants or assylum seekers. That said there is a new couple just moved in over the road and one is Australian and the other from Canada (send them all home I say!).

[The voice of reason]

I think what people are expressing and truly don't express themselves properly is the fact that if you're born in this country, you have the right to do as you please, but if not, then our home grown citizens expect a higher standard from immigrants. when that standard isn't met it is easy to be racist without looking at all the facts.

I lived with neighbours who are british citizens who truly believed that tax payers like myself should fund their income for life without them having to find a job, yet there are also asylum seekers who have the same attitude...neither deserve anything they get.

Yes, i guess it does stick in the throat that not only is our government happily taxing us to death to support our own scroungers, we have to let other ones come in and make our tax burden greater.

Not that i want to sound like "BNP Needs you" but why should we throw open the door to every begging bowl that see's our country as one giant cash cow and toilet.

They take our money then dump on us from a great height.....

both sides of the coin are wrong, but to do it to your own country is bad enough, to crap in someone elses country is even worse....

[Albion 69]

Just because we do not see lines of Immigrants in our particular neighbourhood does not mean mass immigration is a myth . The Stats do not lie, visit areas in certain towns and cities in the UK and you would be forgiven for thinking you were in the wrong country .The projected population growth fuelled by this immigration is completely unsustainable. This policy was deliberate , ill thought through and bound to cause tensions and strains for our infrastructure and society in general. If we don't rectify this problem the consequences will be inevitable , ignoring it will play into the hands of the BNP .The pdf document in the first link (preface below) is the bare minimum requirement for reversing this trend.

"For centuries the British Isles have been a destination for immigrants, and a source of
emigrants. This flow of people has contributed to one of the strongest societies and
most dynamic economies in the world. Peel back the history of any aspect of life in
Britain today – our language, laws, political system, the Monarchy, religion – and you
will find the influence of immigrants down the years. Likewise, Britons have
emigrated across the world, taking with them their skills and our customs, traditions
and, of course, our language.
So the benefits of migration are not in doubt. Our country – just like any other – would
be much the poorer but for the contribution that immigrants have made here, and that
Britons have made overseas.
Our concern is not the principle of immigration, but its scale. In recent years we have
seen an entirely new phenomenon: very large scale immigration, the impact of which
has become a matter of increasing public concern. Official figures show that, over the
last ten years, nearly 2.5 million immigrants have arrived and almost three quarters of
a million British people have left, thus adding 1.6 million directly to our population.
This rate of arrival is 25 times higher than during any previous influx of immigration
in nearly a thousand years of our nation’s history.
This situation is not mainly due to the recent influx of East Europeans from new EU
member states. Leaving aside the movement of British citizens, two thirds of
immigrants in 2006 were from outside the EU1. Nor is this influx due to globalisation.
It is largely the result of government policies dating back more than a decade."

http://www.migrationwatchuk.com/balancedmigration.pdf

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[LA]

There is only one problem I have with most immigrants.I cannot understand there bloody accent! It drives me nuts. One of my neighbours is an immigrant and I had a chat with her. In the end I had to apologise and tell her I could not understand her accent.
Now time to take the Daily Mail view on immigrants...

Britain has many problems with immigrants.
Firstly, there are just too many. 1 in 10 people; approximately, in Britain are not British but are immigrants. In my opinion 1 in 10 is too high.
Secondly, I believe the biggest problem is what kinds of foreigners are welcome. Only those will a lot of qualifications that we require; have wealth, or a trade should be welcome, all others should not be.
Thirdly, all foreigners admitted to Britain MUST speak English. The biggest annoyance with me is when people go to reside in another country but do not, or refuse to learn the language.

[Marxist Nutter]

There is only one problem I have with most immigrants.I cannot understand there bloody accent! It drives me nuts. One of my neighbours is an immigrant and I had a chat with her. In the end I had to apologise and tell her I could not understand her accent.
Now time to take the Daily Mail view on immigrants...

Britain has many problems with immigrants.
Firstly, there are just too many. 1 in 10 people; approximately, in Britain are not British but are immigrants. In my opinion 1 in 10 is too high.
Secondly, I believe the biggest problem is what kinds of foreigners are welcome. Only those will a lot of qualifications that we require; have wealth, or a trade should be welcome, all others should not be.
Thirdly, all foreigners admitted to Britain MUST speak English. The biggest annoyance with me is when people go to reside in another country but do not, or refuse to learn the language.

Back when I worked in a meat factory, I was the only English person who worked on the factory floor (apart from supervisors). It was a horrible and disgusting job and there did not seem much enthusiasm from local brits to do it. I only did it in order to be able to feed myself. Now if you only let in highly qualified immigrants then who is gonna work in the factories. Not you LA, of that I can be fairly sure!

[LA]

Back when I worked in a meat factory, I was the only English person who worked on the factory floor (apart from supervisors). It was a horrible and disgusting job and there did not seem much enthusiasm from local brits to do it. I only did it in order to be able to feed myself. Now if you only let in highly qualified immigrants then who is gonna work in the factories. Not you LA, of that I can be fairly sure!

YOu are damn right I am not.

There are plenty of British people to do these jobs.

At the very least, in the areas of the country with the least people to jobs ratio, there is 1.8 people to one job.

There are more people on jobs seekers allowance than there are jobs. There are plenty of British people, we do not need immigrants.

[CAGAN]

One of my favourite subjects. I believe in controlled immigration. That is to say anyone who can put into our society and support themselves if necessary is welcome as long as the job they are doing isn't depriving a British citizen of work.

As far as asylum is concerned, I am prepared to accept asylum seekers as long as we are the closest border to their home country.

Last but not least, any individual moving to this country MUST adopt our culture and speak our language.

[CAGAN]

YOu are damn right I am not.

There are plenty of British people to do these jobs.

At the very least, in the areas of the country with the least people to jobs ratio, there is 1.8 people to one job.

There are more people on jobs seekers allowance than there are jobs. There are plenty of British people, we do not need immigrants.

Whilst I agree with you in principal it's not quite that simple. Yes there are as many vacant jobs as there are people, however the skills of the people in question don't necessarily meet the demands of the jobs. Regretfully most employers are reluctant to spend time developing new employees so these jobs stay vacant to long. Another point to take into account is that Britain is a big place and the jobs aren't necessarily were the people are.

If the point you are trying to make is that areas with both unskilled vacancies and unemployed people should not exist, I totally agree.

[DougieG]

There is only one problem I have with most immigrants.I cannot understand there bloody accent! It drives me nuts. One of my neighbours is an immigrant and I had a chat with her. In the end I had to apologise and tell her I could not understand her accent.
Now time to take the Daily Mail view on immigrants...

Britain has many problems with immigrants.
Firstly, there are just too many. 1 in 10 people; approximately, in Britain are not British but are immigrants. In my opinion 1 in 10 is too high.
Secondly, I believe the biggest problem is what kinds of foreigners are welcome. Only those will a lot of qualifications that we require; have wealth, or a trade should be welcome, all others should not be.
Thirdly, all foreigners admitted to Britain MUST speak English. The biggest annoyance with me is when people go to reside in another country but do not, or refuse to learn the language.

Your statistic is incorrect there, too. 1 in 10 people in the UK are of ethnic minorities, but that includes people who, for instance may be black and the descendants of slaves living in Britain, or whose families have been here for three or four generations. If you call these people immigrants, then the majority of people could be classed as such.

[Hestia]

There is only one problem I have with most immigrants.I cannot understand there bloody accent! It drives me nuts. One of my neighbours is an immigrant and I had a chat with her. In the end I had to apologise and tell her I could not understand her accent.
Now time to take the Daily Mail view on immigrants...

Their accent? Good reason man! Your accent is as annoying as theirs I assure you, I never seem to be able to enjoy a British sitcom or movie! It's somewhat classier and more sophisticated than the American accent but all the extra stressing on letters makes it very difficult to understand, I usually just laugh and nod when speaking to any British relative of mine, and then I repeat the only sentence I've perfected in your accent: Wouldjou like a cuppa tea? Works like a charm, each time! Brits never turn down a similar offer.

Waaaay off toppic, sorry Midas!

[LA]

Their accent? Good reason man! Your accent is as annoying as theirs I assure you, I never seem to be able to enjoy a British sitcom or movie! It's somewhat classier and more sophisticated than the American accent but all the extra stressing on letters makes it very difficult to understand, I usually just laugh and nod when speaking to any British relative of mine, and then I repeat the only sentence I've perfected in your accent: Wouldjou like a cuppa tea? Works like a charm, each time! Brits never turn down a similar offer.

Waaaay off toppic, sorry Midas!

I didn't say I find accents annoying, I said I cannot understand them.
Also, it is worth noting, a fair few English people in the south develop a BBC accent, which simply means, lacking accent.


Though I have not heard the words Wouldjou like a cuppa tea, I will not deny, the British (English) do not turn down a cuppa tea.

[Midas]

Waaaay off toppic, sorry Midas!

No need to apologise to me! Keep on stirring (the tea of course), it makes for a better discussion

Though I have not heard the words Wouldjou like a cuppa tea, I will not deny, the British (English) do not turn down a cuppa tea.

You've seriously never heard that, usually followed by the word "biscuit?" said with a rising inflection?

[LA]

You've seriously never heard that, usually followed by the word "biscuit?" said with a rising inflection?

I have heard "Would you like a cuppa tea", but I am not familiar with Wouldjou

It is usually followed by Rich Tea Biscuit

[Hestia]

I didn't say I find accents annoying, I said I cannot understand them.
Also, it is worth noting, a fair few English people in the south develop a BBC accent, which simply means, lacking accent.


Though I have not heard the words Wouldjou like a cuppa tea, I will not deny, the British (English) do not turn down a cuppa tea.

I know, I tried to spell it like you all pronnounce it.

[Trouble43]

Their accent? Good reason man! Your accent is as annoying as theirs I assure you, I never seem to be able to enjoy a British sitcom or movie! It's somewhat classier and more sophisticated than the American accent but all the extra stressing on letters makes it very difficult to understand, I usually just laugh and nod when speaking to any British relative of mine, and then I repeat the only sentence I've perfected in your accent: Wouldjou like a cuppa tea? Works like a charm, each time! Brits never turn down a similar offer.

Waaaay off toppic, sorry Midas!

Did you know that the US has subtitles for 'Eastenders'? I laughed when I read that.