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Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

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    Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    British people will be allowed to leap immigrants in the queue for council houses under changes planned by the Government.

    Thousands of Eastern European citizens are given council houses every year, leapfrogging millions of Britons who languish on waiting lists.

    Some 4,000 homes were allocated to applicants from new members of the European Union such as Lithuania and Poland last year.

    Thousands more go to other European migrants and others non-British citizens, even though 1.8million are on the waiting list and the average wait is more than six years.

    Allocation is currently entirely 'needs based' but under changes planned by the Coalition, councils will be free to acknowledge ‘local connections’ in their policies.

    Housing minister Grant Shapps said: ‘It causes a great deal of concern and is very problematic for social cohesion when people find they aren’t provided with any preference when they are actually in the area they have lived in for a very long time.

    ‘People who have made contributions to the system deserve to benefit from the system.’

    Councils will consider 'the desire of local people' when they are deciding housing policy, he added.

    'We plan to provide more flexibility to local authorities to judge the proper criteria for the waiting list. Apart from a limited number of prescribed cases - homelessness, for example - there should be the flexibility to write your own housing allocation criteria.'

    The change will mean councils can consider different factors - such as how long a family has lived in the area - when allocating houses.

    But they will still have to give priority housing to the homeless, people with families and other needy groups.

    The full story available from : Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses | Mail Online

    About time the British got some priority too!!
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    I seen this today, what's more shocking is that there are 1.8 million people on the waiting list for houses!

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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by Midas View Post
    British people will be allowed to leap immigrants in the queue for council houses under changes planned by the Government.

    Thousands of Eastern European citizens are given council houses every year, leapfrogging millions of Britons who languish on waiting lists.

    Some 4,000 homes were allocated to applicants from new members of the European Union such as Lithuania and Poland last year.

    Thousands more go to other European migrants and others non-British citizens, even though 1.8million are on the waiting list and the average wait is more than six years.

    Allocation is currently entirely 'needs based' but under changes planned by the Coalition, councils will be free to acknowledge ‘local connections’ in their policies.

    Housing minister Grant Shapps said: ‘It causes a great deal of concern and is very problematic for social cohesion when people find they aren’t provided with any preference when they are actually in the area they have lived in for a very long time.

    ‘People who have made contributions to the system deserve to benefit from the system.’

    Councils will consider 'the desire of local people' when they are deciding housing policy, he added.

    'We plan to provide more flexibility to local authorities to judge the proper criteria for the waiting list. Apart from a limited number of prescribed cases - homelessness, for example - there should be the flexibility to write your own housing allocation criteria.'

    The change will mean councils can consider different factors - such as how long a family has lived in the area - when allocating houses.

    But they will still have to give priority housing to the homeless, people with families and other needy groups.

    The full story available from : Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses | Mail Online

    About time the British got some priority too!!
    I know it is early days with the Liberal Conservative Coalition and that consensus is never easy to achieve, but I am beginning to feel that politically the curtains have been drawn back in the Palace of Westminster, the windows opened, Alice in Labour's Wonderland has fled, and commonsense and greater justice are beginning to flow in.

    I am fully in favour of this type of policy. We may currently have little choice about accepting immigrants from the EU, particularly Eastern Europe, but at least if we have a government which ensures that we are no longer a soft touch, a proportion at least will think twice about coming here.

    It is only fair that local British families receive subsidised housing paid for by the long suffering British taxpayer, before those from other countries who do not form part of our society.

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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by crazylilting View Post
    I seen this today, what's more shocking is that there are 1.8 million people on the waiting list for houses!
    I do suspect that a very substantial number have no real need of subsidised council housing, but see it as part of our 'something for nothing' society. All subsidised housing should be means tested, although preference should as a matter of policy go to British citizens in need.
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by Midas View Post
    British people will be allowed to leap immigrants in the queue for council houses under changes planned by the Government.

    Thousands of Eastern European citizens are given council houses every year, leapfrogging millions of Britons who languish on waiting lists.

    Some 4,000 homes were allocated to applicants from new members of the European Union such as Lithuania and Poland last year.

    Thousands more go to other European migrants and others non-British citizens, even though 1.8million are on the waiting list and the average wait is more than six years.

    Allocation is currently entirely 'needs based' but under changes planned by the Coalition, councils will be free to acknowledge ‘local connections’ in their policies.

    Housing minister Grant Shapps said: ‘It causes a great deal of concern and is very problematic for social cohesion when people find they aren’t provided with any preference when they are actually in the area they have lived in for a very long time.

    ‘People who have made contributions to the system deserve to benefit from the system.’

    Councils will consider 'the desire of local people' when they are deciding housing policy, he added.

    'We plan to provide more flexibility to local authorities to judge the proper criteria for the waiting list. Apart from a limited number of prescribed cases - homelessness, for example - there should be the flexibility to write your own housing allocation criteria.'

    The change will mean councils can consider different factors - such as how long a family has lived in the area - when allocating houses.

    But they will still have to give priority housing to the homeless, people with families and other needy groups.

    The full story available from : Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses | Mail Online

    About time the British got some priority too!!
    It's crazy mate, please come and see ireland and see how it's done, the non-eu has been eliminated and if one even manage to get one, the problem they face, the council will even dictate who enters the house who does not, and to crown it all, the blacks is often been threatened with eviction, from God knows where they get there complaint from, and at the end of the day, what is council house ?

    Where is the book of evidence pay as you go ?
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by Midas View Post
    British people will be allowed to leap immigrants in the queue for council houses under changes planned by the Government.

    Thousands of Eastern European citizens are given council houses every year, leapfrogging millions of Britons who languish on waiting lists.

    Some 4,000 homes were allocated to applicants from new members of the European Union such as Lithuania and Poland last year.

    Thousands more go to other European migrants and others non-British citizens, even though 1.8million are on the waiting list and the average wait is more than six years.

    Allocation is currently entirely 'needs based' but under changes planned by the Coalition, councils will be free to acknowledge ‘local connections’ in their policies.

    Housing minister Grant Shapps said: ‘It causes a great deal of concern and is very problematic for social cohesion when people find they aren’t provided with any preference when they are actually in the area they have lived in for a very long time.

    ‘People who have made contributions to the system deserve to benefit from the system.’

    Councils will consider 'the desire of local people' when they are deciding housing policy, he added.

    'We plan to provide more flexibility to local authorities to judge the proper criteria for the waiting list. Apart from a limited number of prescribed cases - homelessness, for example - there should be the flexibility to write your own housing allocation criteria.'

    The change will mean councils can consider different factors - such as how long a family has lived in the area - when allocating houses.

    But they will still have to give priority housing to the homeless, people with families and other needy groups.

    The full story available from : Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses | Mail Online

    About time the British got some priority too!!
    About time too! What took the coalition so long?

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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    The present system of ''you dont like it you leave our country'' in ireland after the european union struck down their right of who stay who remain of L & O case of the supreme court of ireland, they inject another zionist system of one blacks per council estates but no limitation of e.u citizens per estate, and the blacks that are offered the almighty council houses is that, the non-eu are not entitled to pay their rent with house benefit while irish has that right, can you imagine ?
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by angelcountry View Post
    The present system of ''you dont like it you leave our country'' in ireland after the european union struck down their right of who stay who remain of L & O case of the supreme court of ireland, they inject another zionist system of one blacks per council estates but no limitation of e.u citizens per estate, and the blacks that are offered the almighty council houses is that, the non-eu are not entitled to pay their rent with house benefit while irish has that right, can you imagine ?
    Discrimination or rationing using colour as a basis for providing housing is completely unfair given that any other requirements are satisfied, however I'm in total agreement with the government's stance of "if you don't like it, you can leave", enforced where necessary! I just wish it could apply to many EU immigrants too, regardless of whether they're applying for council housing or not.
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by Midas View Post
    Discrimination or rationing using colour as a basis for providing housing is completely unfair given that any other requirements are satisfied, however I'm in total agreement with the government's stance of "if you don't like it, you can leave", enforced where necessary! I just wish it could apply to many EU immigrants too, regardless of whether they're applying for council housing or not.
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    I think it depend's on the aspect of our daily life that you're actually talking about, that says 'You dont like it, you leave our country''.
    Cozz you could not ignite inferances of your own contrary to the statute or law, and you want to use excessive force to imbibe it with immigrant, i mean, it has no way atall anytime you try it.
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    mmmmm how is this legal?

    But they will still have to give priority housing to the homeless, people with families and other needy groups
    Oh, so a family of roma gypsies or somalian asylum seekers with seven kids will still jump the queue? And arent most people who arrive on these shores from eastern Europe in particular, homeless? This is just more nonsense from the conservatives. People should be very wary of the conservatives as a pro British party. They are nothing of the sort.
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Isn't one aspect of this issue that we are in the E.U? If we are all global citizens and entitled to the same opportunities then there should be no queue jumping unless points are accumulated to justify it. I once looked into moving within the EU - not all countries are so open as Britiain, so I say start with making all things equal.
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas View Post
    Oh, so a family of roma gypsies or somalian asylum seekers with seven kids will still jump the queue? And arent most people who arrive on these shores from eastern Europe in particular, homeless? This is just more nonsense from the conservatives. People should be very wary of the conservatives as a pro British party. They are nothing of the sort.
    I suppose it depends on the definition of homeless and whether there is accommodation that immigrants can go to if they so choose. But quite frankly I don't see why anyone who chooses to go and live in another country, refugee, asylum seeker or not, should automatically expect to be housed or fed.
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    More Xenophobia coming out of UK.

    If someone needs social housing it should be based only on need. With Xenophobia so rife among the British population, I can see why so many people travel long distances to get out of the UK.
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi 1691 View Post
    More Xenophobia coming out of UK.

    If someone needs social housing it should be based only on need. With Xenophobia so rife among the British population, I can see why so many people travel long distances to get out of the UK.
    It is not the place of any country, Britain or another, to feed and house those from another country out of public pockets.
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by DC View Post
    It is not the place of any country, Britain or another, to feed and house those from another country out of public pockets.
    Agreed. It is not Xenophobic to look after your own. For a start if the immigrants "need" social housing they shouldn't be here in the first place.

    I was down Brighton yesterday ,about time they rounded up all the EU beggars and shipped them home me thinks!
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi 1691 View Post
    More Xenophobia coming out of UK.

    If someone needs social housing it should be based only on need. With Xenophobia so rife among the British population, I can see why so many people travel long distances to get out of the UK.
    If so many people are leaving how is it that our population is rising not falling? I guess it must be that our nation is more attractive than not.
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by Streetwalker View Post
    Agreed. It is not Xenophobic to look after your own. For a start if the immigrants "need" social housing they shouldn't be here in the first place.

    I was down Brighton yesterday ,about time they rounded up all the EU beggars and shipped them home me thinks!
    Also totally agreed with. I can't see any xenophobia in putting the citizens of one's own country first regardless of whether it's for jobs or housing. Other people don't have to come here, so unless they bring either very specialised skills which aren't readily available locally or there are significant economic/investment reasons for allowing them in, those who do come here to live shouldn't expect to have any preferential treatment whatsoever. They should only earn those rights by working hard, keeping their noses clean and integrating into the community over a several year period.
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by ryoden View Post
    If so many people are leaving how is it that our population is rising not falling? I guess it must be that our nation is more attractive than not.
    In plain terms, the indigenous whites are leaving - being replaced by afro-carribeans, Muslims, east europeans and all the waifs and strays of the world; the UK is very attractive to them.

    The result - a lot of talent going out of the country, not so much replacing that talent, coming in. What we need is more of our own expertise being encouraged to stay. True, we are recruiting doctors dentists and other profesions from overseas, but the quality from the third world may be not what UK patients have a right to demand of their services. To say nothing of our business brains, the arts, science, enginering and all the things that have shaped Britain over the last thousand years; I too, would be leaving these shores if I had a degree, or a trade, and was twenty years younger - I don"t blame our gifted youngsters in the slightest.

    These people that are replacing them are in a lot of cases a liability, not assest. How many times have you called your bank, credit card company or other business calls - AND THE PERSON ON THE OTHER END CAN"T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU"RE SAYING TO THEM? And I am refering to UK call centers, not call centers in Bombay, or whereever. I have complained about this on a number of occasions, but you just get labaled a bigot. And do we need people from overseas doing these kinds of jobs? I am sure with millions of English unemployed, locals could be found to fill these positions, and you could actualy understand what they saying to you. If they refuse, stop their benefit!

    There"s no mystery, our own people are moving out, and all the waifs and strays of the world are moving in to fill these jobs - god help us! I think that explains a lot of the mistakes we get now - everything from a surgeon amputating the wrong leg, to a mix up over a hair appointment.

    Britain is probably the only country in the world were this happens - we are probably the worlds biggest idiots. The USA and Australia want Brain surgeons and our elite - we get the dregs, criminals, terrorists, misfits, the world"s unfortunates and if we are lucky their brain surgeons, who in a lot of cases I wouldn"t trust to operate on my cat. They get their children educated free of charge, free health care, nobody must criticise them and somewhere to live with their rent paid -£2,000 a week, with one family; let"s hope this is the change of the tide, on this issue.

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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi 1691 View Post
    More Xenophobia coming out of UK.

    If someone needs social housing it should be based only on need. With Xenophobia so rife among the British population, I can see why so many people travel long distances to get out of the UK.
    They travel even longer distances to get here - and take far greater risks!

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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by Midas View Post
    I suppose it depends on the definition of homeless and whether there is accommodation that immigrants can go to if they so choose. But quite frankly I don't see why anyone who chooses to go and live in another country, refugee, asylum seeker or not, should automatically expect to be housed or fed.
    Are you all talking about housing rules issued and supported by the present establishment? The same cheating, Thieving, liars we've always had running the show? Are you all expecting these people to havve changed their anti-whites, anti-British stance over night or something down those lines? Can a Leoperd change its spots NOW? Those times have GONE! The political leaders of this country have made doublely sure that those times of democratic fair play, will never RETURN! Simply by erroding away the British peoples civil rights! (Or has anyone here not noticed that this is not the Britain we've all grew up in? Even the Queen has dumped the place!) They themselves don't want to rule Britain, they've got the place in such a state that they don't know what else they can do, they'll say anything to save their necks from the indigenous moaners! They're trying to keep the peace for a while longer so they can hand us over to the undemocratic EU, get their cushy jobs pick up their finacial bonuses, then them and their families can simply blend in with the NEW rulers and gangsters of the EU; leaving a wealth of cheap man-power here in good old blightey to do their bidding until time in memorium.
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi 1691 View Post
    More Xenophobia coming out of UK.

    If someone needs social housing it should be based only on need. With Xenophobia so rife among the British population, I can see why so many people travel long distances to get out of the UK.
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    Re: Locals to be given priority over immigrants in queue for council houses

    Quote Originally Posted by sheffield39 View Post
    Are you all talking about housing rules issued and supported by the present establishment? The same cheating, Thieving, liars we've always had running the show? Are you all expecting these people to havve changed their anti-whites, anti-British stance over night or something down those lines? Can a Leoperd change its spots NOW? Those times have GONE! The political leaders of this country have made doublely sure that those times of democratic fair play, will never RETURN! Simply by erroding away the British peoples civil rights! (Or has anyone here not noticed that this is not the Britain we've all grew up in? Even the Queen has dumped the place!) They themselves don't want to rule Britain, they've got the place in such a state that they don't know what else they can do, they'll say anything to save their necks from the indigenous moaners! They're trying to keep the peace for a while longer so they can hand us over to the undemocratic EU, get their cushy jobs pick up their finacial bonuses, then them and their families can simply blend in with the NEW rulers and gangsters of the EU; leaving a wealth of cheap man-power here in good old blightey to do their bidding until time in memorium.
    I wasn't referring to rules issued by any particular party, I was simply asking a rhetorical question and making a statement of personal view.
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