Sorry from Gordon Brown

[LA]

Haha, you thought by reading this title Gordon Brown has actually said sorry... well no he hasn't.

In his speech to Congress, Gordon Brown yet again bottled out of saying sorry for taking Britain to the brink of bankruptcy.

So we have set up www.sorryfromgordon.com where you can write an apology note from Gordon Brown and send it on to everyone you think the Prime Minister should say sorry to.

[UncleVanya]

'Never, Never' says he. 'I dinnae knaw how tae!" He burbles. "Its all Maggie Thatchers fault!" he whines...

Of course Gordon McRuin won't appologise, or even hint at such a statement. Gordy is one of those dour Scots who beleives that he is on some mission to 'Save the World' whilst everything here in the UK is falling down the pan.

One thing is for sure, assuming the Labour Party Faithful still don't beleive the crap that Tony BLair used to serve up, then Labour might have a chance - but if McRuin is ousted in a leadership contest, who is there to replace him. Harriet Har-person? (Wow - that would be a nightmare!)

Labour is stuffed anyway. The local elections and elections for the EU Parliament in May this year will give a good indication of which way things might go in 2010. Assuming McRuin has not 'engineered a national emergency' to abolish parliament and democracy. Personally, I don't trust anyone in the Labour government any more now.

They are nothing but a bunch of toss-pots still trying to serve up the same old hogswash that Blair peddled for many a long year before Gordy's whinging and whining to be 'Prime Mentalist' drove Blair out.

So, roll on 2010, a chance to dump this bunch of proto-control freaks!!

[Kiwi 1691]

Ha ha, you thought by reading this title Gordon Brown has actually said sorry... well no he hasn't.

In his speech to Congress, Gordon Brown yet again bottled out of saying sorry for taking Britain to the brink of bankruptcy.

So we have set up www.sorryfromgordon.com where you can write an apology note from Gordon Brown and send it on to everyone you think the Prime Minister should say sorry to.

God I hate conservative propaganda.

Socialism is always the answer.







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[LA]

God I hate conservative propaganda.

Socialism is always the answer.

It is not propaganda.
It is merely making a joke of Gordon Brown.

Socialism is always the answer in theory. In practicality, Conservatism works.

[Kiwi 1691]

It is not propaganda.
It is merely making a joke of Gordon Brown.

It is a joke about Gordon Brown used as propaganda.

[LA]

It is a joke about Gordon Brown used as propaganda.

Its not propaganda...

That is ridiclous.

I laugh at Alistair Darlings Eyebrows.... DAMN I am spreading anti-Darling propaganda...

See how ridiculous your statement is...

[Kiwi 1691]

I laugh at Alistair Darlings Eyebrows.... DAMN I am spreading anti-Darling propaganda...

They are two very differant things, the site and your example.

[LA]

They are two very differant things, the site and your example.

I made a website that sends out letters of apology from Alistair darling for his weird eye brows.

OH NO ANTI DARLING PROPAGANDA!!!

[Kiwi 1691]

I made a website that sends out letters of apology from Alistair darling for his weird eye brows.

OH NO ANTI DARLING PROPAGANDA!!!

Losing your cool are you.

[LA]

no, you just think opinions and fact are propaganda.

[Kiwi 1691]

no, you just think opinions and fact are propaganda.

opinions and fact can both be propaganda. The website is used by conservatives to turn people away from labour to generate support for conservative parties.

[Tete123]

opinions and fact can both be propaganda. The website is used by conservatives to turn people away from labour to generate support for conservative parties.

And the Labour Party website does what exactly? The British gvnt. using public funds (Westminister and Whitehall advertising budgets) to promote Labour policy is what... providing the electorate with unbiased and non-propagandist information.

And Socialism is always the answer is it... I think you need to read up on a little bit of history my friend; I suggest you start with the success that wasn't the Soviet Union.

[Kiwi 1691]

And the Labour Party website does what exactly? The British gvnt. using public funds (Westminister and Whitehall advertising budgets) to promote Labour policy is what... providing the electorate with unbiased and non-propagandist information.

And Socialism is always the answer is it... I think you need to read up on a little bit of history my friend; I suggest you start with the success that wasn't the Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union was not a socialist state it was a dictatorship that claimed it was a caring socialist state. In a socialist state the persecution that occurred would not have happened, though the right wing is all for persecution.

You may have noticed that all the countries in the news because of their failing economies are very capitalist nations not socialist nations, what does that tell you.

[Grimble Gromble]

Haha, you thought by reading this title Gordon Brown has actually said sorry... well no he hasn't.

In his speech to Congress, Gordon Brown yet again bottled out of saying sorry for taking Britain to the brink of bankruptcy.

So we have set up www.sorryfromgordon.com where you can write an apology note from Gordon Brown and send it on to everyone you think the Prime Minister should say sorry to.

.....Y...........A............W.............N..... .

[JacquesMagique]

And the Labour Party website does what exactly? The British gvnt. using public funds (Westminister and Whitehall advertising budgets) to promote Labour policy is what... providing the electorate with unbiased and non-propagandist information.

And Socialism is always the answer is it... I think you need to read up on a little bit of history my friend; I suggest you start with the success that wasn't the Soviet Union.

Beat the Nazis though didn't they

*ignores following 60 years*

But tbh, I am getting a bit sick of tories sayign that the financial crisis is Gordon Brown's fault. Firstly, it's a GLOBAL crisis, secondly, as neoliberals, the tories were in favour of less banking regulation anywayyy.

[LA]

Beat the Nazis though didn't they

*ignores following 60 years*

But tbh, I am getting a bit sick of tories sayign that the financial crisis is Gordon Brown's fault. Firstly, it's a GLOBAL crisis, secondly, as neoliberals, the tories were in favour of less banking regulation anywayyy.

You have got the wrong end of the stick.

The Tories are not saying this crisis is his fault, they are saying it is mostly his fault.

In his 11 years, he did nothing to help the countries economy. In most cases, he made it worse. The Tories do like less regulation, that is true, however they believe in responsibility and always have.

Gordon Brown encouraged this risky lending, and behold it backfired.
Brown did not save any money for the future, and what moron cannot predict a recession after 10 years - I made the assumption a recession was coming due to the time of the last one.

[JacquesMagique]

You have got the wrong end of the stick.

The Tories are not saying this crisis is his fault, they are saying it is mostly his fault.

In his 11 years, he did nothing to help the countries economy. In most cases, he made it worse. The Tories do like less regulation, that is true, however they believe in responsibility and always have.

Gordon Brown encouraged this risky lending, and behold it backfired.
Brown did not save any money for the future, and what moron cannot predict a recession after 10 years - I made the assumption a recession was coming due to the time of the last one.

But it wasn't MOSTLY his fault was it? there wouldn't have been a problem if it were not for the American bank failings which started it all, and would have caused a major problem over here anyway, Brown or no Brown.

[LA]

But it wasn't MOSTLY his fault was it? there wouldn't have been a problem if it were not for the American bank failings which started it all, and would have caused a major problem over here anyway, Brown or no Brown.

You are not paying attention.

Gordon Brown was our chancellor for 10 years and still has control over the economy. During that time he made huge errors and resolved some errors through the selling of our assets, such as gold, at base value.

Gordon Brown through his economic mismanagement and moron styled management, failed to protect Britain against this.

The problem may have started in America, but Gordon Brown damn well helped it hurt Britain.

[Grimble Gromble]

You are not paying attention.

Gordon Brown was our chancellor for 10 years and still has control over the economy. During that time he made huge errors and resolved some errors through the selling of our assets, such as gold, at base value.

Gordon Brown through his economic mismanagement and moron styled management, failed to protect Britain against this.

The problem may have started in America, but Gordon Brown damn well helped it hurt Britain.

I am sure our forum member IS paying attention, bit of a cheap shot that !!

So if our Gord had managed our economy better during his time as chancellor, we would now be recession free would we ?

[Marxist Nutter]

You are not paying attention.

Gordon Brown was our chancellor for 10 years and still has control over the economy. During that time he made huge errors and resolved some errors through the selling of our assets, such as gold, at base value.

Gordon Brown through his economic mismanagement and moron styled management, failed to protect Britain against this.

The problem may have started in America, but Gordon Brown damn well helped it hurt Britain.

well.. all you can really blame him for was handing over monetary policy to the B of E. Most people think this was a good idea tho (I still have my doubts about this). But the fact remains as chancellor of a piddly little nation in a globalised economy he really wasn't managing anything of any great importance; certainly nothing that could have made much of a difference.

A Tory government would have done no better, of that I can be 100% certain!

[LA]

A Tory government would have done a damn better.
Unlike Labour, it seems the Conservatives can actually run an economy.

Grimble, if Gordon Brown did a better job as chancellor we would have weathered with recession with little problems. It would mean we had 10 years of a collected contingency fund, ready for the recession.

Marxist, we may be a small country but you forget, it is this country that had the worlds largest empire. Though we may not have the empire anymore, we still have huge global influence. When a country sinks into bankruptcy, ones ability is questioned.
Britain is of great importance and always has been.

[Grimble Gromble]

Grimble, if Gordon Brown did a better job as chancellor we would have weathered with recession with little problems. It would mean we had 10 years of a collected contingency fund, ready for the recession.

Weathered the recession with little problems eh, my biggest laugh this week ! thanks for that.

Our Gord could have built a "contingency fund" for the recession but the thing was our NHS and Schools were more important, with record breaking investment needed in those sectors. All needed due to lack of investment from the previous administation, but of course you won't want to hear about that will you ?

LA quote: In his 11 years, he did nothing to help the countries economy. In most cases, he made it worse. The Tories do like less regulation, that is true, however they believe in responsibility and always have. Gordon Brown encouraged this risky lending, and behold it backfired.
Brown did not save any money for the future, and what moron cannot predict a recession after 10 years - I made the assumption a recession was coming due to the time of the last one.unquote

We cannot regulate UK banks unilaterally, you need the rest of the world to do the same, otherwise our banks would not be able to compete.

[Midas]

Our Gord could have built a "contingency fund" for the recession but the thing was our NHS and Schools were more important, with record breaking investment needed in those sectors. All needed due to lack of investment from the previous administation, but of course you won't want to hear about that will you ?

Oh come on! No matter how much money is thrown at them, both the NHS and the state schools are struggling under a welter of bureaucracy and inefficiency, virtually of it stemming from the fact that they're government-run with little incentive to do better other than politically inspired and highly flexible paper targets which don't mean a thing in real terms. Look how much money this government alone has ploughed into both, then look at how much standards have slipped and how costs have risen despite this. Typical hallmarks of nationalised services.

What these sectors need is a top to bottom overhaul to ensure that the whole of their administrative systems are both efficient and effective and not hemorrhaging hundreds of millions of pounds which contribute little to either of those really concerned, the patients and the children.

[Grimble Gromble]

Midas, you make some good points, I will concede that we have to find better and more efficient ways to channel the money to the areas most needed, (I dont think the private sector is the answer though) But that debate is for another thread, I was replying to the thread's author on where a lot of money was earmarked over the past 10 years. To add, we cannot save for everything !

[LA]

But Gordon Brown could have saved plenty of finance which could have been used to instantly nationalise all troubled banks, temporarily disband council tax for 5 years, and much more.

All of these methods could have been done if Gordon Brown managed the economy properly.

Don't get me started on the VAT cut.