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Reply With QuoteThat's modern politics LA! Political expediency and buying votes seem to rank far higher with all our political parties than either listening to the electorate or implementing policies which will benefit the whole country irrespective of all else
This is a discussion on BNP forced Labour Immigration policy change within the Labour Party Political Forum forums, part of the Political Parties Forum category; Okay, so recently the Labour party has been announcing the problems with immigration and the affects its causing the country. ...
Conservative Member
Okay, so recently the Labour party has been announcing the problems with immigration and the affects its causing the country. Now, the Conservative Party has already made the criticism that Labour are merely addressing the issue because they are losing votes.
Now, is it just me who is becoming increasingly annoyed to witness our Labour Government making necessary changes, only when it benefits them to do so.
I am outraged. Over a decade Labour have had chances to stricten the immigration system. Time and time again they have failed or loosened it.
They are finally addressing the issue, but for the wrong reasons.
I am sick and tired of this Government acting in its own interests. When you are a opposition party you can act in a manner that benefits you more; if you so please (Tories and Lib Dems, however, when in Government such a thing in inexcusable.
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That's modern politics LA! Political expediency and buying votes seem to rank far higher with all our political parties than either listening to the electorate or implementing policies which will benefit the whole country irrespective of all else
"High taxes don't redistribute wealth; they redistribute taxpayers" -- Arthur Laffer
Senior MP
Labour had already introduced more anti immigration policy than any other government in UK history.
The fascists are always whining about being discriminated against. It's quite simple, if the fascists dont want to be descriminated against, they should stop discriminating against others.
Conservative Member
I laughed so much at this comment I believe not only have my lungs ruptured, but my diaphragm is in knotsOriginally Posted by Neo2012
Senior MP
Listeneing to the electorate and implementing policies which will benefit the whole country are let's be honest quite contradictory things.That's modern politics LA! Political expediency and buying votes seem to rank far higher with all our political parties than either listening to the electorate or implementing policies which will benefit the whole country irrespective of all else
So unproductive has conservatism been in producing a general conception of how a social order is maintained that its modern votaries, in trying to construct a theoretical foundation, invariably find themselves appealing almost exclusively to authors who regarded themselves as liberal. - F.A. Hayek
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Conservative Member
No.
They may be different, they may be the same. Contradictory is not the word for all cases.
Senior MP
Maybe not in all cases fair enough.
But in the case of immigration, Labour certainly felt they were acting in the country's interest with their immigration policy over the last few years, as do I. However they are obviously going to adhere to more populist policies in the face of a tightly fought election.
So unproductive has conservatism been in producing a general conception of how a social order is maintained that its modern votaries, in trying to construct a theoretical foundation, invariably find themselves appealing almost exclusively to authors who regarded themselves as liberal. - F.A. Hayek
Economic Left/Right: 4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.74
Conservative Member
I would disagree with that.
Government Aids have come out declaring this immigration policy ridiculous or intentional to create a multicultural society to damage the right wing.
They were not acting in the countries best interest and they know it. If they have any concept of sustainable, they would know that.
Senior MP
So they go into politics to damage the country? That's hilarious.
So unproductive has conservatism been in producing a general conception of how a social order is maintained that its modern votaries, in trying to construct a theoretical foundation, invariably find themselves appealing almost exclusively to authors who regarded themselves as liberal. - F.A. Hayek
Economic Left/Right: 4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.74
Conservative Member
They go into politics to gain power, not for the betterment of the country.
Senior MP
And the tories??
So unproductive has conservatism been in producing a general conception of how a social order is maintained that its modern votaries, in trying to construct a theoretical foundation, invariably find themselves appealing almost exclusively to authors who regarded themselves as liberal. - F.A. Hayek
Economic Left/Right: 4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.74
Conservative Member
Some also entered politics for power.
Senior MP
So why do the people who always have power, Big Business, support immigration?
The fascists are always whining about being discriminated against. It's quite simple, if the fascists dont want to be descriminated against, they should stop discriminating against others.
Senior MP
What "Government Aids" have saidImmigration doesn't damage the right? The BNP wouldn't exist without it.
Also, I have been led to believe, that legislation under new labour about immigration, is much tougher than it was under the Tories. Can you point to any changes in legislation which would contradict this belief?
It seems to me, as in every other sphere, New Labour listens to the demands of big business for immigration. This is why, except for a brief flirting with extreme immigration policy by Howard, the Tories, have pretty similar policies to new labour. If you want to blame anyone for "the pillage of foriegn labour forces", it's big business, isn't it?
The fascists are always whining about being discriminated against. It's quite simple, if the fascists dont want to be descriminated against, they should stop discriminating against others.
BNP Forum Member
Ofcourse it would, or atleast the right wing would not need to be so far right.Immigration doesn't damage the right? The BNP wouldn't exist without it.
For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal. - Enoch Powell, Rivers of Blood speech, 1968.
Senior MP
that's what i'm saying.
The fascists are always whining about being discriminated against. It's quite simple, if the fascists dont want to be descriminated against, they should stop discriminating against others.
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