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What a ridiculous thing to say. The use of rent boys is nothing like in the same league as racism... it's not like they were underage.
This is a discussion on This sounds a bit rich.......... within the Liberal Democrats Party Political Forum forums, part of the Political Parties Forum category; MP Mark Oaten has slammed as racist the 1,032 residents that voted BNP in last week’s European Elections. Mr Oaten ...
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MP Mark Oaten has slammed as racist the 1,032 residents that voted BNP in last week’s European Elections.
Mr Oaten MP said: “I am shocked and frankly disgusted that 1,000 of my constituents have voted for a racist party.
“I thought Winchester was a more tolerant place. In my mind those that voted for the BNP are either racist or ignorant. I might be criticised for using such strong language but I am not prepared to sit back and just say it was a protest vote.” ..........
Mark Oaten hits out at voters for the BNP (From Daily Echo)
Blasting all BNP voters as racist or ignorant? I wonder if his moral compass is still trying to steer him away from those rent boys?
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What a ridiculous thing to say. The use of rent boys is nothing like in the same league as racism... it's not like they were underage.
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Regardless of Mark Oaten's personal life, insulting the intellect of people that chose to vote BNP - for reasons known only to them - is only going to alienate them further.
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What a Wolly. This just shows you how out of touch the Lid Dems are. Its good when wollies like this criticise the BNP voters in this manner, it will only encourage more to vote BNP.
Brits do not like being told off for thinking.
From SussexWithLove
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Originally Posted by JacquesMagique
Personally, I am not familiar with rent boys and what league they are supposed to belong to, but thank you for sharing your wisdom on the subject.
From SussexWithLove
Hes right though
Bnp voters are either racist
Or ignorant, think that they know what the party is about and dont understand its motives.
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You could say the same about Labour voters.
From SussexWithLove
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Although i dont personally support Labour, i doubt you can call their supporters racist just for voting for them...
I wouldn't say the majority of BNP voters are racist, i think that many voted BNP so as to protest against the main political parties and they were ignorant of the BNP's racist agenda.
Thats right.
Racist
or ignorant (mislead, think they will just get whats on the manifesto)
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Voting Labour is no less racist than voting BNP.
From SussexWithLove
World goin one way, people another
Sorry Sussex but that is just bull****. You can deny all you want that BNP version 2.0 is racist but history tells us that many party members ARE, and out of all the other parties, Labour are as far from racist as could be. Now the tories on the other hand...
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Not really. The majority of people who vote BNP like their policies, which aren’t racist.
Some people will vote BNP because they are racist, maybe because they don’t want minorities here anymore because of their skin colour. If that’s the case then they are voting for the wrong party.
The BNP only wish to stop immigration and kick out illegals and bogus asylum seekers.
All the racist minorities who don’t like British culture will vote Labour.
From SussexWithLove
World goin one way, people another
What is the point of the distinction between ethnically British and civically British then? If race has absolutely nothing to do with it, then why do we need such a distinction? Furthermore, would you concede that the BNP has a history of racism? Because most people who remember them back in the 80s and 90s sure think so. So all those people have either left or changed their minds?
That is the most bizarre thing I've ever seen on these boards. I think if they think like that they are voting for exactly the right party. I'm sure most people would agree.
Yeah, for now.
I doubt it. Labour poll particularly bad amongst minorities. Strange considering according to the BNP this government has placed them above the white man.
Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time.
E. B. White
"To be honest, you think a/c jump the fence, I say the whole college jump the fence"
The wonder that is Angelcountry
"If we're going to have a police state, at least orgainise it properly!"
Guy Outside the Chilcott Enquiry as he was led away by police for causing a 'disturbance' (thanks to LA I now know his name is Michael Culver)
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We are talking about people who vote for them. You can be any race, colour or religion and vote for the BNP.
It’s a fact. The BNP aren’t radical enough for this. If people vote for them because they don’t want minorities here anymore then they will be disappointed.
If they changed their policies for the worse the party would collapse.
Where did you get this information from?
From SussexWithLove
World goin one way, people another
Yeah, but you can't join. No black people in the BNP. So if they ever got into power, there would a rule that says no black people in the cabinet. That is their position Sussex, if you think that has nothing to do with race then please, enlighten me?
Hopefully racists will always be disappointed in the aftermath of elections, but I bet last Monday morning there were quite a few of them celebrating.
They will and it will.
From most of the BNP posts on this board, from the BNP website, and from hearing their members. They think that the state looks after minorities and immigrants better than the indigenous white man, that is what they say isn't it? Or have I just made that up?
Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time.
E. B. White
"To be honest, you think a/c jump the fence, I say the whole college jump the fence"
The wonder that is Angelcountry
"If we're going to have a police state, at least orgainise it properly!"
Guy Outside the Chilcott Enquiry as he was led away by police for causing a 'disturbance' (thanks to LA I now know his name is Michael Culver)
Conservative Member
I agree with Ruth Lea on this issue.
The BNP gain a lot of support/votes from people not because of protest or because people are racist, but because of the immigration issue.
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That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.
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It’s not really colour though is it? It’s about being indigenous or not and creating a level playing field of the indigenous people.
The BNP have said on many occasion that it is our country who is racist. One example is that the indigenous Brit doesn’t appear on consensus forms. The state has forced us to be white British, which means the Indigenous people are not protected by the race relations act, however everyone else is.
The BNP exists to level out the playing field and bring these issues out into the open and until the indigenous people are recognised and put on the same level as everyone else in our own country the BNP will always have an indigenous only membership policy.
Opinionated. Many racists have left the party over the past 20 years because their policies are now too liberal.
I bet there are a few racist minorities who celebrate when Labour get elected.
Then you have nothing to worry about then do you. You're in a win win situation.
I said minorities tend to vote for Labour, you said no they dont, I asked where did you get this information from, then you prove my point, im confused??
From SussexWithLove
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What even more ridiculous than this?
http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/81...0.290x586.jpeg
From SussexWithLove
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I stand corrected
So unproductive has conservatism been in producing a general conception of how a social order is maintained that its modern votaries, in trying to construct a theoretical foundation, invariably find themselves appealing almost exclusively to authors who regarded themselves as liberal. - F.A. Hayek
Economic Left/Right: 4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.74
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