This will be one of those things that we never know, like Madeline Mcann, Dianas death etc etc. We will never know the real answers.

I reckon life was made unbearable for him by the media and by certain members of the government and he topped himself. END OF!

Originally Posted by TheLegalEagle

This will be one of those things that we never know, like Madeline Mcann, Dianas death etc etc. We will never know the real answers.

Too early to say in the Mcann case I think.

I read in a paper today that apparently no fingerprints were found on his knife. Which would mean that he didn't do it with that knife. Now this means either someone else killed him and was wearing gloves or that someone switched the knives around.

Hi,

I hope the Mail paid lots of money for this story as the Lib.Dim. MP deserves a fee commensurate with the income of Freddy Forsyth as his work of fiction is on a par.

Firstly Kelly DID NOT expose the so called Dodgey Dossier!

David Kelly took his own life - there is absolutely not one shred of evidence contra and nor is there any evidence contra the mental state suited to suicide. There is merely a series of conspiratorial attempts to prove black is white! There are VERY specific reasons that mittigate against an assassination each and every one of them sufficient in its own right to debunk the fantasy.

Diana died due to her own stupidity and that of the Fayed lad in not wearing seat belts and permitting their driver to drive in a manner where the slightest error could lead to a fatal crash.

Mr. & Mrs. MCCann are diredctly responsible for the death of their daughter due at least to irresponsibility and willfull child neglect.

3 Conspiracies irrefutably debunked based on fact and logic!

Such a shame to use fact to spoil peoples fantasies - but of course there IS a tooth fairey - there must be because there are teeth. Or is such logic only permitted when selling twaddle to the media?

That Libya had nothing to do with the Lockerbie Bomb is another established FACT just as are the circumstances surrounding Thomas Hamilton's massacre of children in Dunblane - That Lord Cullen presided in both corrupt cover-ups is no surprise to the informed - nor that he chose to hide 27 shelf feet of documentary evidence for 100 years unlawfully to protect people from exposure to the truth is also a matter of record as truth.

Bon soir,
Greg L-W.

Too early to say in the Mcann case I think.

I disagree because after 100+ days we still know no more than we did when this first happened. So much media speculation on the matter has lead to different theories about what has happened but as we can see, the portugese police case has been cut down in size after being dismissed by other investigators as overexagerated.

Im still adamant that they played a part in their daughters death and not just by leaving their kids unattended while they went to eat and get pi$$ed.

We will never know what actually happened to madeline mcann because the political tension over the case has already landed portugese police into trouble with resignations from the case. Portugese police will continue to investigate but will not be so 'full on' as they were before because their first accusations have come to a dead stop.

The Daily Mail and the Daily Express long gave up the roll of investigative Journalism.Ever
since that fateful day in 1997 when Princess Diana died these two rags have gone on
and suggesting more and more fanciful conspiracy thoeries.Things were much better
when they were only right wing bile ducts with a hatred for anything which was not like
they saw themselves.Their list of hate figures was impressive.Puffs,Pakis,***s,Wops,
Spics,Nig Nogs,Lefties,Commies,Dagoes,Yanks,Chink's,Japs,Iti e's,Argies,Whores,Perverts,
Frogs,Scots,Geeks,Krauts,Liberals,Dykes,Paddies,Pu nks,Teds,Ruskie's, and so on.Still it
makes a change doesn't it??.Should the PC brigade take offence at any of these moniker
-'s it isn't my fault these names have been around since well before my time!!!.I only
got them from Bernard Manning R.I.P.

This whole thing was so suspicious. Much more so than JFK. I mean the guy must be only British Citizen to die whose cause of death was determined by a Lord and not a coroner? The more you look into it the more you think the conspiracy theorists have a point - all very suspect if you ask me.

The Mail was right to draw attention to this.

All investigations had to dropped becoz the family wanted to grieve and although this is understandable this is a possible case of state sponsored assassination and surely deserves further investigation?

The case should be re-opened now Blair has gone and can no longer interfere with it!

I do find it very suspicious. However I do not know the full facts and can therefore not pass judgement.

Originally Posted by daft fan

I do find it very suspicious. However I do not know the full facts and can therefore not pass judgement.

Indeed, DF, this is the problem the full facts are hard to come by! Conflicting police reports and coroners reports - all looks very fishy to me.

I have to agree I don't know what happened either although the lack of coherent info in the public domain does increase my suspicions 10 fold!!!

That Libya had nothing to do with the Lockerbie Bomb is another established FACT just as are the circumstances surrounding Thomas Hamilton's massacre of children in Dunblane - That Lord Cullen presided in both corrupt cover-ups is no surprise to the informed - nor that he chose to hide 27 shelf feet of documentary evidence for 100 years unlawfully to protect people from exposure to the truth is also a matter of record as truth.

Bon soir,

Now this is a much much bigger conspiracy yet no-one even turns a hair when a totally
innocent Man is deprived of his freedom for-ever.The Iranians and the Syrians were
behind this outrage,"not" the Scapegoated Libyan's.After the Americans shot that Iran
Air Airbus out of the Sky (they "claimed" that "the" most advanced guided missile war
Ship,could "not" tell the difference between a Iranian F14 Tomcat Fighter Jet and a Wide
Body Heavy Airbus A300???). About 290 Iranian Pilgrims to Mecca died that day,one year
later Pan Am flight 103 crashed on Lockerbie.The Iranians believe in an Eye for an Eye
the death list are pretty much the same,justice Iran and Syrian style.As for Kelly the Man
was a (considering his job) soft shit who should have stood up for himself and told the
Truth,killing yourself over your Pension!?!? Really!!!.The man had Blair by the balls he
could have exposed all of Blairs very costly lies over WMDs,by the way you didn't have to
be a government renowned scientist to know Blairs claims were a load of crap.I have
been a Newshound since the early 1980s and I knew it was a "pack" of cheap lies to get
on side with the rabid Bush Administration.

Originally Posted by UncleVanya

Another one for the Conspiracy Theories, or a real possibility.

Front page of the 'Daily Mail' Saturday 20th October 2007. Sensationalism from the Tabloids or a real possibility that Dr Kelly was assasinated to avoid various governments political embarrasment. When Dr Kelly's 'suicide' was originaly reported in the Press, it was said that there had been numerous inconsistencies, and that this death was not treated as a 'suspicious death', but just assumed to be a normal suicide.

After all both countries, the US and the UK went to war as a result of the so-called intelligence in a 'Dodgy Dossier' that had been copied off the Internet.

What say you Dear Readers.... a tragic suicide or the possibility of another explanation?

Oh do stop it now - come ON..............this is the Daily (hate) Mail we're using as a source - not to be taken seriously at all

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There - how hard can it be ?

Originally Posted by enginetorque

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There - how hard can it be ?

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