Your Funniest Fearsomist Fascist Policies of the BNP!

**Neo2012** · 22-06-2009, 06:15 PM

Giving a gun to all citizens, the fascist state deems worthy.

I've got more, but i'll give others a chance.

**TellMeMore** · 23-06-2009, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Neo2012

Giving a gun to all citizens, the fascist state deems worthy.

I've got more, but i'll give others a chance.

Sorry, you're going to have explain why that's bad first. It might be self-evident to you but not to me.

Citizen Smith · 23-06-2009, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by TellMeMore

Sorry, you're going to have explain why that's bad first. It might be self-evident to you but not to me.

Sorry, but you must be thick if you can't make the comparison between Britain and the USA here.
In Britain, very few people are allowed guns. Little gun crime.
In the USA, lots of people have guns. School massacres and other fatal incidents.
Its easy.

Citizen Smith · 23-06-2009, 03:22 PM

"the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals"

I mean, seriously. Corporal punishment won't stop petty crime, it will just make the receivers of the punishment angry and bitter, more likely to re-offend and worse next time.
For a lot of their more sensible policies they don't go into detail; on how it would be done- as they don't know HOW , and don't know where they would get the money for them, as they want to increase expenditure everywhere it seems.

Fascist policies, racist leaders and empty promises.

**Neo2012** · 23-06-2009, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by TellMeMore

Sorry, you're going to have explain why that's bad first. It might be self-evident to you but not to me.

well my point was, you only get a gun if the fascist state think you are politically correct, everybody who complies to their rules of National Service etc. gets a gun. It's the kind of thing the American constitution was designed to prevent, because its fascist. You of all people should be aware that the arming of ALL citizens, was specifically meant to be a counterweight to dictatorship. If you wanted to draw a comparison, what the BNP have preposed, it is similar what to Saddam Hussein had in Iraq.

**Neo2012** · 23-06-2009, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Ronald Reagan

I completely agree. I most cases guns save lives. The indivdual can take care of him self more efficiently than any government can and a ban on guns leaves everyone unprotected and only those with bad intent armed. A government that tries to protect its citizens by banning guns infact achieves the opposite and leaves everyone unable to defend themselves and therefore puts more people in danger.

get Ur own thread.

**Neo2012** · 23-06-2009, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Midas

I have to admit to being in something of two minds when it comes to the carrying of guns by the general public, and I say this as a registered firearms holder myself owning three shotguns and two rifles, one of which is a semi-automatic. I was also very much against the blanket ban on handguns imposed as a knee-jerk "we've got to do something" reaction following the Dunblane shootings; all that achieved was to deprive something over 750,000 responsible people, including myself, of their hobby.

The statistics which come out of America are conflicting though I have to say. Nicholas is quite correct in much of what he says, however it does have a very high per capita gun crime rate, especially murder. On the other hand he's right when pointing out the situation in Switzerland; perhaps a higher gun ownership per capita than America even, and very little gun crime indeed. But look at South Africa and you see exactly the opposite, high gun ownership and a horrendous level of gun crime.

There's no real pattern to it other than perhaps the stability and responsibility of the people concerned, and I've come to the conclusion that some people should be allowed to carry guns if they choose to do so, but only after very strict and thorough vetting, including a psychological profile. Hand in hand with this though we do need very much tougher laws on both the possession of illegal weapons and on those who choose to violate the property rights of the individual.

get Ur own thread.

**Neo2012** · 23-06-2009, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Nicholas

i cant see where he compared us to the USA but anyway. Little gun crime in the UK? there is plenty of gun crime in the UK most carried out by illegally owned foreign guns or modified versions of non lethal guns. there is also a growing problem with home made weapons. And when you see how easy it is to make one - you will wonder why the state has taken away my right to protect myself and my family.

There is a mad psychosis surrounding guns in this country which i have never really been able to fathom. The criminals have a ready arsenal of weapons - yet the law abiding majority do not. If a man comes into my house and threatens my family or myself i shoudl have the right to defend not only my own life but that opf my family. What do you suggest we do? call the ineffectual police? tackle them with a feather?

Studies in America have shown clearly that states where people are allowed to carry concealed weapons have shown a marked decrease in violent crime. Around 200,000 women every year succesfully defend themselves against rape while carrying a firearm.

Even in Florida where you are allowed to walk around with a concealed weapon , you have more chance of being attacked by a alligator.

Some of the highest gun counts per capita in any single country is in Switzerland. And they had only 34 gun killings in 2006 , lower than the UK. Plus each swiss male is given a firearm upon completion of his military service to be stored at home.

All the looney left will always bring up columbine and other events to mask all the GOOD carrying firearms could do to our society. The BNPs policy on owning a gun isnt funny its just common sense.

can the looney right get Ur own thread.

**Ronald Reagan** · 23-06-2009, 08:45 PM

I know a couple of us may be sliding off topic but you are criticizing the BNP for the wrong reason. How about you use the fact that they will ban inter-racial marriages?

P.S. Someone should start a gun thread.

**TellMeMore** · 23-06-2009, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ronald Reagan

I know a couple of us may be sliding off topic but you are criticizing the BNP for the wrong reason. How about you use the fact that they will ban inter-racial marriages?

P.S. Someone should start a gun thread.

See the original post.

**Ronald Reagan** · 23-06-2009, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by TellMeMore

See the original post.

Oh sorry, it was to my understanding that this thread was intended for the discussion of strange BNP policies.

**Trevortt** · 23-06-2009, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Smith

"the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals"

I mean, seriously. Corporal punishment won't stop petty crime, it will just make the receivers of the punishment angry and bitter, more likely to re-offend and worse next time.
For a lot of their more sensible policies they don't go into detail; on how it would be done- as they don't know HOW , and don't know where they would get the money for them, as they want to increase expenditure everywhere it seems.

Fascist policies, racist leaders and empty promises.

It always amuse me to see arguments FOR the protection of the criminal's HUMAN RIGHTS. The criminal did not pay heed to the human rights of his victims. It is my opinion that criminals needs to be stripped of their human rights and be treated with the same level of violence that they bring to their victims.

HUMAN RIGHTS is afforded to you by the Constitution and if you choose to violate someone else's RIGHTS then your must be stripped of yours.

Corporal punishment is swift and a very good deterrent. Abuses can only happen in a badly managed JUSTICE system so if the JUSTICE system is sorted out the option of corporal punishment is a good option for certain types of crime.

I sincerely hope that COPE will bring back respect and discipline to our society.

**Neo2012** · 23-06-2009, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Ronald Reagan

Oh sorry, it was to my understanding that this thread was intended for the discussion of strange BNP policies.

IT is. If you want to discuss the BNP policy on guns, fair enough, but free ranging discussion and guns is obviously for another thread.

so what do you think of the BNP policy on guns?

**Neo2012** · 23-06-2009, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Trevortt

It always amuse me to see arguments FOR the protection of the criminal's HUMAN RIGHTS. The criminal did not pay heed to the human rights of his victims. It is my opinion that criminals needs to be stripped of their human rights and be treated with the same level of violence that they bring to their victims.

HUMAN RIGHTS is afforded to you by the Constitution and if you choose to violate someone else's RIGHTS then your must be stripped of yours.

Corporal punishment is swift and a very good deterrent. Abuses can only happen in a badly managed JUSTICE system so if the JUSTICE system is sorted out the option of corporal punishment is a good option for certain types of crime.

I sincerely hope that COPE will bring back respect and discipline to our society.

So basically the BNP model their policies on Saudi Arabia? They do say you turn into that which you hate most.

**Neo2012** · 23-06-2009, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Ronald Reagan

How about you use the fact that they will ban inter-racial marriages?

yep, thats a good one.

**TellMeMore** · 23-06-2009, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by Neo2012

yep, thats a good one.

Giving a gun to all citizens, the fascist state deems worthy.

That was the first posting. You have still not backed up in any way your assertion (presumption?) that this is a bad policy.
Am I to assume that you can't argue the point so you'll go on to something you feel on safer ground arguang about? I don't mind either way, I'd just like to know, because this is an interesting debate.

**SussexWithLove** · 23-06-2009, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by Neo2012

IT is. If you want to discuss the BNP policy on guns, fair enough, but free ranging discussion and guns is obviously for another thread.

so what do you think of the BNP policy on guns?

What a load of rubbish. We need to discuss free ranging of guns to determine if the BNP policy is correct or not.

Where is the link to the policy?

**Trevortt** · 24-06-2009, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Neo2012

So basically the BNP model their policies on Saudi Arabia? They do say you turn into that which you hate most.

No they are based on Common Sense, something you lack.

**Nicholas** · 24-06-2009, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by Neo2012

can the looney right get Ur own thread.

you wanted to discuss bnp policy?

**Midas** · 24-06-2009, 09:04 AM

Posts on gun ownership and control moved to here - http://www.politic.co.uk/gun-control...html#post74747

**Neo2012** · 24-06-2009, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by TellMeMore

Giving a gun to all citizens, the fascist state deems worthy.

That was the first posting. You have still not backed up in any way your assertion (presumption?) that this is a bad policy.
Am I to assume that you can't argue the point so you'll go on to something you feel on safer ground arguang about? I don't mind either way, I'd just like to know, because this is an interesting debate.

just chill a bit, and have a open minded discussion.

see post 5

**Ronald Reagan** · 24-06-2009, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Neo2012

IT is. If you want to discuss the BNP policy on guns, fair enough, but free ranging discussion and guns is obviously for another thread.

so what do you think of the BNP policy on guns?

I think it is strange that a fascist party would supprot the right to bear arms because it always appeared to me that fascist removed several far more necessary human rights such as... well, the right to not be killed because of your race or religion. I would consider that a fundamental human right.

**Neo2012** · 24-06-2009, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Ronald Reagan

I think it is strange that a fascist party would supprot the right to bear arms because it always appeared to me that fascist removed several far more necessary human rights such as... well, the right to not be killed because of your race or religion. I would consider that a fundamental human right.

totaly agree about what they do to freedom, ie ban interacial marriagesd, but historically they've always armed the 'politally correct' citzens too.

**Ronald Reagan** · 24-06-2009, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Neo2012

totaly agree about what they do to freedom, ie ban interacial marriagesd, but historically they've always armed the 'politally correct' citzens too.

Oh, I've never heard about that. Wow, that is crazy.

**Neo2012** · 25-06-2009, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Ronald Reagan

Oh, I've never heard about that. Wow, that is crazy.

not really it's key to dictatorship, to arm those people who agree with you, and disarm/imprison those who don't agree with you.

**Ronald Reagan** · 25-06-2009, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Neo2012

not really it's key to dictatorship, to arm those people who agree with you, and disarm/imprison those who don't agree with you.

Makes alot of sense really. But it's still crazy and wrong no doubt. Anyway, I've made my mind up and I do think that overall it is a good idea to allow people the right to bear arms.

**Neo2012** · 25-06-2009, 06:38 PM

their housing/building policies.
'Traditional' 'English' 'designs' anything new build from glass and steel to be banned.
Another one is creating a federation including Ireland, like that is gonna fly.

**Neo2012** · 25-06-2009, 06:43 PM

Now by comparison, what are the funniest fearsomist fascist policies of the NAZI party in Germany before they came to power, given that nobody had seen where fascism leads before?

Citizen Smith · 26-06-2009, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Neo2012

Now by comparison, what are the funniest fearsomist fascist policies of the NAZI party in Germany before they came to power, given that nobody had seen where fascism leads before?

Lets see, I'll start:

Blaming all the nations problems upon a minority, a scapegoat for everyone who feels angry about...well, anything from taxes to war.