I am sick of people questioning me why I vote BNP

[BNP Chris]

The BNP is the manifestation of lax immigration, economic and foreign policy. Every sin has it's penance. You can't make it go away before you atone for it. The BNP is your penance and they are gaining momentum.

British People vote BNP because its right, why should we have to take in and look after all the third world aids infested africans, muslim facists, and general scum putting a burdon on our healthcare, police service, education system and jobs when most of these immigrants are in fact from countries with a Government able, but too selfish to find solutions as to why they're a little bit poor.

Why can't they create their own wealth rather than parasiting off the wealth WE created? Most of these countries already have more land and natural resources than Europe, it says something about what sort of people they are that they've done less with it.

Far from encriching our society they simply make it more like the hell hole nations they've left, just look at the state of London, Luton, Birmingham and every other city with high levels of third world migration. Gun crime, rape, robbery and murder rises with every drop of third world "enrichment" the UK is subjected to! This is what happens when stupid Commies who turned their brains to mush in the 70's and 80's with coke and cannabis come to power!

And I dont understand the term 'Illegal Immigrant' If they have no legal status, they should have no access to public funds or protection under the law. Of course, Labour PMs love to say, "B-b-b-but it's unfair to punish the CHILDREN!!!" You know what's unfair? Saddling future generations of legal children with untenable debt because of all the cash needed to support illegals.

Every day people rush into this country from God knows where, competing for jobs and finding themselves in abject poverty. The only problem is that Britain has become an "entitlement" society; we are currently being saddled with debt to which illegal immigration certainly will contribute.The bad part is that Britain has a deficit that is so huge, it engulfs 1 and 1/2 times our national product. This situation is untenable.

The Labour party has steadily contributed to the economic declines in Britain since before WWI and especially since the end of WWII.
One would think that after 100 years of wealth redistributions and a hugemongous debt, Labour would finally find that illegal immigration is breaking our backs.

Britain should repudiate the treaty that sucked us into Brussels. Why in the hell would you let a bunch of remote bureaucrats run your lives?

[DC]

Hmmm, but would you be for the forced repatriation of ALL non-White immigrants, even legal ones? Some of the Indians in Britain are 2nd or even 3rd generation, some have never been to India. Same with many Blacks.

What about segregation?

[Midas]

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As regards the BNP, you can't have failed to notice that there's been a considerable amount of discussion about them here, mainly very sharply divided in opinion. FWIW I can quite see why they're a party in the ascendant, and I'd personally support some of their immigration policies, however as a party, lead by what's basically a bunch of ex- neo-Nazi thugs, many with criminal convictions for racism and violence, no way!

[pauli007001]

The BNP is the manifestation of lax immigration, economic and foreign policy. Every sin has it's penance. You can't make it go away before you atone for it. The BNP is your penance and they are gaining momentum.

British People vote BNP because its right, why should we have to take in and look after all the third world aids infested africans, muslim facists, and general scum putting a burdon on our healthcare, police service, education system and jobs when most of these immigrants are in fact from countries with a Government able, but too selfish to find solutions as to why they're a little bit poor.

Why can't they create their own wealth rather than parasiting off the wealth WE created? Most of these countries already have more land and natural resources than Europe, it says something about what sort of people they are that they've done less with it.

Far from encriching our society they simply make it more like the hell hole nations they've left, just look at the state of London, Luton, Birmingham and every other city with high levels of third world migration. Gun crime, rape, robbery and murder rises with every drop of third world "enrichment" the UK is subjected to! This is what happens when stupid Commies who turned their brains to mush in the 70's and 80's with coke and cannabis come to power!

And I dont understand the term 'Illegal Immigrant' If they have no legal status, they should have no access to public funds or protection under the law. Of course, Labour PMs love to say, "B-b-b-but it's unfair to punish the CHILDREN!!!" You know what's unfair? Saddling future generations of legal children with untenable debt because of all the cash needed to support illegals.

Every day people rush into this country from God knows where, competing for jobs and finding themselves in abject poverty. The only problem is that Britain has become an "entitlement" society; we are currently being saddled with debt to which illegal immigration certainly will contribute.The bad part is that Britain has a deficit that is so huge, it engulfs 1 and 1/2 times our national product. This situation is untenable.

The Labour party has steadily contributed to the economic declines in Britain since before WWI and especially since the end of WWII.
One would think that after 100 years of wealth redistributions and a hugemongous debt, Labour would finally find that illegal immigration is breaking our backs.

Britain should repudiate the treaty that sucked us into Brussels. Why in the hell would you let a bunch of remote bureaucrats run your lives?

Oh so that is why you Vote BNP?

Nothing to with goose stepping around the RWB festival wearing your 88 T shirt and screaming Heil when greasy Griffin shows up?

[JacquesMagique]

The Labour party has steadily contributed to the economic declines in Britain since before WWI and especially since the end of WWII.

The BNP's economic policies are the biggest joke ever. Protectionism and rebuilding the manufacturing base are a huge waste of time.

[DC]

The BNP's economic policies are the biggest joke ever. Protectionism and rebuilding the manufacturing base are a huge waste of time.

Can I ask why? Such policies are often the 'safe bet,' they're similiar to the policies of the Nazi party, which I personally view as the most successful economic turnaround in history, racial exploitation aside.

They won't provide the huge benefits that can come from free trade, but they do come with minimal risk.

[Opinionated]

Hey, it's a secret ballot I suggest you don't tell anyone!

[Midas]

Moved posts on the barter economy to - http://www.politic.co.uk/economy-fin...er-v-cash.html

[Patriot1]

I dont think I could put it much better myself Chris.

When I say to people I support BNP I get dirty looks.

This government is trying to be so politically correct its costing the country. Other countries such as China and Pakistan limit immigration ruthlessly and places such as Australia and New Zealand atleast have a policy which only allows skilled immigrants in. Why is it only the BNP have a backbone to stand up and tackle immigration? The facts are quite frightening.

• At the current rate of immigration, a house has to be built every 6 minutes to cope with it.
• If we want to stop our population reching 70 million by 2020 we have to stop immigration by 75%, current government efforts have only reduced it by 5%.

The most recent pathetic attempt to curb immigration is an absolute joke. Can any labour, conservative or any non-BNP party supporter tell me how rewarding illegal immigrants with grants (up to thousands of pounds) if they agree to return home is a good idea? As they can return, "oops Im caught" and claim again.

Even as a BNP supporter I disagree with completely closing the doors to non-whites. Multi-culturism is a good thing. I have black friends and one of my best friends is actually from Pakistan.
However, I don't think we should keep our doors wide open.
I'm not a racist, but a sad fact is that there are more people of black ethnicity on the criminal DNA database than white, however they only make up a small percentage of our population. Knowing that not every policemen and judge in this country is racist we can only conclude that they are more likely to commit a crime.

Now, if we (as the BNP suggests) deport every illegal immigrant and legal immigrant who has committed a serious crime (rape, murder, terrorism etc) then we would free up 70% of our jail space and save the taxpayer millions.

[fubar]

I dont think I could put it much better myself Chris.

When I say to people I support BNP I get dirty looks.

This government is trying to be so politically correct its costing the country. Other countries such as China and Pakistan limit immigration ruthlessly and places such as Australia and New Zealand atleast have a policy which only allows skilled immigrants in. Why is it only the BNP have a backbone to stand up and tackle immigration? The facts are quite frightening.

• At the current rate of immigration, a house has to be built every 6 minutes to cope with it.
• If we want to stop our population reching 70 million by 2020 we have to stop immigration by 75%, current government efforts have only reduced it by 5%.

The most recent pathetic attempt to curb immigration is an absolute joke. Can any labour, conservative or any non-BNP party supporter tell me how rewarding illegal immigrants with grants (up to thousands of pounds) if they agree to return home is a good idea? As they can return, "oops Im caught" and claim again.

Even as a BNP supporter I disagree with completely closing the doors to non-whites. Multi-culturism is a good thing. I have black friends and one of my best friends is actually from Pakistan.
However, I don't think we should keep our doors wide open.
I'm not a racist, but a sad fact is that there are more people of black ethnicity on the criminal DNA database than white, however they only make up a small percentage of our population. Knowing that not every policemen and judge in this country is racist we can only conclude that they are more likely to commit a crime.

Now, if we (as the BNP suggests) deport every illegal immigrant and legal immigrant who has committed a serious crime (rape, murder, terrorism etc) then we would free up 70% of our jail space and save the taxpayer millions.

I find the BNP a joke and don't feel i have to justify as to why i don't vote BNP
If you Can't se why people give you dirty looks when you say youra member of the BNP you and the BNP deserve each other

[Marxist Nutter]

To be fair I give Tory votes pretty dirty looks as well!!

[DC]

The issue I think with the BNP is that they have gotten that racist mark(not undeservedly), I think a party with BNP policies but not its members would do very well.

[LA]

Any party that has policies similar to the BNP's or other parties like UKIP will be dismissed by the mainstream as racist or extremist

[DC]

*sigh* Goddamn liberals thinking that immigration is always wonderful and creates a happy multicultural paradise as they skip past the slums, extremism and jump over the corpse of British identity...

[Patriot1]

The issue I think with the BNP is that they have gotten that racist mark(not undeservedly), I think a party with BNP policies but not its members would do very well.

I think this is a big issue too. Due to Griffin and Brons' past activity in the national front they will always be stained as racists, which to be completely honest they probally are. However, the majority of people in the party and the majority of supporters are not skinhead thugs or racists, they just want to keep Britain as Britain. A lot of the BNPs policies could improve Britain but people are scared to vote because of the racist tags on the leaders.

[DC]

Anybody up for creating a new party and copying the BNP policies? We could call it the 'Democratic National Party' or the 'British Nationalist Front'. What about the 'Britain First Party'?

[Midas]

Anybody up for creating a new party and copying the BNP policies? We could call it the 'Democratic National Party' or the 'British Nationalist Front'. What about the 'Britain First Party'?

Quite honestly if someone was to cherry-pick the 'best' (subjective I know) policies from all of the current political parties, remove the political ideology from them and wrap them up in a package which had elements of direct democracy and proportional representation in it, it could be a winner.

But the biggest hurdles by far would be to convince the understandably cynical British public that a/ it was a genuine attempt to introduce a completely new force into politics and b/ that once in power, such a party would stay true to its fundamental principles. Of course every single existing political party would try its damndest to rubbish such a new party by any means they could, fair or foul, but what's new in them trying to do that.

As far as names are concerned, I'd personally steer well clear of things with 'nationalist' or 'democratic' or 'popular' or similar in it, and would stick to a plain old "British Party" or something along those lines - not that I'm thinking of starting one I hasten to add.

[Patriot1]

The main reason I vote BNP is because they are the only ones who offer real asnwers, unlike the politically cross-dressing parties of today.

If there was a "British party" which cherry picked all the best policies without the ban on interacial marriage and nonsense like that, I'd definately vote for it.

Problem is, getting the message across when you're a small party with little funding.

Very unlikely to ever happen. Shame really.

[fubar]

Quite honestly if someone was to cherry-pick the 'best' (subjective I know) policies from all of the current political parties, remove the political ideology from them and wrap them up in a package which had elements of direct democracy and proportional representation in it, it could be a winner.

But the biggest hurdles by far would be to convince the understandably cynical British public that a/ it was a genuine attempt to introduce a completely new force into politics and b/ that once in power, such a party would stay true to its fundamental principles. Of course every single existing political party would try its damndest to rubbish such a new party by any means they could, fair or foul, but what's new in them trying to do that.

As far as names are concerned, I'd personally steer well clear of things with 'nationalist' or 'democratic' or 'popular' or similar in it, and would stick to a plain old "British Party" or something along those lines - not that I'm thinking of starting one I hasten to add.

You could try and base the the politics on law

[fubar]

Any party that has policies similar to the BNP's or other parties like UKIP will be dismissed by the mainstream as racist or extremist

and dam right to

[Neo2012]

Any party that has policies similar to the BNP's or other parties like UKIP will be dismissed by the mainstream as racist or extremist

the BNP have approached UKIP several times, to form electoral alliances, but they refused to work with a fascist party.

To my knowledge, mainstream parties have not described UKIP, as a racist or extremist party. Do you have any examples?

In fact, I seem to remember them being promoted as a legitimate alternative for potential BNP voters.

[Patriot1]

Yes but thats pretty much the only policy they have in common, they both want out of the EU. Its for different reasons too, so they havent got that much in common.
Plus thats pretty much UKIPs main policy, after that, they havent got much going for them and they're not a very well run or organised party, only gaining votes from the death of labour which is why they are welcomed, as they are unlikely to succeed. Well, thats my opinion anyway

[LA]

the BNP have approached UKIP several times, to form electoral alliances, but they refused to work with a fascist party.

To my knowledge, mainstream parties have not described UKIP, as a racist or extremist party. Do you have any examples?

In fact, I seem to remember them being promoted as a legitimate alternative for potential BNP voters.

David Cameron called UKIP closet racists.

Though one Tory peer did ask people to vote UKIP if they were not going to vote mainstream.

[LA]

Yes but thats pretty much the only policy they have in common, they both want out of the EU. Its for different reasons too, so they havent got that much in common.
Plus thats pretty much UKIPs main policy, after that, they havent got much going for them and they're not a very well run or organised party, only gaining votes from the death of labour which is why they are welcomed, as they are unlikely to succeed. Well, thats my opinion anyway

I may have understood this wrong, so correct me if I have.

UKIP's main policy revolves around the issue of the European Union.
They have a formulated manifesto, however, they believe every aspect of policy will improve upon leaving the EU.

They are a quite well organised party, that receives tonnes of votes in comparison to other smaller parties. They receive a majority of their votes from disgruntled Tory voters and Anti-EU Tory voters who believe it is safe to vote them on the Euro elections.

The BNP on the other hand, gain the majority of their votes from the disgruntled Labour voters. Their main policy revolves around the issue of Immigration and Integration. Theyhave a formulated manifesto, however, they believe every aspect of policy will improve upon controlling immigration and the removal of non-required immigrants.

[Marxist Nutter]

As far as names are concerned, I'd personally steer well clear of things with 'nationalist' or 'democratic' or 'popular' or similar in it, and would stick to a plain old "British Party" or something along those lines - not that I'm thinking of starting one I hasten to add.

Why not Midas? You have the resources to 'do a Berlursconi'!!!

Personally I am very wary (as we all should after NuLab) of any party hat claims to not have any ideology. I think it is like the media pretending to be objective. I'd rather the ideological/ subjective cards were on the table, plain to see and not swept under the carpet or denied. That would be honesty.

[Neo2012]

David Cameron called UKIP closet racists.

Though one Tory peer did ask people to vote UKIP if they were not going to vote mainstream.

Fair cop gov, you're right I'm wrong.

Think his comments are wrong.

[Midas]

Why not Midas? You have the resources to 'do a Berlursconi'!!!

Personally I am very wary (as we all should after NuLab) of any party hat claims to not have any ideology. I think it is like the media pretending to be objective. I'd rather the ideological/ subjective cards were on the table, plain to see and not swept under the carpet or denied. That would be honesty.

I don't have a deep enough interest in it to be honest. It's one thing to sit on the sidelines and comment and criticise, it's quite another to plunge right in and get stuck down in the pedantry and back-biting which is real life politics. I had enough of that some years ago when I was part of the organising committee within Mensa, and there there wasn't any of the rubbish and downright lies which other parties and the media constantly throw at you. I'm also far too prone to call a spade a spade, which I know many people appreciate, but the establishment doesn't!!

The trouble with having an ideology though is that it's rarely flexible, and whilst it might have been appropriate for the conditions at the time it was formulated, those conditions can change both rapidly and significantly, yet the party line on that particular matter tends to stay static.

[DC]

I don't have a deep enough interest in it to be honest. It's one thing to sit on the sidelines and comment and criticise, it's quite another to plunge right in and get stuck down in the pedantry and back-biting which is real life politics. I had enough of that some years ago when I was part of the organising committee within Mensa, and there there wasn't any of the rubbish and downright lies which other parties and the media constantly throw at you. I'm also far too prone to call a spade a spade, which I know many people appreciate, but the establishment doesn't!!

Gimme 6 years Midas, and then you and me can rule Britain, I'll handle the politics, you handle the funds

[Patriot1]

I may have understood this wrong, so correct me if I have.

UKIP's main policy revolves around the issue of the European Union.
They have a formulated manifesto, however, they believe every aspect of policy will improve upon leaving the EU.

They are a quite well organised party, that receives tonnes of votes in comparison to other smaller parties. They receive a majority of their votes from disgruntled Tory voters and Anti-EU Tory voters who believe it is safe to vote them on the Euro elections.

The BNP on the other hand, gain the majority of their votes from the disgruntled Labour voters. Their main policy revolves around the issue of Immigration and Integration. Theyhave a formulated manifesto, however, they believe every aspect of policy will improve upon controlling immigration and the removal of non-required immigrants.

Well they may gain votes from tories, but the fact is that they are pretty much a useless party untill they come to power and resign from the EU to be able to implement their policies.

[LA]

Well they may gain votes from tories, but the fact is that they are pretty much a useless party untill they come to power and resign from the EU to be able to implement their policies.

They are not a useless party.
They gain many seats in the European Parliament which provides additional opposition. In my view, they also put pressure on the Conservative Party to act on Europe.

[JacquesMagique]

Well they may gain votes from tories, but the fact is that they are pretty much a useless party untill they come to power and resign from the EU to be able to implement their policies.

About as useless as the BNP?

[Neo2012]

They are not a useless party.
They gain many seats in the European Parliament which provides additional opposition. In my view, they also put pressure on the Conservative Party to act on Europe.

Your right to defend a democratic party, from the fascists smear campaign.

[DC]

Your right to defend a democratic party, from the fascists smear campaign.

Neo, apart from a domino link back to a British Nazi party from the 30s, what proof do you have that the BNP are undemocratic?

IMO the UKIP is a one trick pony, anti-Europe and then make up the rest.

[Neo2012]

Neo, apart from a domino link back to a British Nazi party from the 30s, what proof do you have that the BNP are undemocratic?

try reading what I actually said

IMO the UKIP is a one trick pony, anti-Europe and then make up the rest.

pretty much like the fascists then

[Patriot1]

Your right to defend a democratic party, from the fascists smear campaign.

I assume you mean the BNP smear campaign. Campaign agaisnt what? UKIP?
If I remember correctly in an interview with Nick he stated the UKIP provide an alternative to the BNP which may have taken a potential number of votes from them. He offered to work with them but they turned down the offer.
He also said if you dont vote BNP then he'd rather see it go to UKIP than the mainstream parties.

Although I understand if I get critisied for this as I can't find the Youtube video I heard it on.

[DC]

You keep calling them fascist, the implication is they're undemocratic, which they're not.

[Neo2012]

You keep calling them fascist, the implication is they're undemocratic, which they're not.

And Hitler WAS a democrat, until elected.

Are the National Front democrats, or fascists?

[JacquesMagique]

You keep calling them fascist, the implication is they're undemocratic, which they're not.

Are the National Front democrats, or fascists?

They're not mutually exclusive.

[LA]

And Hitler WAS a democrat, until elected.

Are the National Front democrats, or fascists?

To correct you, Hitler made no lies about his being a dictator.
Germany knew they were electing a dictator.

[DC]

I'd also like to point out that Hitler never ran as a pro-Democracy candidate, he knew, the other Nazi's knew, everybody knew, that he was going to be a Dictator and nobody cared. Today, nobody's going to elect a dictator (dammit...), and the BNP have stated they're prod-Democracy, in fact they want to get rid of those new bloody anti-discrimination-with-words things. EXCEPT enticement to violence.

[Neo2012]

They're not mutually exclusive.

In power? I can't think of any examples of the fascist party that has come to power, and not closed down democracy.

Honest question. I would be interested in any illustrations of what you mean.

[DC]

fascist party

Tired of pointing this out Neo, the BNP aren't fascist, racist maybe but not fascist.

[Neo2012]

Tired of pointing this out Neo, the BNP aren't fascist, racist maybe but not fascist.

You've said it, but you aint even tried to convinced me.

[Neo2012]

To correct you, Hitler made no lies about his being a dictator.
Germany knew they were electing a dictator.

Are you being serious?

[DC]

Another point, 1933 Germany needed a dictator, The Weimer were crap, the country was on the verge of civil war, times like these you need a strong hand. And let's not pretend that Hitler's leadership was bad for the majority of Germans.

[Neo2012]

Another point, 1933 Germany needed a dictator, The Weimer were crap, the country was on the verge of civil war, times like these you need a strong hand. And let's not pretend that Hitler's leadership was bad for the majority of Germans.

Don't think the Germans would agree with you.

http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif

[DC]

Germans now? No, of course not, they're not starving and hiding from street battles. Germany was in an almost identical state Iraq was 2 years ago, without the international aid and huge debts. Hitler turned that around.

[savetheburgers]

The BNP's economic policies are the biggest joke ever. Protectionism and rebuilding the manufacturing base are a huge waste of time.

Quoted for truth.

[BNP=NAZI]

The BNP and other Far Right parties appeal to the baser instincts of humanity, not to those that seek to lift us above hatred and conflict.

Many BNPers will say, "We're not racist or fascist, we're nationalists" and claim the two are utterly different. Nationalism encompasses a broad range of political beliefs ranging from the totalitarian regime of Hitler to the peaceful independance seeking of Ghandi. Nationalism does actually include fascism and Nazism, which are extreme forms.

A Communist is always a Socialist but a Socialist is not always a Communist. The BNPer is always a Nationalist but a Nationalist is not always a fascist.

Many BNP supporters claim the BNP will ONLY remove illegal immigrants and failed asylum seekers. However it is the responsibility of ANY government to remove foreign nationals with no right to remain, so the BNP is merely stating they will uphold the law! However the term 'illegal immigrant' merely means someone who is illegally resident in a country. The BNP's Constitution states that they will make the UK as white as it was in 1948, moreover they do not recognise blacks or Asians as British. They would certainly change the law once elected to retroactively strip ethnic minorities of their British citizenship and render them 'racial foreigners'. Thus they would deport anyone THEY reclassified as an 'illegal immigrant', who might not be classified as such under the current law.

Please continue to spread the group's message by inviting your friends!

16th October 2008: Today will forever be a seminal date for this group - we have now reached 100,000 members!

2nd June 2009: Another milestone for we have now reached 200,000 members and the membership has been accelerating rapidly in recent weeks!

8th June 2009: A quarter of a million members the day after they won their two seats. A sign the British people will not tolerate the rise of fascism no matter what the circumstances. Well done people, we have grown by 50,000 members in 6 days.

20th June 2009: We've just passed the 500,000 members mark, this is incredible. Huge thanks to all for your continuing support and inviting your friends, family and colleagues - you make this group the success that it is.

Just in case you think we are being unfair in calling the BNP neo-Nazis and fascists, please read the below comparison. I've included some quotes so you can see what they stand for in their own words.
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Nazi Party
We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.

BNP
It believes that the indigenous peoples of the entire British Isles, and their descendants overseas, form a single brotherhood of peoples, and is pledged therefore to adapt or create political, cultural, economic and military institutions with the aim of fostering the closest possible partnership between these peoples.


Nazi Party
Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.

BNP
The British National Party stands for the preservation of the national and ethnic character of the British people and is wholly opposed to any form of racial integration between British and non-European peoples. BNP activists and writers should never refer to 'black Britons' or 'Asian Britons' etc, for the simple reason that such persons do not exist.

Nazi Party
Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.

BNP
It is therefore committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration and to restoring, by legal changes, negotiation and consent, the overwhelmingly white makeup of the British population that existed in Britain prior to 1948.

Nazi Party
We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press.

BNP
The BNP stands for the revolutionary principle that the printing presses and broadcast channels of the media must tell the truth in their reports.... we will create a new criminal offence of “The deliberate dissemination of falsehoods about an individual or organisation for financial or political gain” by any media outlet.

Nazi Party
All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.

BNP
A separate danger to genuine democracy comes from the concentration of ownership and control of the mass media in too few hands, particularly when the hands concerned are those of foreigners whose primary loyalty is not to Britain.

Fascism
An inherent aspect of fascist economies was an economy where the government exerts strong directive influence. Fascist economies were based on private property and private initiative, but these were contingent upon service to the state. Fascism opposes many capitalist tenets, such as support of free trade and free international movement of capital.

BNP
The British National Party is pledged to the maintenance of a private-enterprise economy operating within a broad framework of national economic policy. It is opposed to international monopoly capitalism and to laissez-faire free trade and free movement of plant and capital.

Fascism
Fascist movements oppose any ideology or political system that is deemed detrimental to national identity and unity, such as communism and laissez-faire capitalism.

BNP
The British National Party is implacably opposed to Marxism and liberal-capitalist globalism, which undermine our standard of living, human and ecological welfare, freedom and national identity.

Fascism
Fascism tends to promote principles of masculine heroism, militarism, and discipline; and rejects cultural pluralism and multiculturalism.

BNP
The compulsory National Service system....would begin at the age of 18 with a period of basic training in the army. This would include full training with the citizens’ assault rifle. Conscientious objectors who refuse to undertake military service would be allocated other constructive work for the community, but would NOT receive THE CITIZEN'S RIGHT TO BE ARMED, or THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
Even if.... it proved to be possible to assimilate and integrate huge numbers of immigrants from other ethnic and cultural groups into Western societies without mayhem and bloodshed, we would still oppose it.

MEMBERSHIP (Lifted from their earlier website, they have never retracted this however)
Membership of the party shall be open only to those who are 16 years of age or over and whose ethnic origin is listed within Sub-section 2 (ii) The Celtic Scottish Folk Community; iii) The Scots-Northern Irish Folk Community; iv) The Celtic Welsh Folk Community; v) The Celtic Irish Folk Community; vi) The Celtic Cornish Folk Community; vii) The Anglo-Saxon-Celtic Folk Community; viii) The Celtic-Norse Folk Community; ix) The Anglo-Saxon-Norse Folk Community; x) The Anglo-Saxon-Indigenous European Folk Community; xi) Members of these ethnic groups who reside either within or outside Europe but ethnically derive from them.)<-----That's white to you and me.


"[t]he British National Party’s determination not simply to stop any further mass immigration into the British Isles, but also to reverse the tide which has transformed vast areas of our country out of all recognition over the last fifty years. We, as the sole political representatives of the Silent Majority of the English, Scots, Irish and Welsh who formed and were formed by our island home, have one overriding demand: We want our country back!"

"We would repeal the Race Relations Acts and all other restrictions on free speech in Britain.... We would abolish all departments, agencies, or other units of government whose sole and specific purpose is to deal with ethnic issues, grievances, or crimes.... We would abolish all laws against racial discrimination in employment and the government bodies associated with enforcing them."

"A Clause 28-style proscription against the promotion of racial integration in schools and the media would be introduced."

"This wicked, vicious faith has expanded from a handful of cranky lunatics about 1,300 years ago, to it's now sweeping country after country before it, all over the world. And if you read that book (the Koran), you'll find that that's what they want." - Nick Griffin, 2006

"It is more important to control the streets of a city than its council chamber." - Nick Griffin, 1996

“The electors of Millwall did not back a post-modernist Rightist Party, but what they perceived to be a strong, disciplined organisation with the ability to back up its slogan “Defend Rights for Whites’ with well-directed boots and fists. When the crunch comes, POWER IS THE PRODUCT OF FORCE AND WILL, NOT OF RATIONAL DEBATE.” - Nick Griffin

"I am only going to represent the white people. I WILL NOT REPRESENT ASIANS. I will not do anything for them. They have no right to be in my great country." - Derek Beackon, 1993

"When we get to power OUR OPPONENTS WILL BE SWEPT AWAY like flies." - John Tyndall in his founding statement 1976

"Very few people in Britain are aware of the huge influence over the mass media exercised by a certain ethnic minority, namely the Jews." - Nick Griffin, 1999

“The controllers of Hollywood, almost entirely Jewish. Some 'ANTI-SEMITISM' MAY BE PROVOKED BY THE ACTIONS OF CERTAIN JEWS THEMSELVES and thereby have a RATIONAL BASIS”. - Nick Griffin

"There is no doubt that hundreds, probably thousands of Jews were shot to death in Eastern Europe, because they were rightly or wrongly seen as communists or potential partisan supporters. That was awful. But THIS NONSENSE ABOUT GAS CHAMBERS is exposed as a total lie." - Nick Griffin, 1997,YouTube - Nick Griffin, Cook Report, 1997

"[t]his BLOODY JEW [Alex Carlile MP] whose only claim is that his grandparents died in the Holocaust." - Nick Griffin, May 1998

"There's not a European country the Jews haven't been thrown out of. When it happens that many times, it's not just persecution. THERE'S NO SMOKE WITHOUT FIRE." - Mark Collett

"Without the White race nothing matters [other right-wing parties] believe that the answer to the race question is integration and a futile attempt to create "Black Britons", while we affirm that NON-WHITES HAVE NO PLACE HERE AT ALL AND WILL NOT REST UNTIL EVERY LAST ONE HAS LEFT OUR LAND." - Nick Griffin

"Yes, Adolf went a bit too far. His legacy is the biggest problem that the British nationalist movement has to deal with. It just creates a bad image." - Nick Griffin

"There is a STRONG, DIRECT LINK from Oswald Mosley to me." - Nick Griffin

“The TV footage of dozens of ‘gay’ demonstrators flaunting their perversions in front of the world’s journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these CREATURES so repulsive.” - Nick Griffin after the Soho bombings, 1999

"Churchill was a ****ing **** who led us into a pointless war with other whites [the Nazis] standing up for their race." - Mark Collett

"He's a ****ing traitor." - Mark Collett on the Prince of Wales

"The Royals have betrayed their people. When we're in power they'll be WIPED OUT and we'll get some Germans to rule properly." - Mark Collett

"A FRIENDLY DISEASE because blacks, drug users and gays have it." - Mark Collett on AIDS

"Hitler will live forever; and maybe I will." - Mark Collett

"The sick minds who would have us believe that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz are completely twisted." - Tony Lecomber

"Asians are rubbish, and that is what WE ARE GOING TO CLEAR FROM THE STREETS." - Derek Beackon

"Those responsible for creating this multi-racial hell hole must face trial and pay the ultimate penalty." - Nick Griffin

"AIDS Monkeys.... bum bandits.... faggots." - Mark Collett on homosexuals

"Racial laws will be enacted FORBIDDING MARRIAGE between Britons and non-Aryans: medical measures will be taken to prevent procreation on the part of all those who have hereditary defects either racial, mental or physical." - John Tyndall

"Mein Kampf is my Bible." - John Tyndall

"[t]here will be an unanswerable case when the day for the great clean up comes, to IMPLEMENT THE FINAL SOLUTION against these sub-human elements by means of the GAS CHAMBERS" - John Tyndall

"There's a difference between selling out your ideas and selling your ideas. And the British National Party isn't about selling out it's ideas, which are your ideas, but we are determined now to sell them. And that means basically to use these salable words.
As I say, 'freedom', 'security', 'identity', 'democracy', nobody can criticise them, nobody can come at you and attack you on those ideas: they are salable. Perhaps one day, once by being rather more subtle, we got ourselves into a position where we control the British broadcasting media, then perhaps one day the British people might change their minds and say, 'Yes, every last one must go'. Perhaps they will one day, but if you offer that as your soul mate to start with, you're going to get absolutely nowhere. So, INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT RACIAL PURITY WE TALK ABOUT IDENTITY." - Nick Griffin addressing the Ku Klux Klan

"Voluntary repatriation. Isn't that EASIER TO SELL than compulsory repatriation for all?" - Nick Griffin

"I honestly don't hate asylum seekers - THESE PEOPLE ARE COCKROACHES *and they're doing what cockroaches do because cockroaches can't help what they do, they just do it, like cats miaow and dogs bark." - Mark Collett *This is what the Hutus in Rwanda called the Tutsis of which 800,000-1 million were killed

"Well apparently didn't they get a lot of dentistry and plastic surgery."
- Rotherham BNP's Marlene Guest, referring to horrific Nazi experiments on Jews and others during World War II.

"We don't subscribe to the politically correct fiction that just because they happen to be born in Britain, a Pakistani is a Briton. They're not. They remain of Pakistani stock. You can't say that especially large numbers of people can come from the rest of the world and assume an English identity without denying the English their own identity, and I would say that's wrong. In a very subtle way, it's a sort of bloodless genocide." - Nick Griffin, 23 April 2009

"The idea that the Black African Bishop Sentamu, the Asian Muslim MP Shahid Malik, the part-Turkish Boris Johnson and the Jewish Lord Goldsmith have anything to teach the indigenous English about St. Georges Day is absurd." - John Lee Barnes

"When these Asians go out looking for a victim, they don't go looking for Asian victims. They don't go mugging Asian grandmas, they don't go stabbing each other, they don't go trying to solicit sex off little Pritesh or little Sanjita, they go straight to the whites because they are trying to destroy us and they are the racists." - Mark Collett

“All black people will be repatriated, even if they were born here. ” - Nick Griffin

"Black culture is totally inimical to the mental and spiritual development of young white people, encouraging laziness, lack of ambition in worthy pursuits, preoccupation with the trivial and the banal, appalling manners and absence of respect for others". - John Tyndall

"WHITE WORKING CLASS SCUM will be swept away by a future BNP government." - BNP councillor Simon Smith

"THE RICH ARE GENETICALLY SUPERIOR TO THE POOR." - Tony Lecomber

"I'm no apologist for WHITE WORKING CLASS SCUM." - BNP councillor Simon Smith

"Rest assured, all those HOMEGROWN TRATORS who have taken part in the war against our indigenous rights will one day be held to account for their crimes." - Nick Griffin-2009

“I want to see Britain become the 99 per cent genetically white country she was just eleven years before I was born, and I want to die knowing that I have helped to set her on a course whereby her future genetic makeup will one day not even resemble that of January 1948, but that of July 1914. Nothing will ever turn me from working towards that final vision.” - Nick Griffin

"Rape is simply sex. Women enjoy sex, so rape cannot be such a terrible physical ordeal... [it] is like suggesting force-feeding a woman chocolate cake is a heinous offence." - Nick Eriksen-2005

"Honestly now, would you prefer your kid growing up in Oldham and Burnley or 1930's Germany? It would be better for your child to grow up there." - Mark Collett

"Meanwhile, the indigenous side in the low-to-medium level civil war brewing in this country is getting its training. . .Its all going to get very messy." - Nick Griffin's blog on the BNP website, 2009

"It's clearly worth talking in terms of SIX-FIGURE SUMS to persuade families to go"- Nick Griffin, the Times, April 19, 2007

“We live in a country today which is unhealthily dominated by an EXCESS OF SENTIMENTALITY TOWARDS THE WEAK AND UNPRODUCTIVE. No good will come of it.” -Jeffrey Marshall (senior organiser for the BNP’s London European election campaign), 2009 after the death of Ivan Cameron.

“There is not a great deal of point in keeping these people alive after all.” Jeffrey Marshall again referring to Ivan Cameron.

"The capitalist free traders, the Marxists and organised Jewry have declared war on the white man, not just in Britain but in every nation on the planet". - Nick Griffin

"We don't think the most overcrowded country in Europe, can realistically say, 'Look, you can all come and all your relatives'. When the Gurkhas signed up - frankly as mercenaries - they expected a pension which would allow them to live well in their own country." - Nick Griffin, 12 May 2009

"the only measure, sooner or later, which is going to stop immigration and stop large numbers of sub-Saharan Africans dying on the way to get over here is to get very tough with those coming over. Frankly, they need to sink several of those boats." Nick Griffin speaking on The Record Europe, 8th July 2009.

Nick Griffin addressing a KKK meeting
YouTube - Griffin tells KKK plan to "sell" nazi BNP as "democratic" - then smash democracy

Nick Griffin denying the Holocaust on the Cook Report
YouTube - Nick Griffin, Cook Report, 1997

Nick Griffin denying he denied the Holocaust on the Cook Report
YouTube - Nick Griffin, denying the denial

The BNP canvassing for the EU and council elections 2009.
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The BNP's organiser admits that membership is limited to white Europeans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuyLV...layer_embedded
Marlene Guest repeating the claims of 'Did Six Million Really Die?', a Holocaust denial book by Richard Verrall of the National Front. It's been thoroughly refuted by historians and claims things such as the Holocaust is used as a tool to exterminate the 'white race': Did Six Million Really Die? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sky News expose on the BNP: YouTube - Sky News on the British National Party

[Patriot1]

Whether the BNP have underlying racist tones or not, you cannot assume the BNP are going to change laws to be able to deport immigrants.

They are certainly not going to send anyone to concerntration camps or invade europe so calling them Nazi is completely out of order.

I also find your name offensive.