Congratulations to the BNP for saying no to a liar

[newspresenter]

A Times reporter was asked to leave the BNP membership press conference on sunday because he wrote one too many lies, he refused to leave, that gave BNP security no option but to escort him out.

The BNP should be congratualted for standing up against liars.



Of course, the mass media will spin it to make it sound like BNP thugs kick journalist. I personally don't read everything on the BNP website, but the amount of times (no pun intended) ive come accross blatant lies reported in the Times newspaper, you could fill it its that many.

[DougieG]

A Times reporter was asked to leave the BNP membership press conference on sunday because he wrote one too many lies, he refused to leave, that gave BNP security no option but to escort him out.

The BNP should be congratualted for standing up against liars.



Of course, the mass media will spin it to make it sound like BNP thugs kick journalist. I personally don't read everything on the BNP website, but the amount of times (no pun intended) ive come accross blatant lies reported in the Times newspaper, you could fill it its that many.

The BNP oppose freedom of the press. Fascism

[MarkMuses]

Completely agree. Of course the NUJ requires its members to report with bias against the BNP. Such is the state of our democracy, but it is quite amusing that the party has had enough of the worst of them. As Blackadder once said "God the Times has gone downhill"

[JacquesMagique]

Press intimidation, a sign of how things would be under a BNP government.

[MarkMuses]

Press intimidation, a sign of how things would be under a BNP government.

"Would" vs "in place right now". Not a very strong argument stacking speculation up against NuLabFascism in operation anyway.

[JacquesMagique]

"Would" vs "in place right now". Not a very strong argument stacking speculation up against NuLabFascism in operation anyway.

Why is it that anybody who criticises the BNP is assumed to be a supporter of the current government?

[MarkMuses]

Why is it that anybody who criticises the BNP is assumed to be a supporter of the current government?

There was no implication. You have introduced it. I merely pointed out the relativity involved. If your worst case is true, and that is a distinct "if" it makes a poor comparison to what is now blatantly being done by the Government of the day. They are effectively trying to dictate via their EHRC quango what an opposing political party's policy may be. We have fascism here and now. So pardon me if I think a punt on the BNP looks virtually essential if democracy in any real form is to survive.

[The Untalented Mr Ripley]

A Times reporter was asked to leave the BNP membership press conference on sunday because he wrote one too many lies, he refused to leave, that gave BNP security no option but to escort him out.

The BNP should be congratualted for standing up against liars.



Of course, the mass media will spin it to make it sound like BNP thugs kick journalist. I personally don't read everything on the BNP website, but the amount of times (no pun intended) ive come accross blatant lies reported in the Times newspaper, you could fill it its that many.

A picture is worth a thousand words: Nick Griffin says ejecting Dominic Kennedy proves party is not 'soft' - Times Online.

[DC]

What lies did this guy write? Are there any links? Or were they watching over his shoulder at what notes he was taking down?

[newspresenter]

Dominic is a fool, you can't expect to work for a company that lies about people and expect them to love you. His response is exactly the attitude that created the lies in the first place.

I doubt Dominic would accept lies about him.

[newspresenter]

YouTube - BNP votes to allow black and Asian members
I still can't stop laughing everytime i see it, its like something we used to see at school, there was always a Mr Gilbert type who didn't stand any nonsense from the naughty school boy (Dominic) who wrote graffiti in the toilets, or in Dominic and The Times case, printed graffiti. The BNP should send his parents a letter of warning and give him 1000 lines - i must not print graffiti lies.

[Midas]

NP, we might take a little more notice if you were to point out exactly where the lies that the reporter is supposed to have written are! And surely, if his paper published lies, the BNP would have been reaching for their lawyers before now, but I see no sign of that - are you certain you're not mixing up an inconvenient truth with a lie?

[coalition]

Who is really interested in these junior pseudo Nazi's, their collaborators and, much more dangerous big brothers, murder innocent people at peaceful demonstrations.

[newspresenter]

The lies were reported on the BNP website, i havn't the time to go scralling through the mountains of reports. Trying emailling them?

[Neo2012]

A picture is worth a thousand words: Nick Griffin says ejecting Dominic Kennedy proves party is not 'soft' - Times Online.

yes indeed it does. So much for freedom of speech.

And here nick Griffin talks about when he controls the media, how the British people may then call for all foreigners to leave this country.
YouTube - Nick Griffin's ex-KKK pals

[MarkMuses]

yes indeed it does. So much for freedom of speech.

And here nick Griffin talks about when he controls the media, how the British people may then call for all foreigners to leave this country.
YouTube - Nick Griffin's ex-KKK pals

I've seen this before and it still rankles with me, because it sounds like swapping one tyrant for another. "When we control the media". Who is "we" precisely I wonder?

The trouble for me is. I know there won't a be a Britain to even worry about as things are headed. So lesser of two evils maybe. Also this is a decade ago. I might have since discovered just how precious democracy is.

[Neo2012]

I've seen this before and it still rankles with me, because it sounds like swapping one tyrant for another. "When we control the media". Who is "we" precisely I wonder?

The trouble for me is. I know there won't a be a Britain to even worry about as things are headed. So lesser of two evils maybe. Also this is a decade ago. I might have since discovered just how precious democracy is.

Did you mean to say, he might have since discovered just how precious democracy is?

I have to say I think I owe you an apology. Sorry.

I think I jumped to some wrong conclusions about where you came from, and though I still disagree with much of what you say, you are far more thoughtful and analytical than I presumed you were at first .

[MarkMuses]

Did you mean to say, he might have since discovered just how precious democracy is?

I have to say I think I owe you an apology. Sorry.

I think I jumped to some wrong conclusions about where you came from, and though I still disagree with much of what you say, you are far more thoughtful and analytical than I presumed you were at first .

Yes I did mean "he". Typo there, apols. Conclusions are easy to jump to. I'll no doubt disconcert you again, but I can't help that. I believe I am consistent in my position although it is not a common one.

[coalition]

NP, we might take a little more notice if you were to point out exactly where the lies that the reporter is supposed to have written are! And surely, if his paper published lies, the BNP would have been reaching for their lawyers before now, but I see no sign of that - are you certain you're not mixing up an inconvenient truth with a lie?

And the Grantham corner shop ike also thought she was the Queen - mad bad and dangerous

[Midas]

And the Grantham corner shop ike also thought she was the Queen - mad bad and dangerous

What's that got to do with anything?

[Neo2012]

Yes I did mean "he". Typo there, apols. Conclusions are easy to jump to. I'll no doubt disconcert you again, but I can't help that. I believe I am consistent in my position although it is not a common one.

so do you have any evidence to suggest he has learned how precious democracy is, and rescinded his previous claims that the politicians of today would pay the ultimate price on radio Wales?

Don't get me wrong, if you have, I would love to see it. It would take a weight off my mind.

[MarkMuses]

so do you have any evidence to suggest he has learned how precious democracy is, and rescinded his previous claims that the politicians of today would pay the ultimate price on radio Wales?

Don't get me wrong, if you have, I would love to see it. It would take a weight off my mind.

No I haven't. Only that it is a decade old quote. Still, I would be happy to see him grilled in a one to one hour long prime time interview with Paxman. Sadly the UAF would kick up a storm of protest wouldn't they?

Also with so much attention focused on the far right I consider it very very odd that so many labour ministers past and present have in their own personal past been members of far left groups. Neither the far left nor the far right have a good record on democracy.

[British]

The BNP oppose freedom of the press. Fascism

You know better than that, Dougie!
The BNP take it on the chin many times, just like anyone. But freedom of press this isn't. Press is an account of things. This is fiction using real people and real places.

[coalition]

It is from Society, which Thatcher stated there was no such thing as, that she sedulously took our money, jobs and NHS and still enjoys an enormous income from the 'society' she claimed did not exist, even that poor quote is way beyond her - sounds more Walker than Thatcher.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

It is from Society, which Thatcher stated there was no such thing as, that she sedulously took our money, jobs and NHS and still enjoys an enormous income from the 'society' she claimed did not exist, even that poor quote is way beyond her - sounds more Walker than Thatcher.

Hi,

my word you do have hangups!

That was almost 20 years ago - just look at the irreprable damage done to our society by the present venal shower - from the very day the vile Blair and his ghastly make believe doxy came to power not one benefit has accrued to Britain or its peoples in their gadarene dash to the Common Purpose communism of Fabianesque international socialism.

What your comments have to do with the thread topic rather puzzles me but it is quite clear you will sedulously sharpen your axe and balance your chips - could it be from habit? As there is no reason to believe it is from reason or logic!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

You know better than that, Dougie!
The BNP take it on the chin many times, just like anyone. But freedom of press this isn't. Press is an account of things. This is fiction using real people and real places.

Hi,

firstly 'Freedom of the Press' is and always has been a myth if perceived as nothing more than accurate balance.

Secondly I know of no Press that has freedom as ALL have the primary purpose of either funded propaganda OR profit making.

The Press are NOT there for the people they are there for the shareholders and without very astute management they prove a huge and dangerous way to lose immense amounts of money.

The minority groups have ALWAYS claimed unfair treatment by the meeeja - largely because they fail to realise that meeeja makes its money by circulation figures NOT by sales and circulation figures are not well served by scribblings whether bland or accurate about minority political groups they are enhanced by articles PANDERING to large groups to gain circulation.

The income of a paper is dependent on their ABC rating as on that they can set advertising rates.

Do also remember that the SOLE income of a paper is from advertising as the cover price barely covers distribution.

How much advertising does The BNP or the Greens or EUkip or the like do? Yeah, not much!

On the other hand the largest single advertising budget in Britain is that of the Government and just watch the massive escalation in expenditure by the Government between now and the election - it will not be overt 'We Love Liebour' but rather 'Labour Brought You The No Smoking Ban which has saved X lives' (conveniently overlooking the catastrophy to the exchequer of the lost taxes and the closed pubs!).

I for one am glad the vile extremist Racist and anti Jewish BNP get little or no publicity for their sordid party which represents absolutely no values an ethical, moral British Patriot would or could be proud of.

I am interested that the odious Griffin tried to cash in on a populist reaction to Murdoch - who has been chastised by every party in Britain at one time or another! Perhaps he would care to advise in what way the Murdoch press has lied about his vile racist, xenophobic, anti Jewish little claque - perhaps he could use the Murdoch press to explain why The BNP has never renounced its early association and foundation funding in the White Extremist Militant American groups and their advocacy of and pleasure in the ritual killing for entertainment of some 3>5,000 mostly young men based upon colour.

These killings for fun the BNP have refused to renounce include cruxifiction, burning alive, lynching, dragging & shooting mainly - how do supporters justify supporting such behaviour that goes on to this day unrenounced by The BNP or its leadership.

Pardon my interest in your private shame but I'm sure the Murdoch Press would love to publish your attempts to justify and defend the obscenely unjustifiable and indefensible BNP.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

[Neo2012]

No I haven't. Only that it is a decade old quote.

fair enough, just hoping you had.

Still, I would be happy to see him grilled in a one to one hour long prime time interview with Paxman. Sadly the UAF would kick up a storm of protest wouldn't they?

As is their freedom. Freedom cuts both ways.

[coalition]

White Racist murders in the US were all about the abuse of freedom, UNFETTERED FREEDOM is the destruction of any community, per example the financial freedom of the City, the lack of oversight on MPs, local government, police, security services and quangos.
Above all, if there is one single failure of this labour gov. trash, it is their ignorance and lack of moral courage to properly manage the trust they were granted, to cherish the UK and its people - all of its people. Had they carried out this duty of care the BNP would not be an issue.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

White Racist murders in the US were all about the abuse of freedom, UNFETTERED FREEDOM is the destruction of any community, per example the financial freedom of the City, the lack of oversight on MPs, local government, police, security services and quangos.
Above all, if there is one single failure of this labour gov. trash, it is their ignorance and lack of moral courage to properly manage the trust they were granted, to cherish the UK and its people - all of its people. Had they carried out this duty of care the BNP would not be an issue.

Hi,

may I add that when this Government came to Power elected by a minority of the electorate just like The Nazi Party they immediately commenced enacting law by way of 'payolla' to those who had funded them such as Stonewall and ALF & ALA, they then enacted law to suit them can anyone identify laws they enacted of common gain to the British peoples.

Such that they may have enacted were an irrelevance in the light of their betrayal of Britain and involvement in war crimes. Not of course to mention the 400 tons of gold sold by Brown at £250 or less when EVERYONE in banking KNEW it was about to boom.

Yes Labour eradicated Boom & Bust - you will note they substituted Bust and Bankrupt having increased borrowing/debt by £ONE TRILLION!

Now of course it couldn't matter less who you vote for as it is as so well defined by Labour - The Post Democratic Era - where Westminster has no say & we are directly ruled by the undemocratic and corrupt EU with the dishonest assistance of a Rubber Stamping Office at west minster.

Don't vote tribally vote INDEPENDENT.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

[DougieG]

may I add that when this Government came to Power elected by a minority of the electorate just like The Nazi Party they immediately commenced enacting law by way of 'payolla' to those who had funded them such as Stonewall and ALF & ALA, they then enacted law to suit them can anyone identify laws they enacted of common gain to the British peoples.

The HRA, which has a common consensus among lawyers and academics as having been vitally necessary and important, and generally very effective. It has also stood as a great power to stop the Labour government from overstepping the bounds of its power without facing the political consequences.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

The HRA, which has a common consensus among lawyers and academics as having been vitally necessary and important, and generally very effective. It has also stood as a great power to stop the Labour government from overstepping the bounds of its power without facing the political consequences.

Hi,

fair try - though why you would trust such a corrupt body as lawyers and academic theorists who are beyond doubt some of the least informed and most propagandised individuals ever to risk peering out of their bubble I know not.

The HRA was NOT enacted by this present Government it was imposed on it as all major legislation is - by membership of the malign undemocratic and unaccountable EU which imposes 80% of all law for rubber stamping at Westminster whilst the balance 20% must by treaty law be compliant with EU diktat.

Regards,
Greg L-W.