Racists vow to 'rape and kill' white world cup fans

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A VILE Facebook campaign to incite race hate ahead of the World Cup in South Africa in June is being investigated by police.


The official probe was launched into a group set up by alleged supporters of firebrand politician Julius Malema.
One entry, emailed to football fans around the world, calls for the “rape and slaughter” of whites and the murder of President Jacob Zuma.
In a chilling message a Malema “fan” called Thato Mbateti Mbateti warns: “Every trespasser, namely white whores, we will rape them and kill them... White kids will be burned.”
The campaign comes amid growing tensions in South Africa after the murder of white supremacist Eugene Terreblanche.
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Flipping heck, if you didn't think it was bad enough what with all the problems over there, guns etc, can't imagine many will be looking forward to it much now...

[Kiwi 1691]

The only people in South Africa that I have heard about threatening violence in regards to the world cup are the followers of the late white supremacist Eugene Terre'Blanche

[The Untalented Mr Ripley]

The only people in South Africa that I have heard about threatening violence in regards to the world cup are the followers of the late white supremacist Eugene Terre'Blanche

Its not really threatened violence that should concern anyone thinking of visiting South Africa, is the actual violence: NationMaster - South African Crime statistics.

No doubt such statistics would be greeted by the standard ANC response that any response from western nations is racist.

[Midas]

The only people in South Africa that I have heard about threatening violence in regards to the world cup are the followers of the late white supremacist Eugene Terre'Blanche

There speaks someone who's never been to any part of Africa and seen for himself the way that a significant majority of blacks behave. A huge amount of the most violent racism occurs between different black African tribes, a lot of which then spills over into the white communities, despite the latter being the people who generally represent the driving force behind the economies of virtually all black Africa, especially South Africa. Without the whites being there, that country would simply be another poor third world one, most likely on a par with places like Zimbabwe where black racism and black socialism have driven out virtually everyone who amounts to anything.

[Kiwi 1691]

There speaks someone who's never been to any part of Africa and seen for himself the way that a significant majority of blacks behave. A huge amount of the most violent racism occurs between different black African tribes, a lot of which then spills over into the white communities, despite the latter being the people who generally represent the driving force behind the economies of virtually all black Africa, especially South Africa. Without the whites being there, that country would simply be another poor third world one, most likely on a par with places like Zimbabwe where black racism and black socialism have driven out virtually everyone who amounts to anything.

Midas, I have close friends from both South Africa and Zimbabwe, so don't ever speak like that to me.

[pauli007001]

There speaks someone who's never been to any part of Africa and seen for himself the way that a significant majority of blacks behave. A huge amount of the most violent racism occurs between different black African tribes, a lot of which then spills over into the white communities, despite the latter being the people who generally represent the driving force behind the economies of virtually all black Africa, especially South Africa. Without the whites being there, that country would simply be another poor third world one, most likely on a par with places like Zimbabwe where black racism and black socialism have driven out virtually everyone who amounts to anything.

South Africa is only a small step behind Zimbabwe in its attempts to remove long standing farmers from their land, some who have farmed that land for nearly 400 years and are still not regarded by the socialists in power as African???

[pauli007001]

Midas, I have close friends from both South Africa and Zimbabwe, so don't ever speak like that to me.

Perhaps you should ask them to explain what is happening to white farmers in those nations then?

Why it is happening may also be a fun little question.

[Kiwi 1691]

Perhaps you should ask them to explain what is happening to white farmers in those nations then?

Why it is happening may also be a fun little question.

I know alot about what happened, but people like Midas appearing to support the Violent White Supremacists are just as bad.

[DC]

Well, a solution maybe to facilitate a small whites only homeland within South Africa. South Africa has ironically gone the other way and almost, if it hasn't already, returned to its Apartheid status. Violent crime is extremely high, and face it, it isn't the whites committing these crimes. Whites are being pushed out of South Africa, and the Government in charge seems to be at least passive in preventing this, and seems more interested in making sure at least the white wealth stays in SA.

[Midas]

Midas, I have close friends from both South Africa and Zimbabwe, so don't ever speak like that to me.

Ooh, touchy! I also have friends from both countries and have been to South Africa myself on more than one occasion and actually seen what happens there, not just read about it in some distorted media report or other. My son's girlfriend is from Zimbabwe, her father was one of those white farmers who was so appallingly treated by the black racist thugs there, so can relate plenty of first hand experience - fortunately they were able to get out and move to Australia whilst they could still sell their farm, unlike many, many others.

I can only conclude from your comment that you simply don't want to believe that black people can actually be racist, or is it that you'd rather just get angry because pointing out real life doesn't fit with your socialist views?

I know alot about what happened, but people like Midas appearing to support the are just as bad.

Since when did stating a truism, that black Africans are racists, equate to my even implying I supported Violent White Supremacists? Get real and think about what people say, and certainly about what you fire back in reply!

[pauli007001]

I know alot about what happened, but people like Midas appearing to support the Violent White Supremacists are just as bad.

Midas never once made any statement in support of white supremacists, you telling the whoppers again Kiwi, typical socialist totalitarian tactics at work, any person who disagrees must be labelled and accused......

Zimbabwe and South Africa are two nations whose governments are acting in a manner very simlar to Hitler in the early days after the Nazis being elected into power in Germany.Genocide appears to be the primary objective of the ANC in SA and of Mugabe in Zimbabwe.

Pity tp see such nice plces filled with mostly good folks beind destroyed in this evil manner.

[Kiwi 1691]

Zimbabwe and South Africa are two nations whose governments are acting in a manner very simlar to Hitler in the early days after the Nazis being elected into power in Germany.Genocide appears to be the primary objective of the ANC in SA and of Mugabe in Zimbabwe.

South Africa was just as bad when the white supremacists ran it. Genocide, really I'd call it a violent society in South Africa Pauli. High murder rates don't equal Genocide Pauli.

[DC]

South Africa was just as bad when the white supremacists ran it. Genocide, really I'd call it a violent society in South Africa Pauli. High murder rates don't equal Genocide Pauli.

But ethnic cleansing perhaps. It's no secret that both Governments want to minimise the white presence in their nations, and are at least passively pushing white people off their land and out of the country. Mugabe is actively seeking it, and I wouldn't be surprised if he goes as far as to expel whites outright. The ANC for their part is at least passive in combating the racism against whites, and in some cases actively seeks to push whites out.

[Jim Franklin]

Perhaps everyone should speak to those from the country and not read the bile that is printed in Snoozepapers that talk male genitals.

Over on another forum I use we have been discussing this with people who are actually in SA, and the majority of my former colleagues who I still talk too are from SA (Black and White).

Yes the situation in SA is bad, and it is possible that a charismatic leader could ignite tensions, but SA is not there yet and the idea that the ANC are trying to drive whites out of the country is daft when they are offering incentives to stay..they recognise that the whites (rightly or wrongly) are a large part of the key that will allow the rebuilding of the SA economy.

It is never wise to speculate on national matters unless you have input from those directly involved in matters there.

Could SA collapse and iterate into chaos, of course it could and it is the most likely of nations to do it, but this is at least a decade away when the old leadership of the ANC has been replaced by more extremist leaders. But the vast majority of blacks in the country do not support the extreme elements in the ANC, they are simply hard working people struggling to feed their families now they have realised that ending white rule did not end black strife.

As the BLACK Police chief said...

"Crime is crime, it does not matter if the perpetrator is Black or White or the victim is Black or White, it is a crime against South Africans to kill anyone and we will do all we are able to do to bring people to justice when they abuse the laws of South Africa, Nobody is allowed to commit a crime in South Africa, but the laws of South Africa allow you to have guns and there are procedures to own them. Last year alone, 18 000 people were killed in the country, but I do not have a breakdown on how many were black and how many were white, We are working hard to reduce crime. Any killing is a senseless killing in South Africa

[pauli007001]

South Africa was just as bad when the white supremacists ran it. Genocide, really I'd call it a violent society in South Africa Pauli. High murder rates don't equal Genocide Pauli.

Crime was always a fact of life in SA, during Aparthied it was blamed on Aparhied, it has increased since.Today the number of white farmers murdered in their homes has reached astonomical numbers, the government and police do little to prevent it, Many in SA are sickened by this, africans who are of all races.
Government encouraging the killing of selected races is in fact genocide.

To call the aparhied government of SA and rhodesia white supremacists is ridiculous, they offered a seperate but equal system( which i disagreed with) but they did not generally believe that the white race was superior(a nesessity for a white supremacist).I guess that today Zimbabwe and south Africa are run by Black Supremacists using your logic??

[Kiwi 1691]

Crime was always a fact of life in SA, during Aparthied it was blamed on Aparhied, it has increased since.Today the number of white farmers murdered in their homes has reached astonomical numbers, the government and police do little to prevent it, Many in SA are sickened by this, africans who are of all races.
Government encouraging the killing of selected races is in fact genocide.

A couple thousand white farmers have been killed in SA since 1994, I have seen numbers as high as 640,000 people murdered since 1994. A couple thousand farmers killed doesn't equal genocide when you look at how many murders there are in total. Though trust Pauli to only care about the white murder victims.

[Jim Franklin]

A couple thousand white farmers have been killed in SA since 1994, I have seen numbers as high as 640,000 people murdered since 1994. A couple thousand farmers killed doesn't equal genocide when you look at how many murders there are in total. Though trust Pauli to only care about the white murder victims.

Here we go for clarity.

In the years since the ending of apartheid the violence in the nation has spiralled, with many forces simply overwhelmed and apparently unable or unwilling to intercede in many instances. Many murders are tribal in nature and these form the largest proportion of murders in the ten years from 1998 to 2008, this is closely followed by murders related to robbery ard other violent crime.

The National Criminal Statistics Group has compiled the following data; this covers the period from January 1998 to December 2008

Total Murders (not including manslaughter or attempted murder) 211,584
White Murders: 54,113
Black Murders: 125,872
Other Races:31,599

White on Black Murders: 15,845
White on White Murders: 7,541
White on Other Murders: 584

Black on White Murders: 46,437
Black on Black Murders: 125,446
Black on Other Murders:

Other on Other Murders: 30,998
Other on White Murders: 135
Other on Black Murders: 426

Murders committed during a Robbery or other criminal act: 42,457 (Inc; Robbery, Burglary, Drug related crime and smuggling operations)
Murders committed during domestic violence: 48,913
Murders committed for political or tribal reasons: 94,479
Murders unclassified: 25,735

I think these statistics give a sobering view of what is going on in SA.

[pauli007001]

A couple thousand white farmers have been killed in SA since 1994, I have seen numbers as high as 640,000 people murdered since 1994. A couple thousand farmers killed doesn't equal genocide when you look at how many murders there are in total. Though trust Pauli to only care about the white murder victims.

This is not about who I care about this is about fact.Note how you imply that I am a racist(typical socialist tactic, disagree with us and we will abuse you , insult you or kill you, if we cant do this we will call you a racist.

I have two Kids to my Ex wife, she was an african from Zambia, that makes my kids MIXED RACE, do I still only care about white victims?

How thick a person must be to hurl such a statement without looking into the history of the person they are accusing of racism, you now officially look very stupid, I have stated my kids racial makup on this forum on a dozen occasions, as has dougie, in a post you thanked..............

Oh dear oh dear.

Now a couple of thousand white farmers..........That meaning FARM OWNERS in printed statistics, now lets see deaths of white farm workers, Coloured farmers and farm workers(coloured in SA refers to any who are neither white or black or Bushman, before you accuse me of using racist language). Letsa then look at the treatment of the Bushmen by the current SA government.

You will note that i specifically stated that the governments quiet encouragment of violence against Whites, coloureds and Bushmen is as horrific to the vast majority of people in SA, people of all races Amazing how you see what you want to and ignore the facts.
The race murder rates in SA are far more than 2000 since 1994, they are only considered murders if the govt disaproove of them, or he landowner is of some wealth.Do a little research, talk to a few folk who live in SA or those who serve in the military.Just because it aint in the News dosnt make it non existent, the Natal issue isnt in the news i guess that isnt happening either.

[pauli007001]

Here we go for clarity.



I think these statistics give a sobering view of what is going on in SA.

MMMM real time statistics or KIWIs made up crap, What to believe, What to believe.

Im with you Jim, Sorry mate, Kiwis gonna call you a racist next, its a typical socialist mechanism, proove them wrong and they Insult or make accusations of racism.

[pauli007001]

It never happens say the deniers!

Mass Murder on Whites in South Africa - Video

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7078730.ece

I think the numbers speak for themselves.

3000 murdered out of a total of 40000, about 8% using low tech methods.

[Kiwi 1691]

Pauli, SA is a violent society, murders and rapes are extremely prevalent. You single out the deaths of a few thousand with farmers, as a genocide. When there have been hundreds of thousands murdered in SA, I have an issue with your attitude.

[pauli007001]

Pauli, SA is a violent society, murders and rapes are extremely prevalent. You single out the deaths of a few thousand with farmers, as a genocide. When there have been hundreds of thousands murdered in SA, I have an issue with your attitude.

You have an issue with my Attitude?You mean the fact that i say it like it is?

Why not take positive action with regard to my attitude?, Look back in the archaives, fing my address and do something!!!

Either that or continue to accuse me of having a pathological hatred of my own kids!!!!!

It is not a few thousand farmers, it is a few thousand FARM OWNERS, the farm workers of differing races(coloureds as they are known in SA, including those of Indian, mixed race and the native bushmen are all subjected to government encouraged mass murder.When the average farm owner in SA is murdered his live in workers are also killed).The killing of people because of race is racism, the encouragment of these actions by a government make it genocide.

3000 farm owners murdered with Government approoval, the non Black workers on these farms also killed, many have between 10 and 20 live in workers(given my experience visiting vineyards in SA, vineyards being FARMS that grow grapes for the wine industry, i have several friends in the wine industry in SA as I have a couple of mates who are farmers of other descriptions) So the farm owner and his 10 or 20 workers being killed all of a sudden turns the numbers from 3000 to between 3000 and 60000, now tell me the systematic murder of people because of their race is not Genocide.
I have a problem with your socialist totalitarian supporting attitude and your denying of the genocides because they dont fit in with your twisted view of the world.
More white and coloured farmers and farm workers have been killed by SA government backed groups in SA than were moslems killed by Serbs in the kosovo genocides.I guess that never happened either?

What about the holocaust? Do you deny that too?

[DTE]

this is awful. I can't stand the attitude, racists are racists they should be stamped out everywhere.

[Streetwalker]

As 3 time World cup attendee and veteran of many scirmishes into europe I can assure you all the only "rape and pillaging" going on will be from the English !

[pauli007001]

As 3 time World cup attendee and veteran of many scirmishes into europe I can assure you all the only "rape and pillaging" going on will be from the English !

You can of course shop evidence of English Fans raping the fans of other teams whilst watching the games?

I have seen violence at games, local and International, I have seen the English fans blamed for the violence on almost every occasion, usually it is the european teams fans that initiate any violence, the English then defend themselves.

Easy cop out to simply say it is always the fault of the English, If you had ever been to an international tournament you surely would see the way it is.

[octopus]

A VILE Facebook campaign to incite race hate ahead of the World Cup in South Africa in June is being investigated by police.


The official probe was launched into a group set up by alleged supporters of firebrand politician Julius Malema.
One entry, emailed to football fans around the world, calls for the “rape and slaughter” of whites and the murder of President Jacob Zuma.
In a chilling message a Malema “fan” called Thato Mbateti Mbateti warns: “Every trespasser, namely white whores, we will rape them and kill them... White kids will be burned.”
The campaign comes amid growing tensions in South Africa after the murder of white supremacist Eugene Terreblanche.
Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Racists vow to 'rape and kill' white World Cup fans

Flipping heck, if you didn't think it was bad enough what with all the problems over there, guns etc, can't imagine many will be looking forward to it much now...

Also, our Islamic friends have promised to make their presence felt. If half of this true, I think us from outside SA should just watch the world cup on TV; you get a much better seat, anyway. If the SA Police fail in their duty, it will cost SA millions.

[Streetwalker]

You can of course shop evidence of English Fans raping the fans of other teams whilst watching the games?

I have seen violence at games, local and International, I have seen the English fans blamed for the violence on almost every occasion, usually it is the european teams fans that initiate any violence, the English then defend themselves.

Easy cop out to simply say it is always the fault of the English, If you had ever been to an international tournament you surely would see the way it is.

I am talking about the 70's and 80's here ,I can assure you there was only one set of supporters to blame. More recently England fans have become a "good scalp" for some sets of forign yobos (due to past reputations) and what you say is correct.My remark was a bit off the cuff ,It was an altzimers moment when I forgot that cavemen of the past are now all old bastards like myself

[maganzo2]

This is a Boer propaganda!They didnt say about Rugby,Cricket etc because the Boers they dont fancy football.
RSA will survive without the Boers.