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EUkip LEADERSHIP IN DISARRAY

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    EUkip LEADERSHIP IN DISARRAY

    Hi,

    EUkip's Mike Nattrass claimed to have been GIVEN PERMISSION TO BREAK THE RULES!

    There is a story in todays media with the headline:
    UKIP MEP Michael Nattrass in expenses fraud inquiry!

    EUkip LEADERSHIP IN DISARRAY - UNDER OLAF CLOUD!
    As The Sunday Times
    REVEALS OLAF IS INVESTIGATING A CANDIDATE

    You may wish to read the full article and more of the details behind it - if so do:
    CLICK HERE

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    Hi,

    it is becoming increasingly likely that OLAF will not present any conclusions before Christmas as time romps by - this must make life for the assortment of EUkip MEPs like Mike Nattrass particularly difficult as they move towards a General Election already disadvantaged by being a part of the corruption which has been endemic in EUkip's leadership.

    Nattrass for instance led a revolt against Farage's aims in the last General Election being particularly stupid and lacking any visible political intelligence.

    Now he has not only a new leader but the problems of OLAF hanging over him having been interviewed initially last week we understand but he is not alone!

    Regards,
    Greg L-W.

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    Looks like UKIP are going the same way as all the other parties, so who are we to trust.
    At a time when we're having to take such difficult decisions about how to cut back without damaging the things that matter the most, we should strain every sinew to cut error, waste and fraud.

    You will feel the full force of the law and if you are old enough to commit these crimes you are old enough to face the punishments. And to these people I would say this: you are not only wrecking the lives of others, you are potentially wrecking your own life too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian The Poet View Post
    Looks like UKIP are going the same way as all the other parties, so who are we to trust.
    If UKIP do - It will be the BNP; there is nowhere else to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian The Poet View Post
    Looks like UKIP are going the same way as all the other parties, so who are we to trust.
    I don't trust a single one of them.
    Does anyone?

    Labour - don't trust
    Con - don't tryst
    Lib - don't trust
    Green - don't trust
    BNP - don't trust
    UKIP - don't trust
    any other bod or his uncle wanting political power - don't trust.

    Is that clear?
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    Can they turn the corner?

    Quote Originally Posted by octopus View Post
    If UKIP do - It will be the BNP; there is nowhere else to go
    Hi,

    what an obscene thought!!

    I guess just at the moment we must HOPE that Malcolm Pearson can clean up their act and make them electable - sadly he is tending to pander somewhat and his Islamaphobic stance and Zionism are supremely unhelpful.

    I am disinclined to rush to judge but I am very wary in view of the company he keeps in EUkip as one couldn't trust Malcolm Wood as far as you could kick him.

    Time will tell though we have little enough!

    Regards,
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    Last edited by Greg Lance-Watkins; 05-12-2009 at 08:09 PM. Reason: sp.

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    OUR Government is now in BRUSSELS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    I don't trust a single one of them.
    Does anyone?

    Labour - don't trust
    Con - don't tryst
    Lib - don't trust
    Green - don't trust
    BNP - don't trust
    UKIP - don't trust
    any other bod or his uncle wanting political power - don't trust.

    Is that clear?
    Hi,

    looks like you could be the only one happy then - since 01-Dec-2009 it couldn't matter less who is elected as ALL our laws have to be compliant with the EU central Government and 80% are just rubber stamped EU diktat.

    TRUST - you must be joking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Lance-Watkins View Post
    Hi,

    what an obscene thought!!

    I guess just at the moment we must HOPE that Malcolm Pearson can clean up their act and make them electable - sadly he is tending to pander somewhat and his Islamaphobic stance and Zionism are supremely unhelpful.

    I am disinclined to rush to judge but I am very wary in view of the company he keeps in EUkip as one couldn't trust Malcolm Wood as far as you could kick him.

    Time will tell though we have little enough!

    Regards,
    Greg L-W.
    Like it, or not the that is the stark truth. A lot of pressure on Lord Pearson. If UKIP go under - you could well see the BNP in power within a decade; although I think UKIP will survive and be elected within the same time frame. Without UKIP the British masses will go with Nick Griffin - because there is nowhere else to go.
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    Evil in the ascendancy!

    Quote Originally Posted by octopus View Post
    Like it, or not the that is the stark truth. A lot of pressure on Lord Pearson. If UKIP go under - you could well see the BNP in power within a decade; although I think UKIP will survive and be elected within the same time frame. Without UKIP the British masses will go with Nick Griffin - because there is nowhere else to go.
    Hi,

    indeed that is how evil takes control by the complacency of others.

    Thus Hitler seized control, Franco, Tito, Lenin, Mao, the Burmese Junta, Pinnochett, all evil - all came to power by default.

    Let us hope we can be spared evil seizing power in these United Kingdoms.

    Regards,
    Greg L-W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Lance-Watkins View Post
    Hi,

    indeed that is how evil takes control by the complacency of others.

    Thus Hitler seized control, Franco, Tito, Lenin, Mao, the Burmese Junta, Pinnochett, all evil - all came to power by default.

    Let us hope we can be spared evil seizing power in these United Kingdoms.

    Regards,
    Greg L-W.
    Complacency or not, thanks to the misadministration of New Labour and the indifference of the other two parties, I think we are coming towards a new era in British politics, it may be for the good, it may be for the bad. We will have to wait to see.

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    The concept is a failure

    Quote Originally Posted by octopus View Post
    Complacency or not, thanks to the misadministration of New Labour and the indifference of the other two parties, I think we are coming towards a new era in British politics, it may be for the good, it may be for the bad. We will have to wait to see.
    Hi,

    that could well have been written in 1924 in Germany. Let us hope the outcome is less catastrophic this time but I fear it may not be.

    The EU's centralisation of control in a communist style committee dictatorship is only weakened by the imposition of Rompuy a fanatical but uncharismatic man of little personality and power - appointed by The Commission in a battle to redeem power and control from The Council of EUrope.

    Which they have achieved. The ineptitude at management that leads to the top heavy bureaucracy with one of the largest armies of bribed officionados and apparatchiks the planet has ever known but bereft of vision beyond power and greed.

    Consider they have managed the EU in such a manner they are incapable of balancing the books, are a net importer of food, have almost denuded the fish stocks, Galileo has failed, Air Bus is a failure, The car industry is in difficulty out manoeuvered by both China and India, the EUrofighter is a failure and have very few of the citisens on side! But we must remember that although the Death Penalty is ostensibly banned in the EU (Except when they wish to use it!!! Read The Treaty) despite this Fiat makes death waggons for China that can be used on a mobile basis at the Court Room Door, to execute prisoners and cut them up for spare parts for sale!

    Their failure is so palpable that even though they have a plethora of hirelings as praise singers they still, despite a budget running to BILLIONS for propaganda utterly failed to take the people along with them and eventually after 8.1/2 years of abject failure had to force the new constitution on the people largely against their will.

    Regards,
    Greg L-W.

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    UKIP are a disgrace.

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    EUkip or UKIP

    Quote Originally Posted by max fm View Post
    UKIP are a disgrace.
    Hi,

    I contend there is a huge gap between UKIP & EUkip.

    What the members do and want done their principles and efforts on the one count and what the self serving poorly communicating, arrogant, corrupt leadership DO spending a large amount of money on people who bring the party into disrepute at huge expense.

    The political ineptitude has been staggering, the lack of training astonishing, the failure to communicate shamefull, the abject failure to effectively address getting out of the EU little more than rank dishonest.

    A few childish speeches, however good, being rude to the grown ups in the risible parliament amounts to a multi million £ irrelevancy.

    16 years and not a single solid achievement beyond enrichment of a few MEPs and some very low grade staff salaried as 'Praise Singers'.

    "A Disgrace" - an understandable opinion but a little harsh. Inept, crass, barrow boys, untrustworth, bullies, self serving yes but disgrace I believe you are overlooking the fact that they are politicians - what did you expect of EUkip?

    Regards,
    Greg L-W.

    Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Lance-Watkins View Post
    Hi,

    that could well have been written in 1924 in Germany. Let us hope the outcome is less catastrophic this time but I fear it may not be.

    The EU's centralisation of control in a communist style committee dictatorship is only weakened by the imposition of Rompuy a fanatical but uncharismatic man of little personality and power - appointed by The Commission in a battle to redeem power and control from The Council of EUrope.

    Which they have achieved. The ineptitude at management that leads to the top heavy bureaucracy with one of the largest armies of bribed officionados and apparatchiks the planet has ever known but bereft of vision beyond power and greed.

    Consider they have managed the EU in such a manner they are incapable of balancing the books, are a net importer of food, have almost denuded the fish stocks, Galileo has failed, Air Bus is a failure, The car industry is in difficulty out manoeuvered by both China and India, the EUrofighter is a failure and have very few of the citisens on side! But we must remember that although the Death Penalty is ostensibly banned in the EU (Except when they wish to use it!!! Read The Treaty) despite this Fiat makes death waggons for China that can be used on a mobile basis at the Court Room Door, to execute prisoners and cut them up for spare parts for sale!

    Their failure is so palpable that even though they have a plethora of hirelings as praise singers they still, despite a budget running to BILLIONS for propaganda utterly failed to take the people along with them and eventually after 8.1/2 years of abject failure had to force the new constitution on the people largely against their will.

    Regards,
    Greg L-W.
    History does have a habit of repeating itself

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