A Long Term Supporter Of UKIP has said:

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

At the present time unemployment is the important issue. It is important for many reasons, not least that for the first time since the 1930s', it is as much a middle class problem as one for the working-class.

Having sacrficed our fishing industry, farming industry, and now the prospect of North Sea oil becoming a 'An EU common resource', this must be firmly placed in the public consciousness as a consequence of EU membership.

British imports from the EU mean that we are receiving nothing from this EU project.

The euro project, and interference by the EU into London's financial trading must cease. The case against our EU membership has never been clearer.

UKIP is failing because we have abandoned reasoned discussion in favour of 'gesture politics': you are unemployed, with a mortgage, and a standard of living which is declining, because of the EU. In times of crisis we need the right to make our own decisions; for the first time in our history that is what we are being denied.

If we are to lose; let us lose on our own terms and not through those imposed upon us by foreign politicians.

Nonsense about a UKIP candidate in Buckingham is a mere distraction: choose any UKIP candidate that you like, but saving the deposit will be a mammoth task.

The art of political speech-making is identifying the origin of problems. And then articulate the concerns of the electorate as though they themselves were elucidating their own difficulties in their own minds.

'Men are taught as though you taught them not, and things unknown proposed as things forgot'.

That is the way to capture the support of the multitude.

Sadly, UKIP has thrown away what could have been an historic opportunity to change the political direction of this nation.

If the British Tommies in World War1 were, 'lions lions led by donkeys', the UKIP membership are patriots led by dunces'.

Corruption has virtually incapacitated the party for over a decade.

Those who did those things to us, or those who knew of those things, but out of cowardice did nothing, must take equal blame.

Those who are being investigated must be TOLD by Pearson to, 'stand aside' until the matters affecting them are resolved. Those same people must also withdraw from the NEC; they cannot continue to be involved in decision-making.

We must extricate the Party from association with Continental political extremists in the EU Parliament.

We must resolve to become a decent party again, and that will be manifest in our dealings and the company we keep.

We must again become the custodians of our own consciences; and not reluctant apologists for company that we should not keep.

These things are not optional extras; but central imperatives if we are to survive.

Two centuries ago, William Wilberforce told William Pitt, the prime minister, that it is not possible to reform a corrupt society.

I doubt if we will be any more successful unless we markedly improve.

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May I congratulate Geoffrey Collier at one time founder of and chairman of UKIP's largest and most successful branch - until idiots like Douglas Denny, John Moran, David Lott, Mark Croucher liars cheats and self interested low lifes hijacked the NEC and control of the unutterably corrupt selection processes that put liars and cheats like Marta Andreasen, Tom Wise, David Bannerman, Paul Nuttall, Derek Clark, Gerard Batten in place as MEPs and ethics, morality, integrity and probity shot out of the window in abject betrayal of these United Kingdoms.

I have every reason to believe that William Wilberforce's comment to William Pitt was 100% right and I do not believe EUkip can be cleaned up, even by OLAF and the British Police to cause a rebirth of UKIP as a viable choice of vote for honourable men and women I say this, as does Geoffrey and so many others, in sorrow and wish we could be proved wrong.

The conviction of my belief that we will not be is my switch of support and allegiance to the: INDEPENDENT Leave-the-EU Alliance

What I can see so far is a new model of grass roots politics with hope and vision in the long term.

I am not a member and am unlikely to join however I have accepted a role in support and was flattered to be asked.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

[Binnman]

You have heard of the law on libel haven't you?

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

You have heard of the law on libel haven't you?

Hi,

yes it is founded on the principle that you can NOT libel someone by telling the truth.

If YOU understood that please advise which facts you are unaware of and I will most happily post them with sourcing and detailed cross reference.

But thank you for asking as I am sure you had only my legal well being at heart.

Thanks again.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

Hi,

if it was this section which concerned you:

May I congratulate Geoffrey Collier at one time founder of and chairman of UKIP's largest and most successful branch - until idiots like Douglas Denny, John Moran, David Lott, Mark Croucher liars cheats and self interested low lifes hijacked the NEC and control of the unutterably corrupt selection processes that put liars and cheats like Marta Andreasen, Tom Wise, David Bannerman, Paul Nuttall, Derek Clark, Gerard Batten in place as MEPs and ethics, morality, integrity and probity shot out of the window in abject betrayal of these United Kingdoms.

Tom Wise is currently in prison serving 2 years for his lies and cheating.

Douglas Denny was dismissed as Returning Officer for his attempts to corrupt the leadership election and lie regarding it. More details can be found here of his dishonesty CLICK HERE

Marta Andreasen much vaunted as a so called whistle blower was nothing of the sort and the transcript of the facts from the Court can be found if you CLICK HERE

Mark Croucher is currently media manager for a largely racist, pro EU membership anti Jewish organisation in the EU called the EFD and published lies in a EUkip in house magazine he edited regarding, amongst others Richard Suchorzewski and myself. For more details of the EFD CLICK HERE

ALL of those mentioned except Tom Wise participated in the corrupt and dishonest lies and cheating that arrived at the MEP selection list details of which from EUkip's own appointed returning officer Piers Merchant can be found in his 9 page report CLICK HERE.

I trust these facts help reassure you that I would not nor have I EVER wittingly libelled anyone and would be the very first to admit my error and correct the wrong if I ever did by mistake. Fortunately I have ensured I have never lied about anyone in any material way EVER.

You may note this is why I am perfectly happy to post in my own name honourably rather than shelter errors or dishonesty behind a fake identity.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

[Binnman]

Thanks Greg. I was a tad worried when I saw your original post, it did seem a bit strong.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

Thanks Greg. I was a tad worried when I saw your original post, it did seem a bit strong.

Hi,

I have been on the 'political edge' for almost 50 years and I am pleased to say I have NEVER wittingly lied about anyone or anthing. I have NEVER been accused of libel - sorry not quite true, I've been accused often but I have ALWAYS proved I was telling the truth and no libel has occurred.

I have been libelled and misrepresented often but never felt the need to abuse the Court system for personal gain! Some low life's do as I am all too well aware, they show themselves for the trash they are if they can not face facts and deal with matters themselves like adults.

I appreciate there will be those on Forums like this who have no loyalty to others, but then again the owners and moderators do little to inculcate any degree of self respect sheltered as they often are with off shore hosting and fake identities.

You may trust what I say and question any or all of it as I seek no place to hide - my identity could matter less as anyone seeking recognition through forums must have led a very sad life but I ONLY ever post in my own name or identifiably - not in self promotion but in honesty - I believe there is no honour or value in attacking and exposing the corrupt if unwilling to put your own reputation on the line to back your words.

Regards,
Greg L-W.