How politically concerned are you - part 2

[LA]

This is in response to Midas' post about politics.

Who here gets actively involved in politics?

[Marxist Nutter]

You suffer from a painfully narrow view of politics. Someone can be very politically engaged and active bu have no formal links to any mainstream political party. That would be the case for me and most politically active people I know. You conform to a prejudice about what politics is which is eroding our democracy.

Not to mention the fact that if you do (for some reason) join a main political party and become active, all you will likely be doing is going to lots of cake sales and maybe popping a few badly written leaflets through people's doors, to be promptly put in the bin. Not very inspiring for those who really do have a passion for politics.

[LA]

Marxist, if you read this thread I stated nothing about needing links with a party.

Look at the poll options:

No - I hate politics
No - I don't have time
No - The party I support doesnt have a local branch
Yes - Occasionally
Yes - All the time
Yes - I am a member of my local branch

A few dont mention parties at all.

Also read this:

This is in response to Midas' post about politics.

Who here gets actively involved in politics?

Again, no mention of party branches.

You suffer from an unability to read.

You said you are very politically aware but no links with parties... As such on the poll you would put:

Yes - All the time

I suggest reading lessons.

[Marxist Nutter]

Marxist, if you read this thread I stated nothing about needing links with a party.

Look at the poll options:

No - I hate politics
No - I don't have time
No - The party I support doesnt have a local branch
Yes - Occasionally
Yes - All the time
Yes - I am a member of my local branch

A few dont mention parties at all.

Also read this:




Again, no mention of party branches.

You suffer from an unability to read.

You said you are very politically aware but no links with parties... As such on the poll you would put:

Yes - All the time

I suggest reading lessons.

Hold on you are seriously saying that those options, above allow for someone not engaged in a party???
Get real!

This is my point I saw the options and could not find one that suited at all, as they all suppose engaging in politics = engagement with a political party. In the end I had to choose the 'all the time option'. I think it is you that cannot read, my friend. If you try to argue that your options are not biased toward party politics, you will make a fool of yourself and I will not let it go, be warned!

[LA]

Do you engage in political activities often? Then choose
yes - Occasionally

Do you engage in political activities all the time? Then choose
Yes - All the time.

The reason I added the local branch part was so that there was differentiation between parties and not.

Get Real!

[Marxist Nutter]

Marxist, if you read this thread I stated nothing about needing links with a party.

Look at the poll options:

No - I hate politics
No - I don't have time
No - The party I support doesnt have a local branch
Yes - Occasionally
Yes - All the time
Yes - I am a member of my local branch

A few dont mention parties at all.

Also read this:




Again, no mention of party branches.

You suffer from an unability to read.

You said you are very politically aware but no links with parties... As such on the poll you would put:

Yes - All the time

I suggest reading lessons.

Hold on you are seriously saying that those options, above allow for someone not engaged in a party???
Get real!

This is my point I saw the options and could not find one that suited at all, as they all suppose engaging in politics = engagement with a political party. In the end I had to choose the 'all the time option' ( which by merit of the other politically engaged options must imply engagement with a party). I think it is you that cannot read, my friend. If you try to argue that your options are not biased toward party politics, you will make a fool of yourself and I will not let it go, be warned! Seriously I am starting to think that you will not meet the standard at Essex Uni if you fail to understand such simple points. I do not intend to be mean here, but am giving my professional opinon.

[LA]

Since when does

Yes - All the time

Mean I am a member of this part?
It does not.

The reason I put the option, yes all the time is for people who do it all the time

I have the local branch option for those who do it through their party.

I am suprised you manage to do anything if you cant understand a simple point.

YOu mentioned it implies something. I got a tip for you, dont assume anything.

[Marxist Nutter]

Since when does

Yes - All the time

Mean I am a member of this part?
It does not.

The reason I put the option, yes all the time is for people who do it all the time

I have the local branch option for those who do it through their party.

I am suprised you manage to do anything if you cant understand a simple point.

YOu mentioned it implies something. I got a tip for you, dont assume anything.

No but is the only non party option and is not specifically non party I.e you could choose that option whether you are in a party or not, thus you are biased toward party politics, if YOU cannot understand a simple point then apply to Oxford Brooks for your own sake, you won't make it at Essex!.

[LA]

Marxist, I will say this one final time, because you clearly do not understand this.

I am not referring to parties in all options. If you assume that I am, then fool on you for thinking it.

Now, if you cant stop being a ****, just stop replying to my threads.

[Marxist Nutter]

Marxist, I will say this one final time, because you clearly do not understand this.

I am not referring to parties in all options. If you assume that I am, then fool on you for thinking it.

Now, if you cant stop being a ****, just stop replying to my threads.

Fair enough YOU ARE A CHILD and have no clue what you are talking about on anything you have ever posted on. I have given more than enough benefit of the doubt and will fail to respond to your idiocy any more!

For your own sake tho, get a grip. I do not think you are suited to political science as an academic discipline. Maybe try something else. seriously!

[LA]

My response is you are stupid. I fail to understand why you assume a meaning into something so simple.

[Marxist Nutter]

My response is you are stupid. I fail to understand why you assume a meaning into something so simple.

Meaning is differential and deferential (read Suassure one of many people you need to read, I think) and not referential (for a start) . Thus the meaning of your categories is determined by the differences between them, thus I can only interpret that category by its relationship to the others. You have loads of party pol categories and one that may or may/not be. Bias - it is plain as the nose on your avatar's face

[LA]

Anyway, ignoring all previous comments.
Discuss!

[Midas]

You really need to have an option in the poll for people like myself who are interested in politics in the wider sense but don't have an active involvement with any specific party.

[LA]

If you arent involved with a party, choose yes all the time.

[Midas]

If you arent involved with a party, choose yes all the time.

But judging by the wording, like "No - The party I support doesnt have a local branch" and "Yes - I am a member of my local branch", the implication is a connection with a specific political party.

This is one of the problems with polls, unless they're expertly compiled you can't always be sure that you're either asking the right questions or whether you're obtaining true answers. Something that even happens with professionally conducted ones.

[LA]

I will explain them all because this is actually annoying me now.

No - I hate politics
No - I don't have time
No - The party I support doesnt have a local branch
Yes - Occasionally Does not refer to party politics
Yes - All the time Does not refer to party politics
Yes - I am a member of my local branch Refers to party politics

[Midas]

I will explain them all because this is actually annoying me now.

Rather than getting annoyed, there's a lesson to be learned here LA! As I said in my last post, even simple looking polls are often far more difficult to word so that everyone can understand the questions in the right context. You (that's a general 'you' rather than a personalised one BTW) might think that what you asked is perfectly clear and reasonable, but as in this relatively simple example it's clear that others don't.

There are a few simple guidelines here that you, well, anyone, might be interested in.