Is it Better to be Mixed Race?

[Jack Black]

"Is it Better to be Mixed-Race", presented by Aarathi Prasad, (the mother of a mixed-race child) was first seen Monday 2 October 2009 on on Channel 4.

Is It Better to Be Mixed Race? - 4oD - Channel 4

Here are some of the things Ms Prasad said during the course of the programme:

Mixed race people are our fastest growing minority group. And I can't help noticing that THEY'RE HAVING A MASSIVE IMPACT ON OUR SOCIETY… They're coming to dominate music, modelling, sport…

MANY MIXED-RACE PEOPLE SEEM TO BE SO GIFTED...

I'm Arathi Prasad and I want to explore an incredible idea, a controversial new theory suggesting MIXED-RACE PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE A BIOLOGICAL ADVANTAGE. Could there be something happening at the level of their genes that MAKES THEM SO SPECIAL? IS IT BETTER TO BE MIXED-RACE?

Well, as regards music and modelling, the most excellently mixed-race Richard Fielding, seems to fit the bill.

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He won’t be able to demonstrate his excellence any time soon, however, Aarathi, as he’s serving a life sentence at the moment for murdering Lee Day, his girlfriend and five members of Lee's family. He killed them because he blamed Lee for preventing him becoming, and I quote, a "famous male model" and a "famous DJ".

And then there’d be "the voice of '88", former pop, dance and fashion star, John Barrett, who was locked up "indefinitely" for stabbing 3 people in September 2002.

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However, that would be “indefinitely” in Cool Britannia-speak, which means he was allowed out of the nuthouse soon after he was admitted and murdered Denis Finnegan less than 24 hours later.

As for the “sport” thing, well, there’d be the “gifted”and “special” Premier League striker, Marlon King, who despite earning at least £25,000 a week, and having just about everything a young man could want, is now serving 18 months for smashing a young, white girl in the face.

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Emily Carr was left with a broken nose, black eye and split lip because she dared to reject King’s crude advances.

The 2 November edition of The Daily Mirror explained:

On the night of the attack King was celebrating scoring a winning goal for Hull, and the news that HIS WIFE JULIE WAS EXPECTING THEIR THIRD CHILD.

Emily was with friends at the Soho Revue Bar in London's West End when King - WHO HAS A STRING OF CONVICTIONS FOR ATTACKS ON WOMEN - suddenly grabbed her bottom. She asked him to stop but, furious at the rebuttal, six foot King, violently lashed out. Emily added… ‘I felt someone grab my bum and grope me from behind… It wasn't just a pinch, it was a squeeze done in a sexual way… I swung round to see King SMIRKING, LOOKING ME UP AND DOWN AND LEERING… I looked him in the eye and told him 'Don't do that. Don't touch me'…

After Emily told him to leave her alone again, King sneered:

‘I'M A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE. YOU'RE NOT IN MY LEAGUE.’ He then delivered a devastating punch, knocking Emily and two of her friends to the ground. She said… ‘His defence moaned that the sentence would lose him £1million in earnings - but I've lost my face. He's not fit ever to play for any team again’.[/quote]

Amen to that Emily.

Amen to that.

After King’s was sentenced it emerged that, in a criminal career running parallel to his sporting one, the mixed-race multimillionaire had 13 previous convictions including theft, assaulting a police officer and wounding. He was given a succession of fines and community service orders but was only jailed once.

Would Marlon King be the kind of “biologically advantaged” mixed-race specimen you had in mind, Aarathi? Would it be his “special” genes that saw him acquire so many criminal convictions, when most not-so-special, criminally disinclined men of his age would have given their eye teeth for a fraction of the wealth and status he had?

Ms Prasad continues:

The leader of the free world is the child of a black, Kenya man and a white woman from the plains of Kansas.

Curtis “Cocky” Warren, "the richest criminal in British history," is the child of a mixed-race Norwegian sailor and a mixed-race woman whose own mother was South African.

What point are you trying to make, here, Aarathi? That all mixed-race folk are potential Obamas? Well, I’m afraid that experience and the criminal justice system of the western world would tend to suggest there are many more Cocky Warrens out there than there are American Presidents.

Ms Prasad continues:

There’s a controversial new idea that's not going to please the BNP one little bit. It's a theory outlined in a book called, ‘BREEDING BETWEEN THE LINES’ by science writer, ALON ZIV. It claims that MIXED-RACE PEOPLE ARE BORN WITH A BIOLOGICAL ADVANTAGE, THE RESULT OF THEIR GENETIC DIVERSITY.

Ah, but you see Aarathi, certain members of the Jewish fraternity (Ziv is Jewish) have been doing their damnedest to convince the most gullible members of the white race to breed themselves out of existence for a very long time now.

"Breeding Between the Lines" is just the latest in a veritable plethora of genocidal self-help manuals our Jewish chums intermittently bombard the brain-dead Gentile with.

As early as 1908, Israel Zangwill was at it with his play “The Melting Pot”.

An updated version of Zangwill, the Havard Professor, Noel Ignatiev, wrote the following in the September-October 2002, edition of Harvard Magazine:

The goal of ABOLISHING THE WHITE RACE IS ON ITS FACE SO DESIRABLE that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacists.

Has this abolitionist boffin ever been castigated for voicing such a cataclysmic opinion?

Has he been kicked out of Harvard? Have the media and the PC politicians howled this ant-white racist out of the country? Oh no, Aarathi, none of these things have occurred. You see, the learned Prof preaches his abolitionist philosophy at the W.E.B. DuBois Institute for African-American Research, an institution whose courses, as you might imagine, are almost wholly taken up by black Americans.

And, as previously suggested, Iganatiev, himself, is Jewish. In this day and age we do not hold the Jew to account, even if he advocates the extinction of the white race to those who are, perhaps, most likely to take his advocacy seriously.

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Check out Zangwill and Ignatiev (pictured above) in more depth here:

I Am An Englishman

As for Mr Ziv’s “Between the Lines”, here’s the standard:

After 18 holes, Tiger Woods probably SMELLS BETTER than Phil Mickelson.

Julia Roberts was MORE LIKELY TO HAVE AN ORGASM with Benjamin Bratt than with Lyle Lovett.

Odds are, Lenny Kravitz LOST HIS VIRGINITY EARLIER than Justin Timberlake.

And the concluding sentence:

Our DIVERSITY IS A GIFT, and TO KEEP OURSELVES SEPARATED AND COMPARTMENTALIZED WOULD BE TO WASTE THAT GIFT.

Israel Zangwill would have been very proud that the extinction theories he was proposing more than a century ago are still being aired by his tribal kinfolk in 2009.

You bet he would.

In 2009, the former MP for Bethnal Green and Bow, Oona King, was appointed Head of Diversity at Channel 4.

She is both black and Jewish.

And, thus, mixed-race.

Check out the rest of the essay: "Is it Better to be Mixed-Race"? here:

I Am An Englishman

[Citizen Smith]

..... so basically your saying that mixed race people are bad?

Guess what Jack?

I AM AN ENGLISHMAN TOO, BUT I AM ALSO A HUMAN BEING, AND I AM NOT A RACIST.
Your vendettas belong in the same category as newsreaders. Predictable and laughable.

[British]

..... so basically your saying that mixed race people are bad?

Guess what Jack?

I AM AN ENGLISHMAN TOO, BUT I AM ALSO A HUMAN BEING, AND I AM NOT A RACIST.
Your vendettas belong in the same category as newsreaders. Predictable and laughable.

Yawn...

[red star]

Yawn...

Well I suppose it is easier than thinking of a decent reply !!

[DavidRose]

I particularly like the way Aarathi Prasad contradicted herself in"Is it Better to be Mixed-Race".

After telling us that only a few hundred people originally migrated out of sub-Saharan Africa to make all the people in the world today, she criticized the idea of genetic diversity existing amongst modern day Europeans because they were only descended from a small number of people. If that is the case, her claims that her child was mixed race - being the product of an Indian woman and an English man, both of whom must have been decscended from that original small group of people leaving Africa - were clearly contradictory.

[Citizen Smith]

Yes, and so she, like Jack here, is a complete fool for trying to suggest a race is superior/inferior.

[Jack Black]

..... so basically your saying that mixed race people are bad?

Guess what Jack?

I AM AN ENGLISHMAN TOO, BUT I AM ALSO A HUMAN BEING, AND I AM NOT A RACIST.

Your vendettas belong in the same category as newsreaders. Predictable and laughable.

"So basically" you are saying that the mass murderers Richard Fielding and Kenneth Erskine are good? (As opposed to "bad"?)

So basically you would rather have John Barrett, Marlon King and/or Cocky Warren living next door to you than a biologically disadvantaged, fair-haired, blue eyed indigenous Brit?

So basically you agree with Ms Prasad's "it's better to be mixed race" and not "pale, male and stale"?

So basically a bloke like me shouldn't take the mickey out of an immigrant who is given the chance to preach the genocide of those who gave her sanctuary by a national television station?

You are a disingenuous and extremely transparent kind of Englishman, Smithy.

The monikker gives the game away.

Citizen Smith was a Red, revolutionary wannabe.

And a prize twerp.

PS. I've nothing against mixed-race folk who are law-abiding, decent and don't preach the genocide of the white race.

However,
If they're here
And they sneer
They might just find themselves on the receiving end of a "predictable and laughable" JB exposé.

[DavidRose]

citizen smith was a red, revolutionary wannabe.

And a prize twerp.

citizen smith starred robert lindsay as "wolfie" smith, a young trotskyist urban revolutionary living in tooting, south london, who is attempting to emulate his hero che guevara. Wolfie is the self-proclaimed leader of the tooting popular front (in reality a small bunch of his friends) the goals of which are "power to the people" and "freedom for tooting".....in reality, he is an unemployed dreamer and petty criminal whose plans fall through because of laziness and disorganisation.
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[Citizen Smith]

PS. I've nothing against mixed-race folk who are law-abiding, decent and don't preach the genocide of the white race.

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You know, thats good to hear, because for soe reason it looked almost as if you were trying to suggest that mixed race people were murders, by posting list of them who have comitted crimes.
You also obviously didn't read my post, where I clearly stated I was against her views, I said:
"Yes, and so she, like Jack here, is a complete fool for trying to suggest a race is superior/inferior."
I'd say thats pretty clear, but obviously I lost you somewhere.
Freedom for Tooting!

[red star]

So basically you would rather have John Barrett, Marlon King and/or Cocky Warren living next door to you than a biologically disadvantaged, fair-haired, blue eyed indigenous Brit?

So the choice has been narrowed down to living next door to a brown criminal or a law abiding whiteperson ? What a joke !

Define " indigenous Brit " for me

So basically a bloke like me shouldn't take the mickey out of an immigrant who is given the chance to preach the genocide of those who gave her sanctuary by a national television station?

You do as you please.................just don't be shocked if someone you are "taking the mickey " out of smacks you in the mush . Treat it as an occupational hazzard.

You are a disingenuous and extremely transparent kind of Englishman, Smithy.

Transparent = honest................... I think he's just fine and dandy

The monikker gives the game away.

As does the Swastika

Citizen Smith was a Red, revolutionary wannabe.
And a prize twerp.

IYO

PS. I've nothing against mixed-race folk who are law-abiding, decent and don't preach the genocide of the white race.

Sure ya don't.

That's why the choice earlier about who is a good neighbour was not between a brown law abiding citizen and a white criminal

However,

Cool , a moment of transparency.

If they're here
And they sneer
They might just find themselves on the receiving end of a "predictable and laughable" JB exposé.

I'm sure they will be s***ing themselves

[sevenhills]

lol at the concept of indigenous white person. Scientifically proven is the fact that humanity has migrated from place to place. It is fact that before we were arable we were nomadic. This island was uninhabitable for thousands of thousands of years due to glaciers. Slowly it was migrated to. It doesn't matter who the first group was, two thousand years ago, a thousand years ago, there were many different groups. Inter breeding went on amongst them. The idea that an island that has had so much immigration for thousands of years has any trace of a pure first migrant is ridiculous.
In the 700s Exeter had a Cornish section, that was like chinatown of the day but for the Cornish.
We are so interbred, thousands of white tribes in Europe, whos tone changed with climate, we have been mongrels for so long, that the idea of mixed race is hilarious. Were talking skin tone, were talking two humans from gene pools separated by hundreds of miles. Where one mongrel mixed with another. The idea of a pedigree on one of the most migratory and interbreeding species on the planet is a tragic one, and idea of superiority is based on Victorian reasoning that is disproved everyday.

Culture, that can affect a person. But not race, theres far too many cases that break the rules for any talk of pedigree and superiority to be worth its weight.

[uncon]

On that basis, Jack Black, you can use Harold Shipman to prove that all White GP's are serial killers.

Fred West proves that anyone with an educationally subnormal wife who has been abused and the ability to build a patio - serial killer

John Wayne Gacy - public spirited white builders are all bad.

Just out of interest...lets look at people who like to try and stir up hatred against their friends and neighbours due to heritage or skin colour rather than who they are as individuals?

Off you go, and take your idea that we would fall for your sickening assumptions with you

[Barry]

lol at the concept of indigenous white person. Scientifically proven is the fact that humanity has migrated from place to place. It is fact that before we were arable we were nomadic. This island was uninhabitable for thousands of thousands of years due to glaciers. Slowly it was migrated to. It doesn't matter who the first group was, two thousand years ago, a thousand years ago, there were many different groups. Inter breeding went on amongst them. The idea that an island that has had so much immigration for thousands of years has any trace of a pure first migrant is ridiculous.
In the 700s Exeter had a Cornish section, that was like chinatown of the day but for the Cornish.
We are so interbred, thousands of white tribes in Europe, whos tone changed with climate, we have been mongrels for so long, that the idea of mixed race is hilarious. Were talking skin tone, were talking two humans from gene pools separated by hundreds of miles. Where one mongrel mixed with another. The idea of a pedigree on one of the most migratory and interbreeding species on the planet is a tragic one, and idea of superiority is based on Victorian reasoning that is disproved everyday.

Culture, that can affect a person. But not race, theres far too many cases that break the rules for any talk of pedigree and superiority to be worth its weight.

I suppose for the evolutionists out there, and those that believe we have been around for millions of years, the fact that we have not all become coffee coloured by now must be one huge question.
Don't tell me that we didn't do intercontinental travel, because we did.

[Midas]

I suppose for the evolutionists out there, and those that believe we have been around for millions of years, the fact that we have not all become coffee coloured by now must be one huge question.
Don't tell me that we didn't do intercontinental travel, because we did.

But there was very little mixing in the early days of the human race spreading across the globe. Given that it look something like 25/30,000 years for the first people to reach Australia, and another 20,000 for them to reach South America, the opportunity for a mixing of the slow diversification of the human species into today's individually distinguishable races was non existent. It's only really been in the last few millennia that there's even been a tiny amount of international travel, and only in the last few centuries that it's been on any scale. Even so, the vast majority of people will seek out a partner of the same race as themselves.

[sevenhills]

I think that there was a cornish section in exeter only 1200 years ago kind of answers that one. saxons wouldnt even sleep with other white people. albeit crazy haired pasty eating ones.
But are you a descendent from a boater 60 years ago or 600 years ago, either way it really makes no difference.

[pauli007001]

Mixed race is definatly better, more challenging at least.Imagine a three legged egg and spoon race, that is a bit mixed, but even tougher and better is the Uber Mixed race of the 3 legged egg and spoon sack race, it is the master race without a doubt!!

[rociano]

Thanks Jack Black for that insight into the mind of a racist, nothing I ain't seen before though, and frankly all rather tiresome.

[DavidRose]

Whites were the first into Europe, therefore whites are indigenous to Europe.

Simple logic.

[Citizen Smith]

Whites were the first into Europe, therefore whites are indigenous to Europe.

Simple logic.

Mr Rose, I DEMAND to see hard evidence that ALL of your family is white through EVERY generation- if it materialists that your bloodline has been contaminated somewhere by....... COLOUR...... then you will be Deported IMMEDIETLY from our great imperial nation.
Come on everyone..... God save our gracious Queen.... keep us uncontaminated.. God save this racist.......

[red star]

As Samuel Clemens ( AKA Mark Twain ) once noted......... " The white mans burden has been sung. Who will sing the brown mans ? "

Well it seems like the answer is the brown men themselves and those of a leftist inclination usually.

[DavidRose]

Mr Rose, I DEMAND to see hard evidence that ALL of your family is white through EVERY generation- if it materialists that your bloodline has been contaminated somewhere by....... COLOUR...... then you will be Deported IMMEDIETLY from our great imperial nation.
Come on everyone..... God save our gracious Queen.... keep us uncontaminated.. God save this racist.......

So any Maori who claims they are indigenous to New Zealand is a racist?

[DavidRose]

Well it seems like the answer is the brown men themselves and those of a leftist inclination usually.

Exactly, this is why blacks always vote left. Their position in society is maintained by white liberals using socialist policies like affirmative action and equal opportunities.

[Patriot1]

I find this topic strange.

Race is still a bit of a taboo subject, memories of world war two and the Nazis havent faded yet.

Governments since then has done everything in their power to stop it happening again and now we are left with political correctness and a broken country.

Now people can come up with claims that mixed race people are genetically superior even though the same people say genetics hardly plays a part.

If there was any such program about a superior white race we know how people would react.

[Citizen Smith]

Exactly, this is why blacks always vote left. Their position in society is maintained by white liberals using socialist policies like affirmative action and equal opportunities.

Yeah, thats right- every single black person votes left. Every one of them. They all et together and the high leader of black people says; vote left, Black brethren! And they do, because as you pointed ouut, they are a single entity.
Unlike whites, who you and me understand David, that whites are actually real living people.

[DavidRose]

Yeah, thats right- every single black person votes left. Every one of them. They all et together and the high leader of black people says; vote left, Black brethren! And they do, because as you pointed ouut, they are a single entity.
Unlike whites, who you and me understand David, that whites are actually real living people.

As liberal whites like you and Neo have demonstrated, you are only in favor of blacks when they are not acting against your political interests. When someone like Mugabe comes forward suddenly the white liberal establishment is telling us enough is enough.

It's not a conspiracy though, only an err... 'accident'.

[Citizen Smith]

Rose you are a joke.
First you tell us all what black people are thinking, now you tell me what all liberals think.

[ResistanceIsStrong]

No matter what the politically correct might say, the truth is that although all life itself may have even come from the same single celled creature, the human race is a collection of an indefinable, number, of groups who (in different parts of the globe) have spent different amounts of time evolving in isolation. Hence racial differences in e.g. healthcare.
If you marry a white girl from Nottingham there is quite a good chance that within the last 2000 years you will share many related ancestors. If she's black and from Africa then there is a good chance that you will share no related ancestors within even the last 10,000 years.
In animal breeding it's well known that mixed breeds tend to be the building blocks of new breeds. This is because if you add any evolutionary pressure(s), then evolution need only switch of the disadvantages and keep the benefits. Logically it's generally easier to leave genes switched on, than it to would to change-build them from scratch.
So I'd argue that the mixing is going to (on average) create a race with more genes in (at least) it's survival arsenal than a race that has been say "purified" by Hitler.
This means the American race could be a superior race, precisely because it isn't one race but an exotic mixture.
But: One BIG problem with mixed races is that you need only look at an extreme case Iraq like to realise that the moment things get tough, people will turn on peoples differences. This even when 6 years ago they were collogues, and today they are murder targets for reprisal murders.
Even without death being involved, this turning on differences behaviour is quite natural, and I see no reason why it isn't about as old as human consciousness. I'd imagine it's even democratically hard wired into us (meaning it takes oppression through state-education to stop).
One reason I found it appaling that Labour has delibretely allowed in imigrants in to help force us all into a multi-cultral society is that history shows multicultral society's are unstable even when there is wealth, and that humankind is hard wired to turn on anyone we can. We only have about 50 years of political consciousness, and a week is supposed to be a long time in politics. It's obvious that within 300 years either the whites will be oppressed-exterminated, or that will have become the fate of those we let in today. Much like a nuclear war, it's foolish to mount a indefinite opposition to this fact.

[pauli007001]

Ha ha

Not that I ever watch it but a couple of years back wasn't there a guy called Derek on Big Brother who wrote speeches for David Cameron???

Bobby Jindal or Jacky Robinson.

[pauli007001]

Mr Rose, I DEMAND to see hard evidence that ALL of your family is white through EVERY generation- if it materialists that your bloodline has been contaminated somewhere by....... COLOUR...... then you will be Deported IMMEDIETLY from our great imperial nation.
Come on everyone..... God save our gracious Queen.... keep us uncontaminated.. God save this racist.......

I can trace my lineage in these Islands back a thousand years.I have evidence also that my early lineage began in Egypt some 5000 years ago, dont see the relevance to your question/statement.

We had a culture in the UK(regonal variations admitedly).Nulab has voiced their desire to eradicate that culture, they have celebrated its partial destruction.What was wrong with it in the first place?Its isnt about race IMO its about culture and tradition and family........Oh **** i forgot, the 3 things the nulabnazis despise most, particulary family!!

[pauli007001]

Rose you are a joke.
First you tell us all what black people are thinking, now you tell me what all liberals think.

I dont know what all Black folks are thinking, i would bet $22.50 that at least one Black is considering heading down the local for a Pint whilst thinking that it sucks that the NULABNAZI wont let him have a smoke with his pint.

All Liberals(totalitarians) are thinking of more extreme ways to tax the workers to death, its what they do, what they think, id wager they have wet dreams about how much they can tax the poor bloody workers!!!!!

[Jack Black]

So the choice has been narrowed down to living next door to a brown criminal or a law abiding whiteperson ?

What a joke!

As a matter of fact, within this country, your Blacks and your Browns are far more likely to behave with criminal intent towards the indigenous (native to these islands) than the reverse.

Thing is, when a chump comes up with yet another Brit-demeaning piece of tortured illogic to ram down the throats of the gullible young, she and her defenders shouldn't be surprised when the oppo cites the odd mixed-race toer*g as a shining example of the paucity of her argument.

Or so I'd have thought.

Don't be shocked if someone you are "taking the mickey" out of smacks you in the mush.

In cyberspace such things do not occur.

They only get threatened.

In the real world, as befits an Englishman of the old school, I am, I hope, courtesy itself to all but the discourteous.

Most blokes as big as me tend not to get "smacked in the mush" anyway. Last time such a thing happened was in 1996. Three of the various miscreants ran off, the fourth crawled.

As does the Swastika .

My 20-year-old father was there on D-Day as it happens.

A young Englishman putting his life on the line because it was his job to do so. He was in charge of a lot of Wehrmacht soldiers after the war as they and he (it was his job) did their bit to build Germany back up again.

He thought the world of them. "Salt of the earth and twice as bright as us", he'd say. Couldn't understand why such intelligent folk got "sucked in" by Hitler.

Having said that, he didn't cotton to the SS chaps he had to deal with.

Anyway, I'm no Nazi. I'm an Englishman who doesn't like the PC Crowd, the common-or-garden Trot, those who think it perfectly OK to take the p*** out of the British because it's fashionable and your self-serving, gimme-gimme-gimme and criminal immigrant dictating terms to the natives.

Swastika, eh? Ah well, the followers of Lev Bronstein do tend to sneer and smear and chuck the muck with GAY abandon hoping some of it will stick.

Used to it, Trot.

The enemy is nothing if not predictable.

[Citizen Smith]

Anyway, I'm no Nazi. I'm an Englishman who doesn't like the PC Crowd,

I just love it when the BNP type go on and on about how stupid Political correctness is, then when they get called something they flip their lids.

[Jack Black]

I just love it when the BNP type go on and on about how stupid Political correctness is, then when they get called something they flip their lids.

No lid-flipping here, Citizen.

Just explanation. But then explanation of the facts of the matter is anathema to average Citizen Smith type.

Examples of lid-flipping to the twerpy Trot:

I am, I hope, courtesy itself to all but the discourteous...

My 20-year-old father was there on D-Day...

A young Englishman putting his life on the line...

He thought the world of them...

"Salt of the earth and twice as bright as us"...

He didn't cotton to the SS chaps...

I'm an Englishman who doesn't like the PC Crowd...

I'm no Nazi.

Not "BNP" either.

Ah, they do love their tried and tested little-red-book-learned routines, do the do the junior Citizens. BNP/NAZI/BIGOT/FASCIST/DINOSAUR: how the juvenile name-calling doth resonate in Redland.

Hey, Citizen! You do know that Trotsky invented the word "racist", don't you? I wonder, is there a Lefty left who doesn't know that the mass-murdering Mr Bronstein invented the term in order to demonise his enemies?

Here's what causes the pubescent revolutionaries to suck their dummies, stamp their jackbootees and pout:

The followers of Lev Bronstein do tend to sneer and smear and chuck the muck with GAY abandon hoping some of it will stick... The enemy is nothing if not predictable.

[DougieG]

My 20-year-old father was there on D-Day as it happens.

I could believe that your father is 20 - your posts are written with the grace and insight of a 4 year old. But D-Day happened sixty five years ago I'm afraid, so he's definitely been telling you fibs.


For anyone who hasn't seen Jack's posts before, they all follow this line:

1. Comment made by a black or Jewish person twisted out of all proportion.
2. List of black or Jewish people who have committed crimes or are allegedly communists.
3. Assertion that because some black and Jewish people are criminals, they are all trying to take over the world, abolish the white man and engage in a world wide conspiracy of holocaust-creation and illuminati-style communist conspiracy.
4. Call to abolish black people.

Jack, this is addressed to you. You said something about who would we rather live with? Well I'd rather live with Lenny Henry, Bonny Greer, Martin Luther King, Stevie Wonder or Barack Obama than you, Fred West, Hitler or Stalin.

[Jack Black]

Now i happen to know this wrong and inaccurate. Same, no doubt goes for everything else in your posts.

The first recorded use of the word racist was by a Fascist Lawrence Dennis, in his book The Coming American Fascism

As you dont seem to ever know what you are on about and get al your so called facts from stormfront I will ignore most of your drivel

The term "racist" was first coined in English by a Mr. Max Eastman.

He was translating a word (in 1932) used by the aforementioned mass murderer, Leon Trotsky, in his 1930 essay, The History of the Russian Revolution. Which to all but a confirmed Trot, would seem to predate Mr Dennis' work by a full six years.

Different translators have used the term to describe what was meant in other Trotsky articles. For example, Trotsky's 1933 essay, What is National Socialism? also contains the word "racism", as it has been translated into English.

The notorious homosexual "sexologist" and self-styled "Einstein of Sex", Magnus Hirschfeld, also titled his magnum opus "Racism".

He finished the book in 1934, the year before his death. It was first published in English 3 years later by Victor Gollancz.

For your further education, Nutter, Trotsky was a Russian Jew, Hirschfeld was a German Jew, Gollancz was a Hungarian/English Jew.

Just in case you or any of the other usual suspects at this site are tempted, the adjective "anti-semitic" was seen in print as early as 1860.

The biographer, Moritz Steinschneider, used it in the phrase "antisemitischen vorurtheile". ("Antisemitic prejudices")

Moritz, the son of Jacob Steinschneider, a Tamudic scholar and enthusiastic early Zionist, was an Austrian Jew.

Here is the translated Trotsky passage:

Slavophilism, the messianism of backwardness, has based its philosophy upon the assumption that the Russian people and their church are democratic through and through, whereas official Russia is a German bureaucracy imposed upon them by Peter the Great.

Mark remarked upon this theme:

“In the same way the Teutonic jackasses blamed the despotism of Frederick the Second upon the French, as though backward slaves were not always in need of civilised slaves to train them.”

This brief comment completely finishes off not only the old philosophy of the Slavophiles, but also the latest revelations of the “Racists.”

Here is a link: (There are many more - most of them Nutter and Citizen S type links)

Leon Trotsky: The History of the Russian Revolution (1.1 Peculiarities of Russia's Development)

What was that you were saying, Nutty, my dear?

Ah yes:

"i happen to know this wrong and inaccurate. Same, no doubt goes for everything else in your posts...

You dont seem to ever know what you are on about and get al your so called facts from stormfront I will ignore most of your drivel".

Thus spake a truly dishonest doughnut who, no doubt, gets most of his propaganda from some little red book or or other.

Dougie G adds:

I could believe that your father is 20 - your posts are written with the grace and insight of a 4 year old. But D-Day happened sixty five years ago I'm afraid, so he's definitely been telling you fibs.

What a truly stupid attempt at a point score.

Hey Douglas! My dear, old dad was twenty at the time D-Day occurred. He's been dead twenty-five years. He told me his war tales (not the violent stuff - he never mentioned that) in the 1950s.

Grow a few brain cells, you dimwits.

The conversation might prove a little more edifying if there was a little grey matter engaged.

[DougieG]

The conversation might prove a little more edifying if there was a little grey matter engaged.

So try again to answer the rest of my post. Here it is, in case you're incapable of finding it:

For anyone who hasn't seen Jack's posts before, they all follow this line:

1. Comment made by a black or Jewish person twisted out of all proportion.
2. List of black or Jewish people who have committed crimes or are allegedly communists.
3. Assertion that because some black and Jewish people are criminals, they are all trying to take over the world, abolish the white man and engage in a world wide conspiracy of holocaust-creation and illuminati-style communist conspiracy.
4. Call to abolish black people.

Jack, this is addressed to you. You said something about who would we rather live with? Well I'd rather live with Lenny Henry, Bonny Greer, Martin Luther King, Stevie Wonder or Barack Obama than you, Fred West, Hitler or Stalin.

WOULD YOU RATHER LIVE WITH LENNY HENRY OR HITLER, JACK?

I know the answer, but I'd still like to see whether you lie or not. Or even avoid the question.

[Jack Black]

For anyone who hasn't seen Jack's posts before, they all follow this line:

1. Comment made by a black or Jewish person twisted out of all proportion.

Perhaps you could trawl through some of my previous posts to find an example of this?

2. List of black or Jewish people who have committed crimes or are allegedly communists.

You forgot Asian, East European and politically correct, British traitors, Dougie.

I'm not too sure why the ordinary Joe would be offended by my posting a "list" of "black or Jewish people" (or Asian/East European) if they happened to be criminals who were in the business of savaging the indigenous, white population. Particularly when the establishment and characters like you seem to be dead set against them finding out what they need to know in order to protect themselves from such folk.

Check out the Rogues' Gallery at the I AM AN ENGLISHMAN web site for those EVERYONE (not just Whitey) needs protection from.

I Am An Englishman

3. Assertion that because some black and Jewish people are criminals, they are all trying to take over the world, abolish the white man and engage in a world wide conspiracy of holocaust-creation and illuminati-style communist conspiracy.

Well now, that's not quite the case, is it?

I get a lot of info from decent Jewish commentators who seem to be as appalled as I am by the historical and present-day shenanigans of the elite, the orthodox and the placemen of their own tribe. Once again, when the establishment engages in a massive cover-up of Judaic misbehaviour in particular someone who hasn't been brainwashed to the max better start speaking up if those outside the loop are to be protected.

Here's an interesting thing I've noted over the years. When I point out stuff that isn't well known on the internet there are always a ton of Dougie Gs, Marxist Nutters and Citizen Smiths hanging about ready to insult and pour scorn. Characters like these NEVER, that is NEVER, condemn the crimnals I refer to and they NEVER sympathise with their victims.

Take Dougie's advice and have a look back through my posts. You'll find the usual suspects sneering and snarling their way to Red Heaven without ever a gentle word to be said for the much put-upon Brit.

4. Call to abolish black people.

What?

Once again, Dougie, a quick trawl through some of my previous posts to find an example of this if you please.

Jack, this is addressed to you. You said something about who would we rather live with? Well I'd rather live with Lenny Henry, Bonny Greer, Martin Luther King, Stevie Wonder or Barack Obama than you...

Can't say I'm surprised, Dougie.

... Fred West... or Stalin.

I'd rather live with the black folk you cited than these as it happens.

PS. As previously stated, old Fred West doesn't much look like any full-blooded Anglo that I've ever met. My guess is there's a bit of Lenny Henry (the least funny comedian ever?) in the non-representative mix.

WOULD YOU RATHER LIVE WITH LENNY HENRY OR HITLER, JACK?

Now that's a difficult one, Dougie.

I think Lenny would, quite simply bore me to death within 24 hours if his off-screen personna is exactly similar to his on.

I doubt that old Adolf would do me in with tedium. He might have me put up against a wall and shot but I think I'd prefer that to a lingering death by pubescent, crisp-packet joke.

Of the characters you mentioned, Obama certainly appears to be a moral and intellectual cut above Bush junior and Clinton, (though he may well turn out to be as much of a Jewish stooge as they were) and Martin Luther King, though he wasn't anywhere near as saintly as history presents him, would, I'm sure, be a companionable soul to hang around with for an eternity.

Yep, of those folk you cited, Mr King would be the chap I'd choose to party with. Though I must admit I wouldn't mind a week or so with Adolf just to see if he was as nuts and nasty as the Jewish media have painted him over the years.

I know the answer, but I'd still like to see whether you lie or not. Or even avoid the question.

No dishonesty or avoiding of questions from JB, Dougie, my dear.

I'm no Red. I am an Englishman - a proper one.

How about you, Doug? Don't you have just a little bit of immigrant up close in your pedigree? Isn't that why you are almost always so sanctimoniously shrill and inconsiderate of the British?

Ok the word racism is an ENGLISH WORD and so was first used in ENGLISH as I said. Trotsky wrote in Russian (different alphabet) and his word has also been translated as racialism. and no it was not used in a translation of trotsky but in fact was used in the book that i cited. TRY AGAIN! Stormfront is not always right especially when they dont read the OED etymology pages with care

Methinks the lady in Red doth protest too much!

Perhaps you should address the sneering, Red venom to the link I provided, Nut? The web site Marxists.org (your lot) seems quite happy to acknowledge Trotsky as the inventor and Eastman as the translator of Trotsky's invention.

To whit:

ONLINE VERSION: Translated by Max Eastman, 1932.

And then there'd be proof of this in the Library of Congress:

Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 8083994 - ISBN 0913460834

Leon Trotsky: The History of the Russian Revolution (1930)

From Marxists.org (your lot) we also have a quote from Trotsky's JUNE 1933 tract, What Is National Socialism? which reads:

The theory of race, specially created, it seems, for some pretentious self-educated individual seeking a universal key to all the secrets of life, appears particularly melancholy in the light of the history of ideas. In order to create the religion of pure German blood, Hitler was obliged to borrow at second hand the ideas of RACISM from a Frenchman, Count Gobineau...

Hitler found the political methodology ready-made in Italy, where Mussolini had borrowed largely from the Marxist theory of the class struggle. Marxism itself is the fruit of union among German philosophy, French history, and British economics. To investigate retrospectively the genealogy of ideas, even those most reactionary and muddleheaded, is to leave not a trace of RACISM standing...

On the plane of politics, RACISM is a vapid and bombastic variety of chauvinism in alliance with phrenology. As the ruined nobility sought solace in the gentility of its blood, so the pauperized petty bourgeoisie befuddles itself with fairy tales concerning the special superiorities of its race...

The Nazis set out with concessions beforehand; the purity of race, which must be certified in the kingdom of the spirit by a passport must be demonstrated in the sphere of economy chiefly by efficiency. Under contemporary conditions this means competitive capacity. Through the back door, RACISM returns to economic liberalism, freed from political liberties.

Leon Trotsky: What Is National Socialism? (1933)

And then there'd be Magnus Hirschfeld's magnum opus, Racism, which you don't bother to deal with at all. (Published by Gollancz in 1938 after being translated by Eden and Cedar Paul, two avowed Communists -your lot again, Nutty)

Hirschfeld wrote what he wrote in 1993/1934, two years before your bloke had the same idea.

German Wikipedia says this:

Größeren Bekanntheitsgrad erlangte der Begriff 'Rassismus' erst durch den Sexualwissenschaftler Magnus Hirschfeld, dessen zwischen 1933 und 1934 verfasste Analyse und Widerlegung der nationalsozialistischen Rassendoktrin posthum, in englischer Übersetzung, unter dem Titel 'Racism' veröffentlicht wurde.

Which a German girlfriend of mine translated as:

The term, 'RACISM' GOT ITS BIGGEST AWARENESS LEVEL THROUGH MAGNUS HIRSCHFELD whose analysis and disproof of the national socialist doctrine of race made between 1933 and 1934 was published posthumously in the English translation under the headline 'Racism'.

As regards the term "racialism", this word was in use as early as 1907 I think.

Thing is, as I think you may know, Nutty, this word was never used pejoritavely. It was an anthropological term mostly used by scientists of one kind or another.

"Racism" and "Racist", on the other hand, have always been accusatory, insulting terms intended to demonise. That's why a mass-murdering, Jewish Bolshevik and a gay, PC pervert (who was also of the Hebraic persuasion) invented them.

In Trotsky's What is National Socialism, he says something that I find remarkable.

What do you Marxist nation-haters think of this:

LIBERALISM AND MARXISM ARE EVIL. THE NATION IS GOOD!

[DTE]

Favourite Jack Black post http://www.politic.co.uk/united-king...uess-what.html

doesn't quite fill all the criteria Doug set out, but its close.

[DougieG]

Perhaps you could trawl through some of my previous posts to find an example of this?

Your first one in this thread.

You forgot Asian, East European and politically correct, British traitors, Dougie.

I'm not too sure why the ordinary Joe would be offended by my posting a "list" of "black or Jewish people" (or Asian/East European) if they happened to be criminals who were in the business of savaging the indigenous, white population. Particularly when the establishment and characters like you seem to be dead set against them finding out what they need to know in order to protect themselves from such folk.

What about all the white criminals who aren't reported in the media, then? Why not report them too?

Well now, that's not quite the case, is it?

Yes.

I get a lot of info from decent Jewish commentators who seem to be as appalled as I am by the historical and present-day shenanigans of the elite, the orthodox and the placemen of their own tribe. Once again, when the establishment engages in a massive cover-up of Judaic misbehaviour in particular someone who hasn't been brainwashed to the max better start speaking up if those outside the loop are to be protected.

I bet you do. A lot of zionists are EXTRAORDINARILY xenophobic.

Here's an interesting thing I've noted over the years. When I point out stuff that isn't well known on the internet there are always a ton of Dougie Gs, Marxist Nutters and Citizen Smiths hanging about ready to insult and pour scorn. Characters like these NEVER, that is NEVER, condemn the crimnals I refer to and they NEVER sympathise with their victims.

No, Jack. The difference between us is that I take for granted that what some criminals have done is horrific, and I think about what the best way would be to structure criminal justice. You decide that you hate black people and spend your afternoon typing up lists of them who have committed crimes, not seeing past the race. The race is irrelevant. The crime is a horrific part.

Take Dougie's advice and have a look back through my posts. You'll find the usual suspects sneering and snarling their way to Red Heaven without ever a gentle word to be said for the much put-upon Brit.

Jack's posts are the same but with added racism, of course.

Can't say I'm surprised, Dougie.

Good, you should have anticipated it when you asked a similarly ridiculous question.

I'd rather live with the black folk you cited than these as it happens.

Good.

PS. As previously stated, old Fred West doesn't much look like any full-blooded Anglo that I've ever met. My guess is there's a bit of Lenny Henry (the least funny comedian ever?) in the non-representative mix.

So? Are you a racist?

Now that's a difficult one, Dougie.

I bet. Do you lie or be completely discredited?

I think Lenny would, quite simply bore me to death within 24 hours if his off-screen personna is exactly similar to his on.

Fair enough. Which other black comics do you like?

I doubt that old Adolf would do me in with tedium. He might have me put up against a wall and shot but I think I'd prefer that to a lingering death by pubescent, crisp-packet joke.

Probably not, you'd get along like a house on fire. You could discuss how minorities have supposedly destroyed your country and raped your daughters.

Of the characters you mentioned, Obama certainly appears to be a moral and intellectual cut above Bush junior and Clinton, (though he may well turn out to be as much of a Jewish stooge as they were) and Martin Luther King, though he wasn't anywhere near as saintly as history presents him, would, I'm sure, be a companionable soul to hang around with for an eternity.

You've tried to renounce your anti-semitism, yet it comes back here! Comedy gold.

Yep, of those folk you cited, Mr King would be the chap I'd choose to party with. Though I must admit I wouldn't mind a week or so with Adolf just to see if he was as nuts and nasty as the Jewish media have painted him over the years.

Jewish media? Great. So Hitler is only thought of as evil because the Jews have created an alternative history, right?

No dishonesty or avoiding of questions from JB, Dougie, my dear.

I don't know about the first one.

I'm no Red. I am an Englishman - a proper one.

Nothing wrong with us Reds. You racists and conspiracy theorists would be out of a hobby without someone to blame.

How about you, Doug? Don't you have just a little bit of immigrant up close in your pedigree? Isn't that why you are almost always so sanctimoniously shrill and inconsiderate of the British?

100% British actually. 25% Scottish I know of, and past great-great-grandparents I don't really think it can make much difference, but then the racists will go to any means... Shrill is a ridiculous word to use. It indicates pitch of voice and this is an internet forum. I quite like our country, and I want to protect it from becoming a fascist state by pointing out how ridiculous racists like you are. Have a nice day.

[Jack Black]

You are dull and deeply dishonest, Dougie.

Like all internet Commies.

I will chew the chewiest bits out of your latest offering of disigenuous, schoolboy tripe presently. Right now, there are waverers to convert elsewhere.

Check out the Rogues Gallery, folks.

I Am An Englishman

Whilst your at it, take a look at the monthly newslinks at the bottom of the home page. And remember, the criminals cited therein wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the Dougie Gs.

If any of you have been raped by ethnics, or had your daughters raped by them, DO hold it against the uniquely crass creep cited in the previous sentence.

Along with his fellow Reds, the PC Crowd, New Labour, the wallet-stuffing traitors in Westminster and the globalist establishment.

THEY really ARE to blame.

[DTE]

You are dull and deeply dishonest, Dougie.

Like all internet Commies.

I will chew the chewiest bits out of your latest offering of disigenuous, schoolboy tripe presently. Right now, there are waverers to convert elsewhere.

Check out the Rogues Gallery, folks.

I Am An Englishman

Whilst your at it, take a look at the monthly newslinks at the bottom of the home page. And remember, they wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the Dougie Gs.

If any of you have been raped by ethnics, or had your daughters raped by them, DO hold it against the uniquely crass creep cited in the previous sentence.

Along with his fellow Reds, the PC Crowd, New Labour. the wallet-stuffing traitors in Westminster and the globalist establishment.

THEY really ARE to blame.

Now you are embarassing yourself Jack.

[Citizen Smith]

If any of you have been raped by ethnics, or had your daughters raped by them, DO hold it against the uniquely crass creep cited in the previous sentence.

Yes!!!!
I blame you dougie- last night I was raped, mugged and murdered by a gang of homosexual asians and black men. AND IT WAS DOUGIE'S FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Hissyfit::Hissyfit:

[pauli007001]

Yes!!!!
I blame you dougie- last night I was raped, mugged and murdered by a gang of homosexual asians and black men. AND IT WAS DOUGIE'S FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Hissyfit::Hissyfit:

What is the case if a half white half black is raped by a white rapist?

Is that OK or is that still Dougies fault, or is it the fault of Jack Black?

Or is it simply the fault of the rapist.........

Did it hurt Smithy? All that getting mugged and raped and murdered?

[orange]

half white and half black would be gray

[pauli007001]

half white and half black would be gray

not if it were in reference to race.Then it would be mixed race.