The Monarch worried an unelected Muslim in Government?

**newspresenter** · 13-05-2010, 01:39 PM

Sayeeda Warsi, an unelected member of the House of Lords, said after being named a cabinet minister in Britain's new government that she was proud of being "from working class, of Muslim faith and of Pakistani background. I am much pleased."

In previous times, she was elected as the vice president of the Students Union at Dewsbury College and was a member of Cameron's shadow cabinet as well as former vice-chairperson of the Conservative Party, according to the party website.

Warsi accompanied Cameron during his last visit to Pakistan where they held talks with the government and opposition figures.

"Britain has enjoyed warm relations with Pakistan and our government will ensure that our relations are further strengthened and they are more geared towards solving the issues that affect the people of both the countries," Warsi was quoted as saying.

Pakistani-origin woman is Conservative Party chairperson- Hindustan Times

Interestingly, born in Dewsbury, a muslim, but didn't stand for Parliament in Dewsbury, wonder why?

Ah you got it, in the last Government, the Islamic Shahid Malik was a Labour MP, hold on though, he's Labour, but didn't that galvanise Sayeed Awarsi to stand against him, i mean, she's a Conservative, no, she didn't stand against the muslim, that was left to an Englishman, Simon Reevell.

So should the Monarch be concerned that the management team they allowed to run their country, is putting a muslim into a prominent position, who wouldn't stand against another muslim?

Should be notted, that the Islamic Shahid Malik was arrested by the Monarch's police force during the 2001 race riots in Bradford.

Part of the Monarch's criteria when hiring someone to run their country, is that they don't pose either a financial or security threat, hmm.

**Don** · 13-05-2010, 05:12 PM

Where have you demonstrated that the lady in question poses "either a financial or security threat"?

One has to wonder if you would have posted this if the minister in question had been 'white', elected or unelected.

**Barry** · 13-05-2010, 05:24 PM

Baroness Warsi is what I call the moderate face of Islam.
She is actually hated by the Islamists, who recently were involved in a nasty incident, where she was assaulted.

Whenever I have seen her, on TV, Question Time, etc. she has spoken a great deal of common sense.

Therefore I think, newspresenter's concerns are pretty well unfounded.

DC · 13-05-2010, 06:48 PM

Isn't she the one who gave all that flak to those fundamentalist muslim men? I think she probably deserves the title.

**Major Sinic** · 13-05-2010, 08:27 PM

Irrespective of her political convictions, I consider an emancipated, educated Muslim woman who has embraced much of the culture of the country of her birth, to be the type of role model that young British Muslims should look up to.

What convoluted reasoning makes it remotely logical that she should be expected to stand against Shahid Malik, just because she is a Conservative and a Muslim. There are, I would imagine, tens of thousands of Conservative and Liberal Democrat Muslims in this country, and they didn't stand against Shahid Malik either!

**joethfc** · 13-05-2010, 08:45 PM

Newspresenter, how come most of your posts resemble articles from the daily mail? A lot of stuff you seem to post seems to be to get reactions out of people rather than to express a genuine opinion.

**newspresenter** · 13-05-2010, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by Don

Where have you demonstrated that the lady in question poses "either a financial or security threat"?

One has to wonder if you would have posted this if the minister in question had been 'white', elected or unelected.

Don't think i have, but not standing against a muslim who was arrested during a race riot is very strange. This is someone that was elevated into a high position in the Tory party, on Question Time every 2 months for 3 years, would easily have defeated a muslim MP.

**newspresenter** · 13-05-2010, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Barry

Baroness Warsi is what I call the moderate face of Islam.
She is actually hated by the Islamists, who recently were involved in a nasty incident, where she was assaulted.

Whenever I have seen her, on TV, Question Time, etc. she has spoken a great deal of common sense.

Therefore I think, newspresenter's concerns are pretty well unfounded.

Warsi is also an Islamist...why didn't she stand in the area she was born in?

**Don** · 13-05-2010, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by newspresenter

Don't think i have, but not standing against a muslim who was arrested during a race riot is very strange. This is someone that was elevated into a high position in the Tory party, on Question Time every 2 months for 3 years, would easily have defeated a muslim MP.

Must you continue to wear that silly tinfoil hat?

**Don** · 13-05-2010, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by newspresenter

Warsi is also an Islamist...why didn't she stand in the area she was born in?

I give up. Why didn't she? Why not ask her instead of this endless prattle and innuendo?

**Barry** · 13-05-2010, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by newspresenter

Don't think i have, but not standing against a muslim who was arrested during a race riot is very strange. This is someone that was elevated into a high position in the Tory party, on Question Time every 2 months for 3 years, would easily have defeated a muslim MP.

How can a woman in the Lords stand as an MP?
Being arrested is different to being guilty of anything - in fact Lancashire Police never charged Malik with anything and apologised to him for the arrest.

**Barry** · 13-05-2010, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by newspresenter

Warsi is also an Islamist...why didn't she stand in the area she was born in?

She is not an Islamist.
This post shows such ignorance of terminology.
newspresenter, you are going to join Kiwi on my mental "ignore list" very shortly.

**newspresenter** · 14-05-2010, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by Don

I give up. Why didn't she? Why not ask her instead of this endless prattle and innuendo?

I hoped to ask politically curious minds, im sorry you got involved.

**newspresenter** · 14-05-2010, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by Barry

How can a woman in the Lords stand as an MP?

Is it against the law to step down from the Lords?

**newspresenter** · 14-05-2010, 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by Barry

She is not an Islamist.
newspresenter, you are going to join Kiwi on my mental "ignore list" very shortly.

An Islamist is a muslim, she is a muslim.
Does this mean i won't get silly replies?

**Don** · 14-05-2010, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by newspresenter

I hoped to ask politically curious minds, im sorry you got involved.

Nice try ace, but it doesn't wash and you know it. You apparently get off on this type of crap, spreading innuendo is your typical modus operandi. You ask this stuff acting oh so innocent, but you never answer questions that are asked of you. You are so transparent.

I'm with Barry, you now go on my ignore list. I'm sure that will make you happy.

**Major Sinic** · 14-05-2010, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by newspresenter

An Islamist is a muslim, she is a muslim.
Does this mean i won't get silly replies?

A poodle is a dog, but a dog is not necessarily a poodle. Make silly statements and you might get silly replies.

**stevectaylor** · 14-05-2010, 09:35 AM

Seems a little hypocritical of the monarchy when Victoria married a German and Elizabeth a Greek and did not the King abdicate for an American?

**newspresenter** · 14-05-2010, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Major Sinic

A poodle is a dog, but a dog is not necessarily a poodle. Make silly statements and you might get silly replies.

Do you ever read back your own sillyness?

**newspresenter** · 14-05-2010, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by stevectaylor

Seems a little hypocritical of the monarchy when Victoria married a German and Elizabeth a Greek and did not the King abdicate for an American?

Not really, cos they had alot of control of those decisions. The Monarch might be concerned about a muslim who should've stood and defeated another muslim. How bad would it look in the Islamist world had a female muslim stood against and defeated a male Islamist?