United Kingdom People's Party - Party run by the people

[LpmRaven]

Hello everyone, my name is Liam and I have a dream.

My dream is of a British politics run by the people. A party where the people (British voters) decide on what our great taxes go towards, deciding on the budgets and having a bit of fun in politics, open discussions between both sides, no shouting at each other to score political points but ordinary people spreading wisdom around our nation. Our values!


Well I had that dream on 21/05/2010 and I’m a man of action. So on that morning I woke up, had a shower, brushed my teeth, put on some clothes and got to work (with a cup of tea.) I will save you on details about myself because this isn't about me; it’s about our great British Nation.

I got out my pen and pages of paper and as I have done many days before I started to design a website. (I am a web designer - mostly artwork)

I am here to ask for Your Help!

I’m not planning a government reform but a party creation - I know there’s many small parties around the country but I believe this one could become a big player if we gain the right support and can advertise our site as if a game or a product where people can discuss and make changes to their opinions, voting and setting figures, suggesting new ideas and getting rid of old and unpopular laws.

Here is a list of site features and how I believe this great system could work.

Features:

Initial loading screen
- (black with central logo and a loader) - some fancy flash scripting.

Home Page
- Header with UKPP logo
- Register/login
- Background video (a old looking video with clips of the Britain we hate and the Britain we love, including military footage, Churchill, WW1, WW2, riots, police brutality, houses of parliament etc.)
- left menu (flash) (Home, Budget, Armed Forces, Jobs, Services, the law, Foreign policy, home affairs, your choice, suggestions, regions)
- Turn on/off ambient (top right)
- Turn on/off video (top right)

All pages (except home, initial loading screen, budget)
- Video change
- Right box appears (transparent black) with current policies (all vote able), comment able.
- New policy button (allows medium/high members to bring ideas of their own into the system by creating detailed ideas (must be kept up to date, editable)
- Thinks to do link (link to separate tab page with a list of things that the user is suggested to do)

Budget
-Slide able bars (Armed forces, Services, Health, etc.)
- change button (for people who decide to change their budget they have submitted.
- Party budget (the overall average of every user’s submitted budget)


Member system
- Every UK citizen over the age of 16 is accepted. - Name, postcode, age and email address required.
- No multi-accounts. (All user accounts must be linked to facebook)
- Members that have voted over 50 times/been a member for a month/have done all "things to do" will have access to create new policy suggestions as well as the ability to become a representative of UKPP)
- UKPP representatives that are highly active (on the site 5 times a week and have voted on over 100 policies) will be able to run for a region of the country, as a UKPP candidate in elections - we are also trying to sort out a system to get into councils.

I'm trying to think of things that we could include to keep people using the site (playing it like a game) but a game that has actual effects.

Discussions and voting

First week of an issue being created people will be given time to submit a easy application to run for second leader of the attack or opposition - the leader will be the person that submitted the idea, he/she will be able to stand down and allow the second leader to take over after a 48 hour period (where they can pass on any information related to the idea). The highest ranking member that applies for the position will be accepted after a 7 day automatic period. The person winning the application for second leader will be displayed and their rank included. The leaders of both sides will be able to manage their issue points and create a video/text based/audio based entry that will be displayed to the public. Once both sides have submitted their issue points then voting will be open and will close after 2 weeks if a 80% majority is gained, if this is not gained then the issue will be kept open for voting for another 2 weeks again and again until a 80% majority is met. Once accepted this will become the party policy. To scrap the policy 30% of site members must vote to scrap it.

I hope everyone understood that. If not ill cut it down into points.

I hope if we get this site up and running and it becomes a hit with the British public then we can gain a majority in the commons and that in effect will mean that every one of the party candidates must vote for our policies or they will be kicked out and replaced.

We also would welcome members of other political parties to join our site and vote for issues, however candidates and appointed ministers of other parties may not create issues or become second leaders of issues - they may be appointed as issue advisors though by the issue leader.

Hope people can give me some feedback for this idea.

I'm also looking for some web design help; I am good at the web art but not so good at coding or flash. This site will require skills in flash and HTML (my senior coder has agreed to help code the HTML but I’m afraid we will need some more dedicated members to this cause or it may take a few years.

[soloman]

Hello everyone, my name is Liam and I have a dream.

My dream is of a British politics run by the people. A party where the people (British voters) decide on what our great taxes go towards, deciding on the budgets and having a bit of fun in politics, open discussions between both sides, no shouting at each other to score political points but ordinary people spreading wisdom around our nation. Our values!


Well I had that dream on 21/05/2010 and I’m a man of action. So on that morning I woke up, had a shower, brushed my teeth, put on some clothes and got to work (with a cup of tea.) I will save you on details about myself because this isn't about me; it’s about our great British Nation.

I got out my pen and pages of paper and as I have done many days before I started to design a website. (I am a web designer - mostly artwork)

I am here to ask for Your Help!

I’m not planning a government reform but a party creation - I know there’s many small parties around the country but I believe this one could become a big player if we gain the right support and can advertise our site as if a game or a product where people can discuss and make changes to their opinions, voting and setting figures, suggesting new ideas and getting rid of old and unpopular laws.

Here is a list of site features and how I believe this great system could work.

Features:

Initial loading screen
- (black with central logo and a loader) - some fancy flash scripting.

Home Page
- Header with UKPP logo
- Register/login
- Background video (a old looking video with clips of the Britain we hate and the Britain we love, including military footage, Churchill, WW1, WW2, riots, police brutality, houses of parliament etc.)
- left menu (flash) (Home, Budget, Armed Forces, Jobs, Services, the law, Foreign policy, home affairs, your choice, suggestions, regions)
- Turn on/off ambient (top right)
- Turn on/off video (top right)

All pages (except home, initial loading screen, budget)
- Video change
- Right box appears (transparent black) with current policies (all vote able), comment able.
- New policy button (allows medium/high members to bring ideas of their own into the system by creating detailed ideas (must be kept up to date, editable)
- Thinks to do link (link to separate tab page with a list of things that the user is suggested to do)

Budget
-Slide able bars (Armed forces, Services, Health, etc.)
- change button (for people who decide to change their budget they have submitted.
- Party budget (the overall average of every user’s submitted budget)


Member system
- Every UK citizen over the age of 16 is accepted. - Name, postcode, age and email address required.
- No multi-accounts. (All user accounts must be linked to facebook)
- Members that have voted over 50 times/been a member for a month/have done all "things to do" will have access to create new policy suggestions as well as the ability to become a representative of UKPP)
- UKPP representatives that are highly active (on the site 5 times a week and have voted on over 100 policies) will be able to run for a region of the country, as a UKPP candidate in elections - we are also trying to sort out a system to get into councils.

I'm trying to think of things that we could include to keep people using the site (playing it like a game) but a game that has actual effects.

Discussions and voting

First week of an issue being created people will be given time to submit a easy application to run for second leader of the attack or opposition - the leader will be the person that submitted the idea, he/she will be able to stand down and allow the second leader to take over after a 48 hour period (where they can pass on any information related to the idea). The highest ranking member that applies for the position will be accepted after a 7 day automatic period. The person winning the application for second leader will be displayed and their rank included. The leaders of both sides will be able to manage their issue points and create a video/text based/audio based entry that will be displayed to the public. Once both sides have submitted their issue points then voting will be open and will close after 2 weeks if a 80% majority is gained, if this is not gained then the issue will be kept open for voting for another 2 weeks again and again until a 80% majority is met. Once accepted this will become the party policy. To scrap the policy 30% of site members must vote to scrap it.

I hope everyone understood that. If not ill cut it down into points.

I hope if we get this site up and running and it becomes a hit with the British public then we can gain a majority in the commons and that in effect will mean that every one of the party candidates must vote for our policies or they will be kicked out and replaced.

We also would welcome members of other political parties to join our site and vote for issues, however candidates and appointed ministers of other parties may not create issues or become second leaders of issues - they may be appointed as issue advisors though by the issue leader.

Hope people can give me some feedback for this idea.

I'm also looking for some web design help; I am good at the web art but not so good at coding or flash. This site will require skills in flash and HTML (my senior coder has agreed to help code the HTML but I’m afraid we will need some more dedicated members to this cause or it may take a few years.

Interesting but inevitably theoretical post!

The most significant reason it won't work is that use of the internet is not spread uniformly throughout the population.

[LpmRaven]

Interesting but inevitably theoretical post!

The most significant reason it won't work is that use of the internet is not spread uniformly throughout the population.

I think the point of the post was to goin help so that it was not inevitably theoretical.

The internet is available to everyone that wishes to gain access to it in the UK. It soon will be spread uniformally.

[Jack.Parys]

I don't think this idea of a political system where contributions are made in a manner such as the one you are suggest would be a good thing, yes the belief that everyone should have their say is fundamental to democracy and human society but it has to be in the right format and it has to be regulated in the right kind of way.

If i could use a metaphor to explain what i mean:

A philosopher name Bourges came up with a hypothetical situation, It is called Bourges Library (the library is a metaphor for the world and the books human intelligence)

Say you had a library which was infinitely large - because of its infinite size, all words and every possible arrangement of these words most be in the library
Therefore a book containing instructions on how the library works and who created it must exist somewhere in it.
But due to the infinite size of the library it would be nigh on impossible to find.

So why im trying to say is a format such as the internet where there is so many people contributing and at such a rate, it is near on impossible to sift through the multitude of information to find the truly good ideas and if they do surface it may just be for a second before they make they're next tweet. I know what im saying is biased and i know people who aren't interested in the issues are unlikely to contribute. But i think (and im aware of the elitism inherent in what im saying) that creating a combining a social networking environment and real decision making is a risky business. As most people (including myself) are incapable of making informed decisions for the good of a society, as the needs of an individual are inevitably different from that of a society as they will inevitably personalize the issues. And to give an (utterly generalised example) most people will make decisions on issues almost instantly through instinct rather than intellect and they will then rationalise those emotional decisions with they're rational mind.

Having said all this i think it is of the important that something is done rapidly to counteract the cynicism in the ability to change politics for the better and conversely the ability for politics to change society for the better.

But personally i think this type of site would be better kept separate from the actual peoples party itself maybe just have it as a micro-site within the UKPP's main website. and kept as a site to celebrate the culture, history and diversity of our society and also as a platform for us to voice our diversity of opinions. But please for the sake of the UK get rid of this idea of making the site like a game to keep people interest, i admit that politics is quite stale and uninteresting at times but i think it would send the wrong type of message.
But essentially a good idea

Jack

[soloman]

I think I follow your drift Jack.Parys!

As you correctly infer, personal head to head discussion is the only real way to participate in political discussion, and so far, all internet ideas proposed would fail to be balanced as the population at large does not uniformally use the medium?

[Midas]

I think I follow your drift Jack.Parys!

As you correctly infer, personal head to head discussion is the only real way to participate in political discussion, and so far, all internet ideas proposed would fail to be balanced as the population at large does not uniformally use the medium?

But even if there was a uniform spread and usage of the internet as a medium of discussion, it would be physically impossible for there to be a complete one to one exchange of views on every topic of government. The best we can hope for is to use the internet as one of a range of communications mediums to keep as many people as possible informed of proposed plans and legislation and to obtain a sample of their views, using that as as a basis for national opinion.