What's next?

[AngloChimp12]

First our country was sent into depression by- well, before I continue, everyone has an opinion to this; personally I think Gordon Brown took us out of the economy, not to say he did well as the PM, but that's another matter. Regardless, we're now in a coalition government between the Liberal Democrats and the Conservative parties.

I love Britain as much as the next person, but I want to see this fail, because if it does then; yes, we will be in for some rough times, but it will give someone else the chance to develop the country in a better way. I myself want to take that charge on and will hopefully attempt it in my later life, but again; it's another matter.

My question is; what do you people think will happen next?

My honest opinion is that it will triumph, but Clegg won't stay in the shadow forever, and when it all crashes down, that will be the really interesting time, politically speaking for the UK.

[Major Sinic]

First our country was sent into depression by- well, before I continue, everyone has an opinion to this; personally I think Gordon Brown took us out of the economy, not to say he did well as the PM, but that's another matter. Regardless, we're now in a coalition government between the Liberal Democrats and the Conservative parties.

I love Britain as much as the next person, but I want to see this fail, because if it does then; yes, we will be in for some rough times, but it will give someone else the chance to develop the country in a better way. I myself want to take that charge on and will hopefully attempt it in my later life, but again; it's another matter.

My question is; what do you people think will happen next?

My honest opinion is that it will triumph, but Clegg won't stay in the shadow forever, and when it all crashes down, that will be the really interesting time, politically speaking for the UK.

Well you are a cheerful chimp. Despite the desperate economic situation that this country is in, you actually want this coalition government to fail? Despite the fact that for the first time in living memory there is a realistic opportunity for real electoral reform and increased democracy, you want this government to fail?

You refer to giving 'someone else the chance to develop the country in a better way'. Who, and under what structure, and frankly what chance would any alternative regime have if this coalition collapses, when one considers the international ramifications of our bankruptcy, for that would be the most likely economic outcome of failure. We are in for rough times even if the Liberal Conservative Coalition Government is resoundingly successful over the next five years. Rough times does not even begin to describe life in Britain if it fails.

I did not originally have the highest regard for either Cameron or Clegg, but I feel we are witnessing two genuinely capable and committed politicians growing in stature daily. Two political parties with substantially different policies in many areas, have come together and through compromise and negotiation, and in recognition of the national interest are achieving consensus. I think that they, along with the other prime movers within and behind the coalition, believe, as I do, that this is not just the best chance but the only chance, we have to draw away from the economic abyss we face. To fail will be to sentence our children and our children's children to a life none of us would want or welcome.

[AngloChimp12]

For it to fail, it would be sentencing -your- children, I've no children and don't plan on having any for a long time, and honestly; if you want a long lasting government that requires no change, move to China and suck up the communist atmosphere that is dawning over the edge of moving onto a more social political movement. If you really want this country to work then think it over to yourself on how it will work, because from where I stand; a dictator is the best solution.

[Major Sinic]

For it to fail, it would be sentencing -your- children, I've no children and don't plan on having any for a long time, and honestly; if you want a long lasting government that requires no change, move to China and suck up the communist atmosphere that is dawning over the edge of moving onto a more social political movement. If you really want this country to work then think it over to yourself on how it will work, because from where I stand; a dictator is the best solution.

That is certainly left field. I believe this country needs stable, rather than long lasting government. As a committed believer in a parliamentary democracy, I will decline you kind suggestion of packing me off to China, although I do accept that economically China will show us a thing or two over the next five years. For the same reason I would object to living under a dictatorship so I imagine we will find little common ground. Nevertheless I welcome you to the forum, although I have no doubt you will receive a more formal welcome from one of the long-suffering mods in due course.

[AngloChimp12]

Thanks for the welcome, mate- and I think China's at its peak currently, but it will fall if it remains under a communist-party, it always happens.

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[Midas]

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[crazylilting]

Why would anyone want our government to fail at such a fragile time in our history? I think a coalition has more chance to succeed then a single party does at this time. We have to deal with issues at hand not put forth agendas. I don't think any one platform has the answers, if they did there would of been a landslide vote for them. All we can do is vote for the one least likely to mess things up and i think we came out with a better deal then anyone could of imagined with the last election.

[Streetwalker]

I love Britain as much as the next person, but I want to see this fail, because if it does then; yes, we will be in for some rough times, but it will give someone else the chance to develop the country in a better way. I myself want to take that charge on and will hopefully attempt it in my later life, but again; it's another matter.

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Are you Charlie Windsor by any chance ?

[AngloChimp12]

No, I'm not, and the fact I want it to fail is because I want the country to see that we need -one- ruler, not a bunch of squabbling old men attempting to create a financially sound country when they can't even prevent the statistics of immigration rising when they're oh-so dedicated to it.

[MrMature]

We absolutely need this Coalition Government to fail, and fail quickly. Yes, I am bitter because I am one of the first casualties of this new Government, the details of which you can find in the Welcome page of my blog. My problem with this Government is NOT that they have to make cuts (my God there are many areas of bloated overspend), it’s the fact that they appear to have no compassion or understanding of what's it's like for the people who will be deprived of their livelihood. In my case they did not carry our their pre-election promise to have a 100 day consultation period on the abolition of Home Information Packs.

Consider the record so far;

• They keep talking about “being in this together and having to share the pain”. I’m sorry but the poor of this country who are receiving benefits did not cause this crisis. This crisis was caused by greedy bankers whose bonus depended on how many deals they did no matter how risky, and irresponsible lending to ‘middle England’ in loans and mortgages who just kept borrowing (because they were allowed to).
• The abolition of the Schools refubishment and buildings plan. Assuming they are right about the Labour funding would it not have been better to release an alternative plan at the same time as anouncing the abolition of Labour's program (not to mention the incompetance in the way the abolition was announced with its many errors and revisions). Definately a Google Page Ranking disaster.
• Michael Gove rushed the 'Academies' Bill through saying that there were over a 1000 schools wanting to be academies. Today it's been announced that only 153 have applied, and even those may not be granted Academy status by September
• Restructuring of the NHS – there was nothing about this In the Tory or LibDem manifesto. Giving GPs responsibility of 80% of the local NHS funding is absolutely preposterous. It’s been tried before and didn’t work? Now we know that £2m has been set aside for this restructuring which has, at best, a dubious benefit for the patient. It looks likes Privatisation by the back door as private companies will be engaged to manage the GP funds.
• Cameron’s ‘Big Society’ – Google Page Ranking disaster. It comes across as having volunteers doing the jobs of local welfare who are about lose their jobs due to the ‘cuts’.

I could go on but time to stop. Don't get me started on the Police cuts & reforms which we now know will require lots of expenditure.

[Greg Lance-Watkins]

We absolutely need this Coalition Government to fail, and fail quickly. Yes, I am bitter because I am one of the first casualties of this new Government, the details of which you can find in the Welcome page of my blog. My problem with this Government is NOT that they have to make cuts (my God there are many areas of bloated overspend), it’s the fact that they appear to have no compassion or understanding of what's it's like for the people who will be deprived of their livelihood. In my case they did not carry our their pre-election promise to have a 100 day consultation period on the abolition of Home Information Packs.

Hi,

no but you need the brains of a chicken to think they were a good idea - which probably explains why Labour/Communist government brought the idiotic idea in.

At least with them gone we stand a chance of a few extra houses selling without waiting 100 days to get rid of an idea by idiots for idiots.

Won't it be great you can look for a real job now rather than doing one an ant knew was a waste of time and money.

Just like almost the entire QUANGOcracy the kleptocratic Communist syled Lasbour Party brought in to choke Britain with non jobs and time wasters.

Don't blame the present ghastly government blame the dishonest, corrupt, liars and treacherous Labour Communist EU led scum we have just got rid of - it was they who sold off and privatised more in the unlucky 13 years of their vile misrule than in the preceding century and it was they who with PFI and outright borrowing left us with £13 Trillion of insurmoutable debt.

The list of those who should be on trial for Crimes Against Huimanity, War Crimes and outright treachery in betrayal of these United Kingdoms in the Labour 13 years of damage is long.

You lost your job because your job was set up as a con - blame the con artists Labour.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

[coalition]

You are not alone out there I have published on this site, since before the Elections that the Economic and Political system were ripe for a Dictatorship, have a look at the Seige of Whitehall and other Blogs.

"to preach austerity as the solution to depression is the equivalent of drilling holes in your head to cure your migraine while dismissing aspirin as for wusses" A very detailed explanation as to why Cameron and Osbourne are dangerous imbeciles. Exactly like Hitler, and got power exactly like Hitler.

[coalition]

Hi,

no but you need the brains of a chicken to think they were a good idea - which probably explains why Labour/Communist government brought the idiotic idea in.

At least with them gone we stand a chance of a few extra houses selling without waiting 100 days to get rid of an idea by idiots for idiots.

Won't it be great you can look for a real job now rather than doing one an ant knew was a waste of time and money.

Just like almost the entire QUANGOcracy the kleptocratic Communist syled Lasbour Party brought in to choke Britain with non jobs and time wasters.

Don't blame the present ghastly government blame the dishonest, corrupt, liars and treacherous Labour Communist EU led scum we have just got rid of - it was they who sold off and privatised more in the unlucky 13 years of their vile misrule than in the preceding century and it was they who with PFI and outright borrowing left us with £13 Trillion of insurmoutable debt.

The list of those who should be on trial for Crimes Against Huimanity, War Crimes and outright treachery in betrayal of these United Kingdoms in the Labour 13 years of damage is long.

You lost your job because your job was set up as a con - blame the con artists Labour.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

Communist Greg? New labour were further to the right than Jesus. And, Christianity was a religeon birthed in the Middle East and brought to the West by Constantine, we never needed this infantile ME insanity, and we don't want the 2nd version (muslims) either: we do have sufficient nutters of our own.

[radical change]

the coalition will fall after the 5th of may (AV referendum)

Conservatives or labour will win the election and the lib dems will lose another 5 seats.

We'll be back to the same old 2 party politics

[Avoter]

hello everyone I am new and as my name shows I am just a voter, with no agenda other than hoping the last twenty years of my life might be better that the first forty odd. We seem to just keep on going round in circles with the young wanting to man the barricades and the old to just leave it be.

In answer to the thread:-

Lets hope that the coalition does not fail on your prediction eh... Some of us don't have the time for revolution my friend. just because we are older doesn't give you the right to 'Dictate' a way of life.
Why can't we find out what is happening like decent humans. if the politicians were to introduce an abstention vote onto the voting form it would send a message that we need a radical but careful rethink about how we govern ourselves. Note I say ourselves.
My personal opinion for what it is worth is that we should take up executive Government with a non partisan parliament given the final say on legislation. Yes, there would be corruption, yes, there would be abuse, but at least there would be an end to this awful swing from one ideology to the other, with a long term view on life in general. Who knows we may even be followed by others, wouldn't that be novel

[Midas]

hello everyone I am new and as my name shows I am just a voter, with no agenda other than hoping the last twenty years of my life might be better that the first forty odd. We seem to just keep on going round in circles with the young wanting to man the barricades and the old to just leave it be.

In answer to the thread:-

Lets hope that the coalition does not fail on your prediction eh... Some of us don't have the time for revolution my friend. just because we are older doesn't give you the right to 'Dictate' a way of life.
Why can't we find out what is happening like decent humans. if the politicians were to introduce an abstention vote onto the voting form it would send a message that we need a radical but careful rethink about how we govern ourselves. Note I say ourselves.
My personal opinion for what it is worth is that we should take up executive Government with a non partisan parliament given the final say on legislation. Yes, there would be corruption, yes, there would be abuse, but at least there would be an end to this awful swing from one ideology to the other, with a long term view on life in general. Who knows we may even be followed by others, wouldn't that be novel

Hi Avoter, and welcome to the Politics Forum!

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Enjoy the debates

[coalition]

hello everyone I am new and as my name shows I am just a voter, with no agenda other than hoping the last twenty years of my life might be better that the first forty odd. We seem to just keep on going round in circles with the young wanting to man the barricades and the old to just leave it be.

In answer to the thread:-

Lets hope that the coalition does not fail on your prediction eh... Some of us don't have the time for revolution my friend. just because we are older doesn't give you the right to 'Dictate' a way of life.
Why can't we find out what is happening like decent humans. if the politicians were to introduce an abstention vote onto the voting form it would send a message that we need a radical but careful rethink about how we govern ourselves. Note I say ourselves.
My personal opinion for what it is worth is that we should take up executive Government with a non partisan parliament given the final say on legislation. Yes, there would be corruption, yes, there would be abuse, but at least there would be an end to this awful swing from one ideology to the other, with a long term view on life in general. Who knows we may even be followed by others, wouldn't that be novel

Yes, I advocated a 'Barebones Parliament' it was successful in its time. Welcome to a little frustration but good fun.