WikiLeaks and Britain's part in the illegal and unjustified war

[abufaiz]

The recent leak of information from the well-known anti-war, website wiki leaks has exposed the mounting casualties in the Afghanistan war.
After the release of this information US spokesman Robert Gibbs held a press conference and when asked about the president's reaction to this, his concern was not for the innocent people who had been slaughtered and forgotten about but his sole concern lay with the security of the perpetrators and did not suggest into looking into the cases or bringing any charges against these criminals.
Rather they try to deflect from this by making their main concern catching the one who has exposed these crimes only last year when Obama travelled to Egypt where he gave a speech in Cairo he quoted a verse from the Quran 'when you kill one innocent human it is like you have killed the whole of mankind'.
This quote seems lost on him as since he has come into office we have seen an increase in drone attacks as well as soldiers killing and maiming hundreds of innocent individuals is this how they aim to win the hearts and minds, so that freedom and democracy can be implemented?
Ironically it seems that democracy will be imposed through fear and intimidation. The true nature of their acts have been made clear for the world to see.
Britain has a part to play in this and the British Citizens should be ashamed of what their government has done in their name. Please see this video YouTube - Kanal von thereflectproject and also visit The Reflect Project - Bringing Awareness to the Co

[Barry]

Obama was quoting from the Qur'an to big himself up in front of a mainly Muslim audience. Obama claims to be a Christian, then quotes from the Qur'an?
In fact, this false president of peace, the winner of the Nobel peace prize for doing absolutely nothing, has increased the number of troops fighting against Muslims in Afghanistan.
Your website is a little partisan. Welcome to the forum.

[Midas]

An interesting and informed observation from a friend of mine following the documents published in WikiLeaks where he speculates the leaks might have been deliberate. In other words, the US leaked the files to set up Pakistan as the reason for their failure to capture, hold, maintain and pacify Afghanistan and to justify further action.

His opinion - speculative, but a very informed given his background in the diplomatic service and 12 years spent in Iran......

This gives the officials in Washington cover ("wasn't our fault"), allows

continuing black ops in Afghanistan and Pakistan indefinitely after the withdrawal, AND takes the heat off of Iran as the culprit in chief. Which in turn will allow the US to slowly tune down the rhetoric regarding the use of air power against Iran.

There is by the way another item in this scenario. The Taliban have always been very hostile towards the Iranian regime. ANY government in Afghanistan that does not comprise large structural components manned by Talibans, would by definition be in the interest of Iran, and most probably beneficial to it. After all, the warlords in the Northern part of Afghanistan (remember, the guys who initially did the fighting and who were the ones who actually beat the Taliban in the field twice?) at the onset of the war, were in Iran's pocket and allied themselves with the US after a clear and public nod from Tehran.

Maybe Washingtonians woke up to the fact that their little adventures East and West of Iran actually gave the Iranians regional security for the first time since the early Qajar Empire - and are scaring the living daylight out of the fiefdoms and principalities and even the Stans in the area?

Don't ask me to comment on it, my knowledge of the politics and power plays in the region is very limited.

[Yeti]

"WikiLeaks and Britain's part in the illegal and unjustified war" Illegal and unjustified war?
Firstly the Taliban where not the elected Government of Afghanistan, they seized power by force of arms and imposed there will, laws upon the people via intimidation, violence, torture and murder. They hosted and sponsored several Terrorist groups bent on killing other innocent people. They denied education and healthcare not to mention basic human right to the female population of the country, and aloud the drugs trade to flourish in the county, something disliked by the majority of the population and Islam as a whole. How his is this war unjustified? The terrorist groups backed and supported by the Taliban attacked the west with no justification, how is retaliation unjustified?

If the Taliban put down their weapons, and allowed the Afghan nation forces to provide security and the rule of law NATO forces would leave. They could sit in the compound and abuse their women folks as much as they like, but they won't leave there neighbors alone to live as they wish. Problem is the Taliban want to be back in power, they want to enforce their views and life style on their neighbors, and they will kill to achieve this. So they will continue to plant bombs and use suicide bombers, and ambush NATO troops whilst surrounded by civilians in attempt to get as many none combatants killed as possible. The locals know and understand this, it only the press that makes a massive issue about it. The west doesn't want to be in Afghanistan, its costing lives and a shed load of money, we would much rather leave Afghanistan the hell alone but as long the Taliban support terrorism and the drugs trade we will have to stay. Until the economy recovers and the Government gets strong enough to control and manage the country we can't leave, because as soon as we do the power will go off the water will stop flowing and the hospitals will slowly cease to function.

Will the Muslim world step up a help, will they provide troops? Will they hell they can barely run there on affairs.

[DaveUK]

"WikiLeaks and Britain's part in the illegal and unjustified war" Illegal and unjustified war?
[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Firstly the Taliban where not the elected Government of Afghanistan, they seized power by force of arms and imposed there will, laws upon the people via intimidation, violence, torture and murder.

So do lots of other countries that we call our allies.

They denied education and healthcare not to mention basic human right to the female population of the country

So do lots of other countries that we call our allies.

and aloud the drugs trade to flourish in the county, something disliked by the majority of the population and Islam as a whole.

Opium production in Afghanistan has increased by over 3000% since 2001, under US occupation.

the Taliban support terrorism and the drugs trade

State sponsored terrorism is nothing new, it's practiced most prolifically by the US and Israel. It's usually funded by illegal narcotics trading under the control of secret services like the CIA and Mossad.

The west couldn't give a dam about the fate of the Afghan people. Had the Taliban been willing to play ball with US energy and mineral corperations, they'd still be in power now.

[Yeti]

So do lots of other countries that we call our allies.



So do lots of other countries that we call our allies.



Opium production in Afghanistan has increased by over 3000% since 2001, under US occupation.



State sponsored terrorism is nothing new, it's practiced most prolifically by the US and Israel. It's usually funded by illegal narcotics trading under the control of secret services like the CIA and Mossad.

The west couldn't give a dam about the fate of the Afghan people. Had the Taliban been willing to play ball with US energy and mineral corperations, they'd still be in power now.

There are very few military or religious dictatorships in the world with human rights records like the Taliban, and none are allies of the UK.

Again Afghanistan under the Taliban control is the only country that i am aware of that actually actively denied healthcare and education to female members of their populations? Certainly none of the UK allies have such polices? Even Iran and Saudi which are devot Islamic nations would not counternace such behaviour?

In Nato controlled areas drug production has fallen as the production of food has increased and the establishment of markets has vastly improved the economy, in those areas controlled by the Taliban and drug gangs and out side of the control on nato forces drug production has increased massively as a way of providing funding for their the military campain.

The CIA and mossad? You'll be blaming them for 9’11 next.