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    Spot the missing word? Times Square Car Bomb

    New York Times Square Car Bomb
    Didn't quite go off.
    White suspect.
    Man arrested - had boarded a plane to Dubai.
    American citizen.
    Pakistan was mentioned.
    Name - Faisal Shahzad

    The modus operandi was just the same as the "Tiger Tiger" attempted bombing.

    Times Square car bomb: police arrest Pakistani-born man over failed attack - Telegraph

    The Pakistani Taliban have claimed responsibility.
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    You can bet that if it were a Christian, the headline would read "Christian Arrested in Terror Plot". But, since it's a Muslim, nothing but chirping crickets.
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    You can bet that if it were a Christian, the headline would read "Christian Arrested in Terror Plot"..
    No it wouldn't have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen Smith View Post
    No it wouldn't have.
    Do enlighten us with your thoughts as to what it would have been then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midas View Post
    Do enlighten us with your thoughts as to what it would have been then.
    (Wo)Man arrested in terror plot?

    It's the telegraph for god's sake, hardly bastion of the liberal media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen Smith View Post
    No it wouldn't have.
    If it were a religiously motivated attack it certainly would. And, with Muslims, EVERYTHING is religiously motivated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tantal View Post
    And, with Muslims, EVERYTHING is religiously motivated.
    Erm, no it's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JacquesMagique View Post
    Erm, no it's not.
    Sure it is. People are always being threatened (VanGogh, South Park, etc.) for insulting Mohammed. They think that every time their little feelings get hurt, they should respond with a bomb or a beheading. Personally, I hope that the paedophile Mohammed, pi$$ be upon him, is smoking a turd in hell as we speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tantal View Post
    Sure it is. People are always being threatened (VanGogh, South Park, etc.) for insulting Mohammed. They think that every time their little feelings get hurt, they should respond with a bomb or a beheading. Personally, I hope that the paedophile Mohammed, pi$$ be upon him, is smoking a turd in hell as we speak.
    People are always being threatened by a small minority. History is littered with examples of violence by muslims for none religious purposes, take the mujahadine or PLO for example.

    Wait, Van Gogh????
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    Theo Van Gogh - get with the program!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JacquesMagique View Post
    People are always being threatened by a small minority. History is littered with examples of violence by muslims for none religious purposes, take the mujahadine or PLO for example.

    Wait, Van Gogh????
    Small minority, about a third of the global population!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tantal View Post
    You can bet that if it were a Christian, the headline would read "Christian Arrested in Terror Plot". But, since it's a Muslim, nothing but chirping crickets.
    Not often it happens but no one described Koresh as a christian, oh he wasnt, he was a nutter and he shagged kids and claimed to be the son of god( how he justified shagging kids).

    Timothy Mc veigh was a christian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pauli007001 View Post
    Small minority, about a third of the global population!!!
    A third of the global population are violent islamists? ok....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tantal View Post
    If it were a religiously motivated attack it certainly would. And, with Muslims, EVERYTHING is religiously motivated.
    Much is motivated by the faith but many acts commited by Moslems are based on a culture that outdates Islam by centuries, Bride burning for example is a traditional Indian form of increasing a dowery after the marrage has happened, originally practised by Hindhus.Still though I would agree in part that this is more than likely a moslem terror attack, kind of like the failed one on the london tube ( when the bomber stood next to a mother and child and tried to set off his device) or the failed one in Glasgow airport, these ****ers are so retarded that they cant even manage to kill themselves never mind others, I see victory on the horizon, thse daft ****s cant see that they will never enslave the west by killing themselves and their fellow moslems, retards dosent say enough about em!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JacquesMagique View Post
    A third of the global population are violent islamists? ok....
    Did I specify violent Islamists being a third of the worlds population?
    Do stop with the strawman tactics every time you lose the ability to formulate an intelligent opinion, you might as well go down the TETE route and start calling people fat ****s alcoholics and retards for disagreeing with you!!!!!
    About a third of the worlds population are moslems, about a quarter of them voice support for or activly get involved in violence.To many others to speak out against Islamic violence would be considered wrong so they say nothing.Ask a sunni Moslem to condemn an act of violence by a sunni against any Infidel(non Sunni), i would recomend you dont hold your breath.
    Perhaps you should read what you are responding to, I would also recomend you learn a little about the moslem faith, currently you see it as a racial group not a religion.If only you had ever been to a moslem country, Afghanistan for example may be interesting for you, or even better Saudi, Mecca and medina specifically, During the HAJ might offer more insight.Particulary when you see how Non Sunnis are treated in those places, even during Haj!!****es are Infidel, Shia are infidel, sunni who are not wahibi are infidel, now seriously have you any real experience of the Islamic faith?Ever lived with an Islamic family, been to a mosque, learned the minute differences between the sects of Islam, dances with the dervish,any of the above? No? None?

    I have, i know about Islam and see where Tantal is coming from, thing is Islam is more than Sunni or wahibbi, Tantal will possibly read upon this, you should do the same.

    Did you know that the racial group you call Moslem in Afghanistan includes people who are Brown, people who are Yellow(like the chinese) and people who are white?A vast number of Afghans are white with green eyes, According to some versions of Hadith Mohammeds Father had Blue eyes, possibly Indicating that Mohammed was white/Mixed race, You have so much to learn!!!

    Dont know if Im the man to learn ya though!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pauli007001 View Post
    Small minority, about a third of the global population!!!
    Who represent a third of the world population Pauli? Certainly not Islamic Fundamentalists. It's estimated that overall, Muslims represent around 20% of the world's population, and of those I'd guess that less than 5% are even approaching what you'd term fundamentalists. Over the years I've spent a considerable amount of time travelling to many Muslim countries and talking to people, and I can honestly say that I've yet to meet anyone who meets the stereotypical image of an Islamic Fundamentalist. Yes, I've met plenty of people who're resentful of what they see as the Americanisation of the world, either militarily or commercially, but then again there are plenty of non-Muslims who hold exactly those same views; that doesn't make them either fundamentalist, extreme or dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midas View Post
    Who represent a third of the world population Pauli? Certainly not Islamic Fundamentalists. It's estimated that overall, Muslims represent around 20% of the world's population, and of those I'd guess that less than 5% are even approaching what you'd term fundamentalists. Over the years I've spent a considerable amount of time travelling to many Muslim countries and talking to people, and I can honestly say that I've yet to meet anyone who meets the stereotypical image of an Islamic Fundamentalist. Yes, I've met plenty of people who're resentful of what they see as the Americanisation of the world, either militarily or commercially, but then again there are plenty of non-Muslims who hold exactly those same views; that doesn't make them either fundamentalist, extreme or dangerous.
    OK as we find another strawman tactic used here(either that or somones simply cannot read), I refer you to my last post, MOSLEMS are a third of the worlds population, never once did I mention radical of fundimental moslems, you are either extremely dishonest( most likely given your inventivness in finding fault in other peoples arguments) or unable to read.Or perhaps this is some kind of dishonest and twisted scheme by you in order that you can remove me from the forum?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by pauli007001 View Post
    Did I specify violent Islamists being a third of the worlds population?
    I said people are threatened by a small minority, to which you said 'a small minority?! a third of the world population'

    About a third of the worlds population are moslems, about a quarter of them voice support for or activly get involved in violence.
    Well that's a completely made up figure if i've ever seen one.

    To many others to speak out against Islamic violence would be considered wrong so they say nothing.Ask a sunni Moslem to condemn an act of violence by a sunni against any Infidel(non Sunni), i would recomend you dont hold your breath.
    I live in a muslim neighbourhood, there is plenty of condemnation of attacks.

    Perhaps you should read what you are responding to, I would also recomend you learn a little about the moslem faith, currently you see it as a racial group not a religion.
    Erm no I don't.

    If only you had ever been to a moslem country, Afghanistan for example may be interesting for you, or even better Saudi, Mecca and medina specifically, During the HAJ might offer more insight.Particulary when you see how Non Sunnis are treated in those places, even during Haj!!****es are Infidel, Shia are infidel, sunni who are not wahibi are infidel, now seriously have you any real experience of the Islamic faith?Ever lived with an Islamic family, been to a mosque, learned the minute differences between the sects of Islam, dances with the dervish,any of the above? No? None?
    I've been to egypt, and again I live in an Islamic area. I've not done a dance with them though so I guess that gives you the upper hand.


    Did you know that the racial group you call Moslem in Afghanistan includes people who are Brown, people who are Yellow(like the chinese) and people who are white?A vast number of Afghans are white with green eyes, According to some versions of Hadith Mohammeds Father had Blue eyes, possibly Indicating that Mohammed was white/Mixed race, You have so much to learn!!!
    Not entirely sure I see the relevance of this, being as you've created a strawman suggesting I think Islam is a race, which is clearly bull****.
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    Less of the infighting people.
    You all seem to have guessed the missing word!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pauli007001 View Post
    OK as we find another strawman tactic used here(either that or somones simply cannot read), I refer you to my last post, MOSLEMS are a third of the worlds population, never once did I mention radical of fundimental moslems, you are either extremely dishonest( most likely given your inventivness in finding fault in other peoples arguments) or unable to read.Or perhaps this is some kind of dishonest and twisted scheme by you in order that you can remove me from the forum?????
    Dont twist what I have said, it is the height if Ignorance, but then again...........
    Pauli, Muslims aren't one third of the world's population, they're about 20%, one fifth, and less than 5% of those, i.e., about 1%, could be considered fundamental. Even among those fundamental Muslims, it's only a tiny fraction who're likely to initiate any form of violence against non-Muslims, but I will accept that if there was a 'call to arms' in the Islamic world, many would join in, undoubtedly a much higher percentage than would those of any other religion.
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    Why Would Anyone Want to Blow Up Times Square? :: Daniel Pipes

    The establishment agrees - Islam played no role in Faisal Shahzad's attempted terrorism.
    Thank goodness, it wasn't another Islamist attack. Nothing to see here, move on please.
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    Why Would Anyone Want to Blow Up Times Square? :: Daniel Pipes

    Thank goodness, it wasn't another Islamist attack. Nothing to see here, move on please.
    You do have to wonder though whether this was religiously motivated and that the authorities, perhaps wisely, have decided not to emphasise that aspect of the incident so as not to stir up further trouble.
    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised 'for the good of its victims' may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us 'for our own good' will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C.S. Lewis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midas View Post
    You do have to wonder though whether this was religiously motivated and that the authorities, perhaps wisely, have decided not to emphasise that aspect of the incident so as not to stir up further trouble.
    Yet tiptoeing around the issue makes it more likely to stir up trouble!!!!

    Like when the UK police issue a description of a criminal but dont mention race, that also makes a clear statement.

    The suspect was white 5 10 and of stocky build. Obvious what race he was from and OK to post the description on all media.

    The suspect was 5 10 and of stocky build. that would indicate the suspect was other than white.

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    Yet tiptoeing around the issue makes it more likely to stir up trouble!!!!

    Like when the UK police issue a description of a criminal but dont mention race, that also makes a clear statement.

    The suspect was white 5 10 and of stocky build. Obvious what race he was from and OK to post the description on all media.

    The suspect was 5 10 and of stocky build. that would indicate the suspect was other than white.
    You would only assume that the suspect was other than white if you were a racist.

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    You would only assume that the suspect was other than white if you were a racist.
    You would read the post before you commented on it if you actually had a point!!

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    You would read the post before you commented on it if you actually had a point!!
    The point stands and your preoccupation with race and open support for organisations such as the BNP lead me to conclude that you are a racist. It's only my observation - no need to get all upset!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tete123 View Post
    The point stands and your preoccupation with race and open support for organisations such as the BNP lead me to conclude that you are a racist. It's only my observation - no need to get all upset!
    Your compulsive desire to post blatent untruths is grounds to show you as what?

    No preoccupation with race, that is you (as Usual) twisting my words to fit your mode of attack(a throwback to your Nulab days I guess).No open support for the BNP either, again you are either confusing me with some other internet based person(the only people you interact with apparently) or are making stuff up again.Recently I was Issues a final warning By Midas for critisising the BNP and their policies, You should try a little reality orientation, I am Pauli007001 not some other persona you have debated on this or any other of the hundreds of internet forums you spend your life on.
    Now I have to go and release the green Fairy, I hope you dont suffer too much tonight!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pauli007001 View Post
    Your compulsive desire to post blatent untruths is grounds to show you as what?

    No preoccupation with race, that is you (as Usual) twisting my words to fit your mode of attack(a throwback to your Nulab days I guess).No open support for the BNP either, again you are either confusing me with some other internet based person(the only people you interact with apparently) or are making stuff up again.Recently I was Issues a final warning By Midas for critisising the BNP and their policies, You should try a little reality orientation, I am Pauli007001 not some other persona you have debated on this or any other of the hundreds of internet forums you spend your life on.
    Now I have to go and release the green Fairy, I hope you dont suffer too much tonight!!!!
    I seem to have touch upon a nerve. I unreservedly apologise if I have caused any offence, I was merely making an observation. I know sometimes the truth is hard to accept so I will therefore let matters lie until you have come to terms with things a little better.

    Final warning eh? Interesting!

    Back to topic ~ it's completely wrong that the authorities leave the race of those not white out of suspect descriptions .... some would call that racism. Anyone agree?

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    Taliban behind Times Square plot, says US | World news | The Guardian

    Actually the FBI have finally admitted that it is an Islamist plot hatched in Pakistan, when Faisal Shahzad visited there some months back. Faisal Shahzad is a Muslim Terrorist. (Should I put alleged?)
    The USA have warned Pakistan that if there are attacks hatched in that country there will be repercussions.
    That means drone attacks on CIA flagged targets. This often results in the deaths of innocents, but hey ho - it's the USA, so it's all OK.
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    Actually the FBI have finally admitted that it is an Islamist plot hatched in Pakistan, when Faisal Shahzad visited there some months back. Faisal Shahzad is a Muslim Terrorist. (Should I put alleged?)
    The USA have warned Pakistan that if there are attacks hatched in that country there will be repercussions.
    That means drone attacks on CIA flagged targets. This often results in the deaths of innocents, but hey ho - it's the USA, so it's all OK.
    Ok sure the FBI said so, it was more l\ike;y the work of Neo nazis or other BNP affiliates, perhaps Pauli was involved?

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    I would point out that recent polls have shown that a quarter of UK moslems have some sympathy for radical Islam and have claimed to understand why violence is commited. Not that I agree with that racist **** Pauli of course, he is a major NAZI and a denier of the holocaust. Not forgetting how he is a racist XXXXXXXXXXX
    Oh dear, did you join this forum simply to denigrate another member, even though he cannot reply, as he is banned?

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    Oh dear, did you join this forum simply to denigrate another member, even though he cannot reply, as he is banned?
    Thanks Barry. Can we not have personal comments or allegations like this made here please!
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