The Downfall of Obama

[The Silver Eagle]

Do you think Barrack Obama will survive the next election?

I personally don't.

How many of you would vote for him or either "Someone Else".
If so, why??? Also which someone else if had one in mind would
you probably vote for as a candidate?

Do you think if Barrack Hussein Obama lasted this next election
the country would prevail or even the Economy or what would
happen to us and the U.S.???

[soloman]

Do you think Barrack Obama will survive the next election?

I personally don't.

How many of you would vote for him or either "Someone Else".
If so, why??? Also which someone else if had one in mind would
you probably vote for as a candidate?

Do you think if Barrack Hussein Obama lasted this next election
the country would prevail or even the Economy or what would
happen to us and the U.S.???

I wouldn't make a judgement yet. Any politician would tend to deal with the unpopular issues first. There could be some very much more to come which might make him more popular.

Viewed from outside the US he is much more human that the last incumbent George Dubya Bush!

[Barry]

Actually, viewed from Europe, he seems to be a complete novice and an idiot when it comes to foreign and industrial policies.
However, the world gives him a pass for some unknown reason.
The honeymoon of "Yes we can" and "change" is certainly over.

[Major Sinic]

I think as far as the 'world' was concerned just about anyone was preferable to George Bush, and to be fair the Democrat ideology probably comes over as being marginally more socially responsible than the Republican to most European minds. There was also tremendous excitement about the prospect of a half white president (or was it because he was a half black president?). Certainly those in the know seemed to regard him as a ruthless political opportunist, devoid of integrity or principle (which is no doubt why he seemed to get on so well with Gordon Brown) as opposed to the world's media regarding him akin to the second coming. Events have rather borne out the first view, although in the immediate future we will no doubt see him playing Mr Nice Guy once again, as the haunting prospect of losing his majority in Congress seems to be ever more substantial. Be rest assured that whatever he says will be designed to serve Barack Obama's interests first and foremost.

But can we in all honesty expect anything else. I suspect that it would be more likely that Silvio Berlusconi would stay faithful to his wife, than an honest man with integrity should become president of the most powerful nation on earth, and indeed would such a man have any hope of succeeding? Would I vote for him? I am pleased to say I am not entitled to vote for him or any other American presidential candidate!

[janahitwadi]

Do you think if Barrack Hussein Obama lasted this next election the country would prevail or even the Economy or what would happen to us and the U.S.???

I don't think it is necessary to ask this question now. More important is to analyze his speeches and actions. He considers Mahatma Mohanchand Karamchand Gandhi (MK Gandhi from India) as is idol. His speeches do take this in to consideration. However, his actions don't match with the theory propagated by the Mahatma (Short name for Mr. MK Gandhi). He is giving more importance to security than economy. That could be understood. However, what is he doing for strengthening security? He has no plans, at least he has not come out with any plan which will appeal to USA citizens in particular and world citizens in general. Major danger for security is from extremists and USA is fighting against those in middle east countries. All missions have failed simply because monetary funds of these extremist keep building up obstructed. No action is taken to restrict this money.

Let's see what he does. May be we can ask your question when Obama comes forward with his plan to fight with extremists and wipe them out.

[flash]

You have to understand how a Socialist moron like Obama got elected.

First of all every back person in the US voted for him. Many of the Blacks never voted in their lives and that accounted for a few million votes that the Democrat would not have normally received.

Every stupid Left Wing brain washed college kid in the US voted for Obama. All of this Left Wing indoctrination that the universities have been poisoning the students with over the years paid off in the 2008 election.

The filthy Democrat core special interest groups turned out like the unions, Environmental wackos, homosexuals, abortionists etc.

Many so called Independents gave Obama the benefit of the doubt because Obama was successful with his “I am a moderate and I believe in Hope and Change” campaign.

McCain was not only an ineffective campaigner but many of the conservative base was not enthralled with his liberal leanings and did not contribute or even vote.

In the next election the core Democrats will still vote for the moron and many Blacks will also continue to vote their race but I think the Independents will abandon him. Many college students will figure out that their college professors lied to them and Obama has been a disaster for the economy when they can’t find jobs and are burden with future debt. The Conservatives will turn out in record numbers kick Obama out.

Obama doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting reelected.

[Streetwalker]

He may well survive another election,the American people havn't (as the brits diddnt with Blair) understand exactally what the agenda is

[janahitwadi]

Obama, it appears is gauged only on 1 count i. e. American economy. Is it correct? America counts herself as the world's most powerful nation. Does this not make Americans responsible for the whole world? Either Americans should do away policing world or take responsibilities which are natural to the task undertaken. Therefore, he should be judged based on his capability to handle worldwide terrorism.

[Midas]

An interesting observation on Obama's policies - perhaps someone from the US might like to comment.

Obama's agenda: Overwhelm the system

Barack Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within

Barack Obama is my college classmate (Columbia University, class of '83). As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands

Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it

-- Universal health care. The health care bill had very little to do with health care. It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents (who will join government employee unions). Obama doesn't care that giving free health care to 30 million Americans will add trillions to the national debt. What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30 million voters to Democrats and big government. Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill in the middle of a depression?

-- Cap and trade. Like health care legislation having nothing to do with health care, cap and trade has nothing to do with global warming. It has everything to do with redistribution of income, government control of the economy and a criminal payoff to Obama's biggest contributors. Those powerful and wealthy unions and contributors (like GE, which owns NBC, MSNBC and CNBC) can then be counted on to support everything Obama wants. They will kick-back hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to Obama and the Democratic Party to keep them in power. The bonus is that all the new taxes on Americans with bigger cars, bigger homes and businesses helps Obama "spread the wealth around."

-- Make Puerto Rico a state. Why? Who's asking for a 51st state? Who's asking for millions of new welfare recipients and government entitlement addicts in the middle of a depression? Certainly not American taxpayers. But this has been Obama's plan all along. His goal is to add two new Democrat senators, five Democrat congressman and a million loyal Democratic voters who are dependent on big government

-- Legalize 12 million illegal immigrants. Just giving these 12 million potential new citizens free health care alone could overwhelm the system and bankrupt America. But it adds 12 million reliable new Democrat voters who can be counted on to support big government. Add another few trillion dollars in welfare, aid to dependent children, food stamps, free medical, education, tax credits for the poor, and eventually Social Security

-- Stimulus and bailouts. Where did all that money go? It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions -- including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country. It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could keep paying union dues. It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out (after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions). A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues). All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America. The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful. The ends justify the means

-- Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers, redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did nothing to deserve it (except vote for Obama). Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition

With the acts outlined above, Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system

Add it up and you've got the perfect Marxist scheme -- all devised by my Columbia University college classmate Barack Obama using the Cloward and Piven Plan

Source : WAYNE ALLYN ROOT: Obama's agenda: Overwhelm the system - Opinion - ReviewJournal.com

[janahitwadi]

An interesting observation on Obama's policies - perhaps someone from the US might like to comment.

Obama's agenda: Overwhelm the system

Barack Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within

Obama should take action on trimming funds received by Taliban. Sources are
1. Saudi Arabia and her friends.
2. Drug plants cultivated on border area of Afghanistan-Pakistan-Pakistan Occupied Kashmir. Most of the products are sold in USA
3. Aid given to Pakistan. This finds way to Taliban

On first source Obama may not be able to do much. However second and third sources can be effectively closed.

Bombing cultivated field would stop most of the funds. For this USA must not treat Iran as a foe but a friend

Stopping aid to Pakistan is found impossible as the forces in Afghanistan get their supplies through Pakistan. If a route is developed through Iran this problem can be solved.

Once funds are stopped or at least curtailed Taliban will vanish shortly

Afterwords USA should open schools (primary/secondary up to class 8) in Pakistan and embed in students importance of secularism

This shall result in boosting US economy

[flash]

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[The Silver Eagle]

If there was a Greater mockery of the United States it would be from the hands of the current President himself.

[flash]

American Thinker


There comes a moment in a failing presidency where the incumbent, through some single gesture, action, or statement, crosses a certain line from beyond which there is no return. Through his own will and behavior he so underlines his failings, so frames his negative image, that no further action can ever erase it. Fate, accident, and circumstance have nothing to do with it. It is the president himself who puts the period at the end of his own sentence.

Such moments are obvious in retrospect, though not always at the time. With Richard Nixon, it was the "eighteen-minute gap." An oval office tape recording turned over to Judge John Sirica, who was overseeing the investigation of the Watergate incident, turned out to have a lengthy period of silence smack dab in the middle of a conversation between Nixon and chief of staff H.R. Haldeman. The White House claimed that Rose Mary Woods, the president's secretary, had inadvertently hit the wrong button for those eighteen minutes. This might well have been true, but in light of Nixon's long reputation as Tricky Dick, it sounded like the cock-and-bull story to end them all. Nixon had been holding his own in the Watergate battle up to that point. The voting public viewed the uproar with bemusement rather than indignation. But the tape gap finished him. In less than a year, he was forced into resignation.

For Jimmy Carter, it was the "malaise speech" of July 15, 1979, in which he attempted to shuffle the blame for his tepid performance as president from his own administration onto the shoulders of the American people. Carter claimed that a national "crisis of confidence" (he never actually used the word "malaise") made it impossible for him to adequately grapple with the country's problems. It was America's fault, not Jimmy Carter's. The public reaction was open disgust and the abject collapse of any support for the Carter presidency.

With Obama, we have an abundance of riches: the multiple vacations, the legal harassment of the state of Arizona on behalf of illegals, the clownish response to the Gulf oil blowout. But when historians come to select the moment when Obama went over the edge of the world, I think they'll find the great Iftar mosque speech of August 13, 2010 hard to beat.

During a White House dinner celebrating Ramadan the president found it appropriate to come out in favor of religious freedom. Not in support of Christians being attacked by janjaweed gunmen, or Bahais tormented by Iranian mullahs, or Jews being stalked by assassins, or even American citizens being told that they cannot pray in public, but in favor of a shadowy foreign foundation with suspicious financing and disturbing Jihadi connections that wishes to build some kind of victory monument congruent to the site of the 9/11 massacre.

These doomsday statements work by putting previous suspicions and surmises about the president –– always negative –– into sharp relief, acting as verification and confirmation. Nixon had suffered a reputation as a conniver since his knock-down, drag-out 1950 battle against Helen Gahagan Douglas (it was Douglas who coined the "Tricky Dick" nickname). The tape gap fit so perfectly into that narrative as to crowd out everything else. Carter's inept performance as president was rendered even harder to bear by his continual sanctimony and moral preening. The malaise speech merely added the patina of a whiner.

With Obama, suspicions have involved his status as an American. The foreign parentage, the registration in an Indonesian school noting him as a Muslim, the uproar over the birth certificate, aroused misgivings that, despite media scorn heaped upon those noting them, he has never quite been able to put to rest. As of last weekend, his opportunities to do so are ended. Impressions trump arguments, and for most of the country, Obama will, from here on in, be a strange and untrustworthy figure –– a man who does not understand what Ground Zero means to America, who utilizes American law and custom to support foreign interests, who speaks to strangers more clearly than to his own.

Nothing either Nixon or Carter did enabled them to recover from their faux pas. Even as the tape gap story broke, Nixon was supervising a massive airlift of supplies and ammunition to Israel, which was involved in life-or-death struggle against massive Arab attack in the Yom Kippur War. It gained him nothing, scarcely earning a mention amid all the public speculation about Watergate. Less than three months after the Carter speech, Iranian "students" (actually professional revolutionaries under the control of the Ayatollah Khomeini) sacked the American embassy in Tehran, taking nearly a hundred American hostages. I can attest that I was not alone in thinking, "Great –– and we've got Mr. Malaise is charge." The year-and a-half-long hostage crisis, climaxed by the disastrous Eagle Claw rescue mission, hastened the collapse of the worst presidency of the later 20th century.

The past two years are the best Obama will ever see. The real crises of his presidency are still to come, and are easily visible as they move toward us –– Iran, terrorism, the economy, the collapse of the national health care system hastened by his own policies. He will meet them under a cloud of his own making, attempting to overcome them as a president who takes endless vacations, who will not defend his country's borders, who sat out the Gulf oil crisis, who overlooks the sacrifices of his own countrymen in favor of dubious foreign figures.

Some lines of Shakespeare occurred to me while Obama was dawdling over a response to the oil blowout. They can also serve to cover the entire morass:

There is a tide in the affairs of men,

Which, taken at the flood, leads us to fortune;

Omitted, all the voyage of their life

Is bound in shallows and in miseries.


The tide has gone out for Barack Obama. It is all epilogue from here on in.



0bama's "point of no return" came much earlier for me. Every one of his "historic accomplishments" was a body punch to America. His support for the mosque was merely an acknowledgment of what we have known all along. He is not a patriot, not a president and not a man.

[DaveUK]

You have to understand how a Socialist moron like Obama got elected.

First of all every back person in the US voted for him. Many of the Blacks never voted in their lives and that accounted for a few million votes that the Democrat would not have normally received.

Every stupid Left Wing brain washed college kid in the US voted for Obama. All of this Left Wing indoctrination that the universities have been poisoning the students with over the years paid off in the 2008 election.

The filthy Democrat core special interest groups turned out like the unions, Environmental wackos, homosexuals, abortionists etc.

Many so called Independents gave Obama the benefit of the doubt because Obama was successful with his “I am a moderate and I believe in Hope and Change” campaign.

McCain was not only an ineffective campaigner but many of the conservative base was not enthralled with his liberal leanings and did not contribute or even vote.

In the next election the core Democrats will still vote for the moron and many Blacks will also continue to vote their race but I think the Independents will abandon him. Many college students will figure out that their college professors lied to them and Obama has been a disaster for the economy when they can’t find jobs and are burden with future debt. The Conservatives will turn out in record numbers kick Obama out.

Obama doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting reelected.

That all depends on who his opponent is at the next election.
To say that every black person in the US voted for Obama is nonsense. There are large numbers of black republicans in the US.
If it is the case that many more black Americans voted in the 08 election, as well as the obvious atraction of Obama to the average black American, I think it's fair to blame Bush' criminal handling of the Katrina disaster that affected mostly poor black people, not to mention the disgraceful comments by his moronic wife.

McCain had two serious handicaps, one was his predecessor......only GWB could make it easy for a black man to win an election in an overtly racist country like the USA. The other was his almost hysterical choice of running mate. That was the point at which most republicans realised the race was lost. If she runs in 12 and wins the nomination, it's 4 more years for Obama, no doubt about it. The Christian right need to wise up, America has sussed them out. You don't get to be elected to the most powerful office in the world when you believe that the earth is 6000 years old, and rightly so.

Obama inherited the economic crisis that the US now faces, he didn't create it. The cat can be clearly walked back to the Reagan years, his slavish capitulatin to corperate forces, and his cynical sell off of his country at the expense of working and lower middle class Americans.

Environmental wackos, homosexuals, abortionists etc.

Only amongst the crack pot Christian right in the USA are these issues viewed in this way.

From an international perspective, it's in his favour that he reversed the disasterous Bush policies on Iraq and Afghanistan, and has started the inevitable wthdrawal from those regions much sooner than Bush ever would have. It will be interesting to see, if he retains office, how he deals with the inevitable collapse of those countries that the US led coalition has done so much to destroy.
Dissapointingly he's continued the US presidential tradition of capitulating to Israel in the most cowardly whiney way. He's also continued Bush' outrageously stupid and short sighted aproach to Iran, confrontation and sanctions rather than negotiation.

[flash]

That all depends on who his opponent is at the next election.
To say that every black person in the US voted for Obama is nonsense. There are large numbers of black republicans in the US.
If it is the case that many more black Americans voted in the 08 election, as well as the obvious atraction of Obama to the average black American, I think it's fair to blame Bush' criminal handling of the Katrina disaster that affected mostly poor black people, not to mention the disgraceful comments by his moronic wife.

McCain had two serious handicaps, one was his predecessor......only GWB could make it easy for a black man to win an election in an overtly racist country like the USA. The other was his almost hysterical choice of running mate. That was the point at which most republicans realised the race was lost. If she runs in 12 and wins the nomination, it's 4 more years for Obama, no doubt about it. The Christian right need to wise up, America has sussed them out. You don't get to be elected to the most powerful office in the world when you believe that the earth is 6000 years old, and rightly so.

Obama inherited the economic crisis that the US now faces, he didn't create it. The cat can be clearly walked back to the Reagan years, his slavish capitulatin to corperate forces, and his cynical sell off of his country at the expense of working and lower middle class Americans.



Only amongst the crack pot Christian right in the USA are these issues viewed in this way.

From an international perspective, it's in his favour that he reversed the disasterous Bush policies on Iraq and Afghanistan, and has started the inevitable wthdrawal from those regions much sooner than Bush ever would have. It will be interesting to see, if he retains office, how he deals with the inevitable collapse of those countries that the US led coalition has done so much to destroy.
Dissapointingly he's continued the US presidential tradition of capitulating to Israel in the most cowardly whiney way. He's also continued Bush' outrageously stupid and short sighted aproach to Iran, confrontation and sanctions rather than negotiation.

Don't concern yourself with American politics. It is simply none of your business. If I was you and I lived in the UK I would be concerned about getting my own house in order before worrying about foreign governments.

Your country is consumed with debt, you have lost your industrial base, you are flooded with third world immigrants that are changing your culture, you have piss poor medical care because of your socialized medicine, you are involved in foreign interventionism and you are losing your individual freedoms right and left. You could also use a dentist or two in your country. Go fix those things and then we will talk about GW Bush.

[Streetwalker]

Don't concern yourself with American politics. It is simply none of your business. If I was you and I lived in the UK I would be concerned about getting my own house in order before worrying about foreign governments.

Your country is consumed with debt, you have lost your industrial base, you are flooded with third world immigrants that are changing your culture, you have piss poor medical care because of your socialized medicine, you are involved in foreign interventionism and you are losing your individual freedoms right and left. You could also use a dentist or two in your country. Go fix those things and then we will talk about GW Bush.

A bit Harsh Flash.

Harsh but true

[Major Sinic]

Don't concern yourself with American politics. It is simply none of your business. If I was you and I lived in the UK I would be concerned about getting my own house in order before worrying about foreign governments.

Your country is consumed with debt, you have lost your industrial base, you are flooded with third world immigrants that are changing your culture, you have piss poor medical care because of your socialized medicine, you are involved in foreign interventionism and you are losing your individual freedoms right and left. You could also use a dentist or two in your country. Go fix those things and then we will talk about GW Bush.

You are quite right in that there is a great deal wrong with Britain. However the difference is that the majority of British citizens recognise it, whereas the majority of Americans seem to have little appreciation of the monumental shortcomings of their own country.

With the exception of health care, each observation you make is to a great or lesser extent accurate. With regard to health care you are fundamentally wrong. There is certainly wastage and administrative incompetence, but for critical care of one hundred percent of our population the NHS is world class.

In a civilised society there are, in my opinion, certain moral obligations that society as a whole has to its citizens. These are the provision of food, shelter, education and health care for those citizens who are unable to provide it for themselves ( I specifically exclude those spongers who won't provide for themselves and immigrants who have not contributed to our society). Until the USA can match up to these standards, it cannot call itself a civilised or caring society.

With regard to GWB, the man was a dangerous clown, endangering world peace more than any world leader in the last half century.

[flash]

You are quite right in that there is a great deal wrong with Britain. However the difference is that the majority of British citizens recognise it, whereas the majority of Americans seem to have little appreciation of the monumental shortcomings of their own country.

With the exception of health care, each observation you make is to a great or lesser extent accurate. With regard to health care you are fundamentally wrong. There is certainly wastage and administrative incompetence, but for critical care of one hundred percent of our population the NHS is world class.

In a civilised society there are, in my opinion, certain moral obligations that society as a whole has to its citizens. These are the provision of food, shelter, education and health care for those citizens who are unable to provide it for themselves ( I specifically exclude those spongers who won't provide for themselves and immigrants who have not contributed to our society). Until the USA can match up to these standards, it cannot call itself a civilised or caring society.

With regard to GWB, the man was a dangerous clown, endangering world peace more than any world leader in the last half century.

Americans very well understand what is wrong with our country. For instance, there is a major rally in Washington this weekend where Americans will take to the streets to protest the abuses of the government.

GW Bush was a big disappointment to me as a conservative. He spent more money than he took in, he increased the size of government, he failed to seal the border, he enacted entitlement programs to kiss the ass of the minorities and he invaded Iraq when it had nothing to do with 911.

Despite his shortcomings as a conservative the country did very well under him. We kicked the ass of those responsible for 911, unemployment was near record lows during most of his administration, he decreased taxes, economic growth was double and triple the European average and I personally made a ton of money in the stock market while he was president.

The military loved and respected him and he represented a strong America, which is why you Euros hated him. You want everybody to be weak like you. You have lost your energy and your soul and in your envy you have become bitter. You loved America when our strength saved your ass and you hate us when we are using our strength to help others.

However, like I said you Euros need not concern yourself with who we Americans chose for our leaders. It is simply none of your business and your lackadaisical approach to solving all those problems that 60 years of destructive socialism has cause leads me to believe you will never get your head out of your ass. You need to get your own house in order before you go mouthing off about other countries that have a higher standard of living than you do.

We will fix the Obama problem. He will lose Congress and he will not win reelection. America is basically a Conservative country and the damage done by Obama has been a wake up call for Americans. We will get back on the right track. In the meantime you will continue with your high taxation, piss poor cancer survivor rates, Muslim culture infusion and poor economies. I feel sorry for you.

[flash]

A bit Harsh Flash.

Harsh but true

I wasn't trying to be harsh. We Americans use you Europeans as a model of how things get screwed up when we stray from our Conservative values.

The major problem with Obama is that he is trying to push America towards a socialistic system like Europe and he is destroying all of our strengths in the process just like your strengths have been destroyed by your previous “Obamas”.

We have major problems in this country. However, I am confident we have the strength to get back on the right track. I doubt you Europeans will ever get on the right track and that is a shame.

[Major Sinic]

Americans very well understand what is wrong with our country. For instance, there is a major rally in Washington this weekend where Americans will take to the streets to protest the abuses of the government.

GW Bush was a big disappointment to me as a conservative. He spent more money than he took in, he increased the size of government, he failed to seal the border, he enacted entitlement programs to kiss the ass of the minorities and he invaded Iraq when it had nothing to do with 911.

Despite his shortcomings as a conservative the country did very well under him. We kicked the ass of those responsible for 911, unemployment was near record lows during most of his administration, he decreased taxes, economic growth was double and triple the European average and I personally made a ton of money in the stock market while he was president.

The military loved and respected him and he represented a strong America, which is why you Euros hated him. You want everybody to be weak like you. You have lost your energy and your soul and in your envy you have become bitter. You loved America when our strength saved your ass and you hate us when we are using our strength to help others.

However, like I said you Euros need not concern yourself with who we Americans chose for our leaders. It is simply none of your business and your lackadaisical approach to solving all those problems that 60 years of destructive socialism has cause leads me to believe you will never get your head out of your ass. You need to get your own house in order before you go mouthing off about other countries that have a higher standard of living than you do.

We will fix the Obama problem. He will lose Congress and he will not win reelection. America is basically a Conservative country and the damage done by Obama has been a wake up call for Americans. We will get back on the right track. In the meantime you will continue with your high taxation, piss poor cancer survivor rates, Muslim culture infusion and poor economies. I feel sorry for you.

Unfortunately, we 'Euros' as you so quaintly describe us, do need to concern ourselves with who you Americans choose as your leaders since as you are currently the most powerful nation in the world, who you elect as your leaders has a considerable impact on many areas of the world, outside your own country. In some cases that might be a life and death impact. Since we have justifiable concern, we should all feel at ease and within our rights, either praising or criticising your country and its government. You Americans have enough to say about the rest of the world, your views and opinions necessarily based on American media, since less than 1 in 20 of you have ever gone further than Canada or Mexico. The majority remain content and ignorant in splendid isolation.

[flash]

Unfortunately, we 'Euros' as you so quaintly describe us, do need to concern ourselves with who you Americans choose as your leaders since as you are currently the most powerful nation in the world, who you elect as your leaders has a considerable impact on many areas of the world, outside your own country. In some cases that might be a life and death impact. Since we have justifiable concern, we should all feel at ease and within our rights, either praising or criticising your country and its government. You Americans have enough to say about the rest of the world, your views and opinions necessarily based on American media, since less than 1 in 20 of you have ever gone further than Canada or Mexico. The majority remain content and ignorant in splendid isolation.

You should worry more about getting your own house in order and less about what us Americans are doing.

What you are doing is looking at excuses to blame America for your problems instead of taking responsibility yourselves.

[Major Sinic]

You should worry more about getting your own house in order and less about what us Americans are doing.

What you are doing is looking at excuses to blame America for your problems instead of taking responsibility yourselves.

I think that you are rather missing the point here. Whether or not Britain can or will put its own economic house in order is rather beside the point. Britain's influence on world events, either positive or negative, is substantially less significant than the USA's. Therefore when we screw up, the effect is largely contained within our own country and others don't have to pay the price. Not so with the USA. When you screw up, the whole world is affected to a greater or lesser extent.

I really don't need to look for excuses to blame America for anything. Britain is in the mess it is in because of thirteen years of our own hopelessly inept and arrogant government, which we have only just got rid of. Your hopelessly regulated financial sector may have kicked off the global recession, but our Labour government certainly made its impact on Britain far worse than it need or should have been. I believe we now have a government that is facing up to its responsibilities. When and if the 'great unwashed' finally realise that the manna from heaven is not limitless, and that they now have to take some personal responsibility for themselves, then we might start to climb out of the economic abyss.

[DaveUK]

Don't concern yourself with American politics. It is simply none of your business.

If the US didn't interfear in the affairs of other countries, and if US economic policy didn't affect the rest of the world so much, then I wouldn't be in the slightest bit interested in your politics.

Your country is consumed with debt

So is yours.

you have lost your industrial base

,
So have you.

you are flooded with third world immigrants that are changing your culture

If you listen to right wing crack pots, this is how it sounds. The truth of the matter is far different though.
The only imigration in this country that any government can control comes from the outside the EU. Imagrants from ourtside the EU account for less than 8% of the overal number of imigrants into the UK. The number of people leaving the country and returning back to countries outside the EU, actually outnumber those coming in. So the true picture is that the numbers of none EU imigrants is actually in decline.
As for our culture being changed, that is true. But it certainly isn't imigration that is causing it. There are no British kids in mass numbers emulating Arabs, Africans, Afghanis or eastern Europeans. The biggest and most insidious, odius, comtemptable, vapid and frankly dangerous threat to our culture is rampant Americanism. It's responsible for the bastardization of our language, the vacuous garbage on our TV screens, the vile American style gang culture we see on our streets, your vile and unhealthy diet, it's even infected our politics. Where once substance counted for everything, now only personality and the ability to look good on TV seems to matter in politics.

you have piss poor medical care because of your socialized medicine

Our NHS is the envy of the world, and your country look set to emulate it. You should be ashamed of the fact that the richest country on earth doesn't provide free health care to it's citizens. Cuba has a better and fairer health care system than the US.

you are involved in foreign interventionism and you are losing your individual freedoms right and left.

Led mainly by the US. The sooner we distance ourselves from US interventionalist policy and ally ourselves closer to our EU brothers and sisters the better we will be. What freedoms exactly?

Go fix those things and then we will talk about GW Bush

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I'd be interested to know why a so called conservative country like the US would allow this 2nd rate idiot to run the country? Here he could barely get a job at McDonalds.

[AMGINGLES]

Again , I can see meovement here , things I was talking about months ago that were seen as conspiracy are very much mainstream and being pushed by Midas and his band of merry gentlemen. Obama , like bush and bush senior has links with the CIA. I think this is becoming more obvious with his deliberate redistribution of wealth favouring the banks.

[DaveUK]

We kicked the ass of those responsible for 911,

Oh really? Since when did you kick the ass of the Saudi's? They continue to dominate the worlds oil economy, the have the US in their pockets, they hold almost as many US$ in reserve as the US does, they continue to fund and inspire your enemies. Who are you trying to kid?

[flash]

I think that you are rather missing the point here. Whether or not Britain can or will put its own economic house in order is rather beside the point. Britain's influence on world events, either positive or negative, is substantially less significant than the USA's. Therefore when we screw up, the effect is largely contained within our own country and others don't have to pay the price. Not so with the USA. When you screw up, the whole world is affected to a greater or lesser extent.

I really don't need to look for excuses to blame America for anything. Britain is in the mess it is in because of thirteen years of our own hopelessly inept and arrogant government, which we have only just got rid of. Your hopelessly regulated financial sector may have kicked off the global recession, but our Labour government certainly made its impact on Britain far worse than it need or should have been. I believe we now have a government that is facing up to its responsibilities. When and if the 'great unwashed' finally realise that the manna from heaven is not limitless, and that they now have to take some personal responsibility for themselves, then we might start to climb out of the economic abyss.

You are in trouble because you spent a whole more money than you took in and you destroyed your once vibrant capitalist’s economy by trying to redistribute the wealth through inefficient socialists programs. For instance, you stupid national care program employs the third highest number of employees in the world behind only the Chinese military and the railroad workers of India and all you get for it is low cancer survivor rates and long waiting list for health care procedures. You have taxed away the incentive to earn money and you have put a good portion of your population on the dole while your number of government workers exceeds the number of private sector employees. Your unions have destroyed you ability to do anything efficently while making fat cats out of your politicians.

You are in bad shape and it is your problem and would have continued to be a problem whether or not the American banking crisis occurred or not.

Trying to blame GW Bush for your problems or spend you time bashing Americans for invading Iraq when you were invading along side us may make for interesting commentary on BBC but does not do anything to solve your problems.

Get you house in order before you go complaining about somebody else.

We are pretty screwed up nowadays and Obama is destroying our economy but we have a chance to pull it out. I don’t think you have chance at all. Socialism has screwed up your country so bad I doubt you will ever get things right

[Major Sinic]

You are in trouble because you spent a whole more money than you took in and you destroyed your once vibrant capitalist’s economy by trying to redistribute the wealth through inefficient socialists programs.

True

You have taxed away the incentive to earn money and you have put a good portion of your population on the dole while your number of government workers exceeds the number of private sector employees. Your unions have destroyed you ability to do anything efficently while making fat cats out of your politicians.

We have far too many public sector employees, most of whom are underemployed, overpaid and enjoy totally unsustainable pensions when they retire on average at an earlier age than the private sector. However your suggestion that they outnumber the private sector is wholly inaccurate and an indication of your lack of knowledge about the situation outside your own country. Britain has approximately 30 million people of working age. In reality around 2.5 million are unemployed, and around 6.5m are employed in the public sector, leaving 21 million in the private sector. In the 80s and 90s our then PM, the great Margaret Thatcher, and her government reformed the trade union movement, and for the last twenty years industrial relations have been fairly balanced and rational.

You are in bad shape and it is your problem and would have continued to be a problem whether or not the American banking crisis occurred or not.

You are again right. But again you miss my point which was due to poor American regulation of your financial system, America was the cause of the timing and depth of a global recession. No other nation could have had this impact on the global economy. Certainly Britain was heading for a major economic crisis through the ineptitude and profligacy of Gordon Brown and the Labour Party, but it would have been entirely shallower, and had less impact commercially and on the financial institutions in Britain. Your view again indicates a lack of understanding of what is happening outside your own country, and incidentally the American economic collapse happened during GWB's watch.

Trying to blame GW Bush for your problems or spend you time bashing Americans for invading Iraq when you were invading along side us may make for interesting commentary on BBC but does not do anything to solve your problems.

Again I must agree with you. But criminal acts by two countries instead of one don't make it right. It is to the eternal shame of Britain that Tony Blair and a number of his senior ministers lied to Parliament and the nation and took our country into an unjust and illegal war, just as it should be to the eternal shame of the American people that GWB was responsible for orchestrating and implementing this war crime in the name of the American people.

Get you house in order before you go complaining about somebody else.

We are pretty screwed up nowadays and Obama is destroying our economy but we have a chance to pull it out. I don’t think you have chance at all. Socialism has screwed up your country so bad I doubt you will ever get things right

Unfortunately you are starting to go round in circles, and remaking the same points rather than trying to move the debate on. Unless you are able to introduce something new to the debate, I rather think I am losing interest.

[flash]

You are again right. But again you miss my point which was due to poor American regulation of your financial system, America was the cause of the timing and depth of a global recession. No other nation could have had this impact on the global economy. Certainly Britain was heading for a major economic crisis through the ineptitude and profligacy of Gordon Brown and the Labour Party, but it would have been entirely shallower, and had less impact commercially and on the financial institutions in Britain. Your view again indicates a lack of understanding of what is happening outside your own country, and incidentally the American economic collapse happened during GWB's watch.

Bush handed a declining economy over to Obama just like Clinton handed a declining economy over to Bush. The difference is that Bush managed the economy correctly with tax cuts while Obama raided the Treasury to give money to his sleazy special interest groups. Big difference.

You are correct in that “regulation of the financial system” caused the problem but not for the reasons you are alluding to. It was because our stupid elected officials created a system where banks were significantly pressured to give housing and consumer loans to people that neither had the means or the intention of ever paying it back.

This stupid government interference in the financial markets for social reasons started back with Jimmy Carter, and expanded with Clinton. Reagan went along with it so as did Bush and Bush. The Democrats are primarily responsible because they initiated the programs and pushed them but the Republicans were weak minded and went along with it even though they knew better. Appeasement of the minorities is the real culprit here. How much brains does it take to figure out that if you give loans to people that ordinarily couldn’t pass a means test they would probably not pay the money back?

Bush inherited the decades old time bomb of failed social engineering. While he did nothing as president to prevent it from happening when he had a chance to do so he sure as hell did not create the problem.

The economy mostly did well under Bush live for seven of the eight years. Employment and economic growth were high despite the trillion dollar hit to our economy due to 911. The socialistic time bomb exploded during Bush’s eighth years. It was going to happen no matter who was President.

Again I must agree with you. But criminal acts by two countries instead of one don't make it right. It is to the eternal shame of Britain that Tony Blair and a number of his senior ministers lied to Parliament and the nation and took our country into an unjust and illegal war, just as it should be to the eternal shame of the American people that GWB was responsible for orchestrating and implementing this war crime in the name of the American people.

I am sorry but your country and my country decided to go to war. The people that made the decision were properly elected officials that were working within the parameters of their respective charters and it was hardly “illegal”. Wars are never “illegal”. They are simply the application of international force. If you win they are always legal. If you lose somebody else claims the war was illegal. If you agree with the war then you claim it was legal and if you disagree you write on your protest rally placard “this war is illegal”. So what else is new?

I hope you don’t think you mean to suggest that since invasion of Iraq was not a United Nations sectioned event (because of the vote by France) that the UK had to give up its sovereign right to project its military might anywhere it wanted. I know you Europeans love to give up your sovereignty to international bodies but isn’t your Prime Minister your Commander in Chief and didn’t your Queen go along with it? Who is running your country anyhow, your elected government or the United Nations?

As far as “unjust” that is subjective thing. Your elected government felt it was “just”. If you disagree then you should have campaigned harder for another candidate.

I just laugh when I hear crap like; “the British people were against it but Tony Blair took us to war”. That is a cop out big time and it shows a lack of taking responsibility for your elected government. I think it is really funny seeing that you have a Parliamentary kind of government, which means the PM can be removed at any time.

Unfortunately you are starting to go round in circles, and remaking the same points

You are mostly agreeing with me but you are still trying to blame America for your problems. We have enough problems of our own without having to worry about assuming the responsibility for the destructiveness of 60 years of Socialism in the UK although I think you would love for us to fix everything for you. Since it is apparent nothing is going to be fixed soon then you smug Euros are once again doing what you always do and trying to shift the blame from yourselves to that Devil America.

Get your own house in order and stop blaming us for everything. The Germans have started to figure that out so maybe you should do the same thing. However, I think it is more likely that as your economy declines you will do like the Greeks and demand even more of the things that screwed you up in the first place.

[janahitwadi]

It appears that all of you are interested in internal matters and day to day problem. No nation can afford to keep aside long term worries. Security of life is the most important point and none is addressing that. International terrorism, degradation of nature, pollution etc. are worldwide problems as on today and shall exist till a long lasting solution is found. Temporary solutions would not only ruin the world but would destroy life on earth. In my opinion we should try to understand whether Obama is fit to provide solutions for these problems. I have some views on 'Terrorism' You may read those here. Brotherhood: Fight against Terrorists and Extemists: You may give your comments on the blog or here.