Barry Soetoro was not born in the US of A

[Barry]

National Magazine Globe says Obama not Born in U.S. | Before It's News

Apparently the National Magazine "Globe" says he was not born in the USA and therefore has no right to be president.
Moves are afoot to impeach him.
I can't see them succeeding.

The Globe website cannot be viewed from my location
www.globemagazine.com/story/277

The report appears to be fresh news, whereas some of the references look old.
Is there anything new here?

[Don]

National Magazine Globe says Obama not Born in U.S. | Before It's News

Apparently the National Magazine "Globe" says he was not born in the USA and therefore has no right to be president.
Moves are afoot to impeach him.
I can't see them succeeding.

The Globe website cannot be viewed from my location
www.globemagazine.com/story/277

The report appears to be fresh news, whereas some of the references look old.
Is there anything new here?

Barry, I hate to break it to you, but the "Globe" is a trashzine found at most grocery store checkout lines. They sometimes also feature stories about 6 headed human babies being born to chimps and such. Get the picture?

[Barry]

Barry, I hate to break it to you, but the "Globe" is a trashzine found at most grocery store checkout lines. They sometimes also feature stories about 6 headed human babies being born to chimps and such. Get the picture?

Yep! thank you.

[IndependentThinker]

While it's true that the Globe is not a reliable source of information, talk about Barack Obama's real name being Barry Soetoro and his birth being in Kenya, not Hawaii, surfaced during the campaign. That had to have some basis somewhere. Where did it come from?

[Lots2say]

I read quite a lot about this line of thought, it seems every man, woman and their dog has an opinion. I'm not American so perhaps I am missing something here but why do people want to rubbish him this way? Is it true that he got the job because a large number of people from ethnic minorities voted for the first time? (So there are a lot who were never a supporter in the first place.)

[DaveUK]

I read quite a lot about this line of thought, it seems every man, woman and their dog has an opinion. I'm not American so perhaps I am missing something here but why do people want to rubbish him this way? Is it true that he got the job because a large number of people from ethnic minorities voted for the first time? (So there are a lot who were never a supporter in the first place.)

Maybe because he's clearly an intelligent thoughtful man, erudite, a great communicator..........it's hard for people to believe he is actually American.

[Midas]

Maybe because he's clearly an intelligent thoughtful man, erudite, a great communicator..........it's hard for people to believe he is actually American.

With apologies to the many exceedingly intelligent, thoughtful and erudite Americans everywhere, but I just had to have a really good, long laugh at that one

[Opinionated]

Do we not think that he would have had to have whatever the equivelent of an NI number is at some point in able to reside and work in the US - would that not require in the very least a birth certificate? Would documents not have to be presented before a President is sworn in? This story has been around since the primaries I believe and it is quite obviously a very stupid and ill thought out attempt to smear!

[ILikeLiberty]

While it's true that the Globe is not a reliable source of information, talk about Barack Obama's real name being Barry Soetoro and his birth being in Kenya, not Hawaii, surfaced during the campaign. That had to have some basis somewhere. Where did it come from?

I believe it came from a Russian woman named Orley Taitz (Or something like that).

The Birth Certificate claimed Kenya was a republic, which at the time of Obama's birth it was not and I believe te city he was claimed to have been born was not part of Kenya but a country in close proximity to Kenya.

The birther movement is perhaps a residual movement which attempted to discredit Obama before the election, John McCain was subject to smears from unions talking of his health and age and in 2000 was smeared by George W. Bush's campaign team claiming he had fathered an illegitmate black child, who he had in fact adopted.

[Durzo Blint]

There is not one shred of evidence, none that proves Obama was not born in America, not one shred. The so called evidence the "birthers" put up is laughable at best. It is so funny when they try to show his so called real birth certificate. Anyone can modify any document using software programs designed to edit and make it look real. LOL.

[flash]

There is not one shred of evidence, none that proves Obama was not born in America, not one shred. The so called evidence the "birthers" put up is laughable at best. It is so funny when they try to show his so called real birth certificate. Anyone can modify any document using software programs designed to edit and make it look real. LOL.

I don’t know if the SOB was born in the US or not. There is some circumstantial evidence that he wasn’t but nobody has really proven their case.

To me the most interesting circumstantial evidence is the fact that his genius Hippy mother started college at the University of Washington a week after Obama’s Hawaii birth certificate says he was born. For a young single mom in the mid 1960s to take an infant child and travel that distance and enroll in college and start classes in a very short period of time is almost unbelievable. The suggestion is that he was born elsewhere at a different time. Again, only circumstantial.

The time to determine his qualification for President was before the election. Once he got elected then it was too late. These filthy Liberals could really care less if Obama met the Constitutional requirements for the job or not. They were going to vote for him regardless.

To me the bigger problem is that because he lived outside the US (which is documented) during his formable years he has no cultural appreciation of the US. That is why he has a distorted view of the US and does things like go on a worldwide tour to trash the US. He has no real appreciation of the country he leads. He is a piece of sh*t whether he was born in the US or not.

[Durzo Blint]

I don’t know if the SOB was born in the US or not. There is some circumstantial evidence that he wasn’t but nobody has really proven their case.

To me the most interesting circumstantial evidence is the fact that his genius Hippy mother started college at the University of Washington a week after Obama’s Hawaii birth certificate says he was born. For a young single mom in the mid 1960s to take an infant child and travel that distance and enroll in college and start classes in a very short period of time is almost unbelievable. The suggestion is that he was born elsewhere at a different time. Again, only circumstantial.

The time to determine his qualification for President was before the election. Once he got elected then it was too late. These filthy Liberals could really care less if Obama met the Constitutional requirements for the job or not. They were going to vote for him regardless.

To me the bigger problem is that because he lived outside the US (which is documented) during his formable years he has no cultural appreciation of the US. That is why he has a distorted view of the US and does things like go on a worldwide tour to trash the US. He has no real appreciation of the country he leads. He is a piece of sh*t whether he was born in the US or not.

I'm not a big fan of Obama, believe me.

[BarbaraP]

While it's true that the Globe is not a reliable source of information, talk about Barack Obama's real name being Barry Soetoro and his birth being in Kenya, not Hawaii, surfaced during the campaign. That had to have some basis somewhere. Where did it come from?

The answer is very simple. It comes from people who will never accept a black man as being a legitimate leader. They so desperately need to believe that he isn't legitimate that they'll buy any idiocy sold by any cretin that feeds their own prejudice. These very same people will tell you he's a Muslim. Or that he 'pals around' with terrorists. Or that he hates America. Or that he's going to give America's wealth (what little is left after the eight year reign of error) to blacks. It's all pretty pathetic.

[BarbaraP]

I read quite a lot about this line of thought, it seems every man, woman and their dog has an opinion. I'm not American so perhaps I am missing something here but why do people want to rubbish him this way? Is it true that he got the job because a large number of people from ethnic minorities voted for the first time? (So there are a lot who were never a supporter in the first place.)

Patently untrue.

[flash]

The answer is very simple. It comes from people who will never accept a black man as being a legitimate leader. They so desperately need to believe that he isn't legitimate that they'll buy any idiocy sold by any cretin that feeds their own prejudice. These very same people will tell you he's a Muslim. Or that he 'pals around' with terrorists. Or that he hates America. Or that he's going to give America's wealth (what little is left after the eight year reign of error) to blacks. It's all pretty pathetic.

He is unacceptable but not because he is half Black. He is unacceptable because he is a dirty little socialist that is ruining the country. He has does nothing since elected to office except raid the treasury and transfer the money to his stupid Democrat special interest groups like the unions and the environmental wackos.

Whether or not he was born in the US or not is water under the bridge because he is already president and we are not going to reverse that. It is too bad there was no real due diligence on the Constitutional requirements for the job but that time has passed.

He was unqualified to be President by his lack of experience and his far left leanings. He should have been found unacceptable by the American people because he attended a filthy race hating church for twenty years and his main “spiritual advisor” was an American hating, white hating, anti Semitic racial bigot.

From my own personal viewpoint I think he was unacceptable because he never served in the military. He decided to be a little chickensh!t instead of serving his country.

[Lois Lane]

He has does nothing since elected to office except raid the treasury and transfer the money to his stupid Democrat special interest groups like the unions and the environmental wackos.


Please tell me how this works Flash. As far as I know union beneftis are decided at state level. Such as in Wisconsin and Ohio:

Wisconsin Topics Page - USATODAY.com

Wisconsin unions furious with Governor Scott Walker | Wausau Daily Herald | wausaudailyherald.com


And it seems as if this restriction of uniion rights is also being noticed in your very own state.

Florida protesters show support for Wis. unions - USATODAY.com

So tell me Flash first how Obama can actually have any control over union conditions since it is clear the conditions of members of a union are decided by each state?

Far left leanings? You mean Obama actually cares about the less well off in the USA? You don't sem to mind that a real far-left ideoplgy is propping up your economy. Think of all your tax money going to China to pay the interest on the loans. Must really bite, eh?

[flash]

He has does nothing since elected to office except raid the treasury and transfer the money to his stupid Democrat special interest groups like the unions and the environmental wackos.


Please tell me how this works Flash. As far as I know union beneftis are decided at state level. Such as in Wisconsin and Ohio:

Wisconsin Topics Page - USATODAY.com

Wisconsin unions furious with Governor Scott Walker | Wausau Daily Herald | wausaudailyherald.com


And it seems as if this restriction of uniion rights is also being noticed in your very own state.

Florida protesters show support for Wis. unions - USATODAY.com

So tell me Flash first how Obama can actually have any control over union conditions since it is clear the conditions of members of a union are decided by each state?

Far left leanings? You mean Obama actually cares about the less well off in the USA? You don't sem to mind that a real far-left ideoplgy is propping up your economy. Think of all your tax money going to China to pay the interest on the loans. Must really bite, eh?

There are a lot more unions in the US besides those in Wisconsin. His little deal with the car companies used federal money to protect the union pensions and to transfer a significant amount of GM stock and other assets to the unions. The UAW loves him.

He also is using the tremendous buying power of the Federal to prop up union jobs.

The filthy unions gave Democrats a billion dollars during the last election and Obama provided payback.

His trade policies since being in office have been designed to protect American union workers that cannot compete in the real international labor markets.

He also exempted a large number of unions from his stupid healthcare bill.

He is in the back pocket of the unions as are most Democrats.

Obama is worthless. Only an idiot would have voted for him. Only an idiot would try to defend his policies.

[Lois Lane]

Sorry I can't quote you. The text is full of tags.

There are indeed more unions than in Wisconsin. In Ohio and Florida too as I indicated. But how does that answer my point that it is not the federal govt. as you said which is involved in union issues but the states.

Using federal buying power to prop up unions? Do you mean buying within the USA production? Is that not the way to boost the economy and get people into work? Or do you not want people in work? and do you want the US to import far more and lay off American workers?

As far as I know business gave the Repubs billions as well. That is called politics and happens everywhere.

International competition is best avoided when another country owns your debt Flash. The fact that there are less international labour markets in faact holds down the wages of the American worker. Surey Obama wouldn't do that!

If workers are exempted from the health bill, how is this pandering to them? I would expect that this is putting them at a disadvantage.

Repubs are in the back pocket of business and the religious nutcases.

[BarbaraP]

He is unacceptable but not because he is half Black. He is unacceptable because he is a dirty little socialist that is ruining the country. He has does nothing since elected to office except raid the treasury and transfer the money to his stupid Democrat special interest groups like the unions and the environmental wackos.

Whether or not he was born in the US or not is water under the bridge because he is already president and we are not going to reverse that. It is too bad there was no real due diligence on the Constitutional requirements for the job but that time has passed.

He was unqualified to be President by his lack of experience and his far left leanings. He should have been found unacceptable by the American people because he attended a filthy race hating church for twenty years and his main “spiritual advisor” was an American hating, white hating, anti Semitic racial bigot.

From my own personal viewpoint I think he was unacceptable because he never served in the military. He decided to be a little chickensh!t instead of serving his country.

I don't think you're capable of recognizing the absolute ludicrousness of your assertions.

[UncleVanya]

It still appears that many 'Red Necks' amongst the Republicans still beleive that Barry Obama is the 'Anti-Christ'.... that he 'Eats Babies for Breakfast'... that he is a 'Secret Muslim'.... and that he is a 'Communist'. Oh dear. The real truth of the matter, is - "Is it becoz I is black?"

There are elements in the White Bible Belt South who still think African Americans should be 'Picking cotton in the fields, massah!"

Why do you think that General Colin Powell never ran for the Presidency all those years ago. He could see what sort of attitudes still ripple through US society. Now that the Spending plans have been approved, the US Econconmy is is still screwed, and all that fallout from 'Greedy Bankers' originally occured under the watch of George Bush, NOT Barry Obama.

The 2012 Presidential race will be dirty, and make the US look like a corrupt Third World country once the political 'Yee-haaw' merchants get their political waggons rolling next year.

[Lois Lane]

It still appears that many 'Red Necks' amongst the Republicans still beleive that Barry Obama is the 'Anti-Christ'.... that he 'Eats Babies for Breakfast'... that he is a 'Secret Muslim'.... and that he is a 'Communist'. Oh dear. The real truth of the matter, is - "Is it becoz I is black?"

There are elements in the White Bible Belt South who still think African Americans should be 'Picking cotton in the fields, massah!"

Why do you think that General Colin Powell never ran for the Presidency all those years ago. He could see what sort of attitudes still ripple through US society. Now that the Spending plans have been approved, the US Econconmy is is still screwed, and all that fallout from 'Greedy Bankers' originally occured under the watch of George Bush, NOT Barry Obama.

The 2012 Presidential race will be dirty, and make the US look like a corrupt Third World country once the political 'Yee-haaw' merchants get their political waggons rolling next year.

If I were Obama I would concede gracefully not because he could have been one of the best Presidents in American history if he had not been hasseled by point-scoring Repubes angry and amazed at having lost the last election but because he could earn a fortune on the lecture circuit, teach in the best unis in the world, act as an invaluable advisior for any number of influential people and retire on a fantastic pension whenever he wanted to.

Who needs all that other s**t?

[flash]

If I were Obama I would concede gracefully not because he could have been one of the best Presidents in American history if he had not been hasseled by point-scoring Repubes angry and amazed at having lost the last election but because he could earn a fortune on the lecture circuit, teach in the best unis in the world, act as an invaluable advisior for any number of influential people and retire on a fantastic pension whenever he wanted to.

Who needs all that other s**t?

Obongo has failed big time. We have high unemployment, low growth, high debt and this week the stock market crashed almost 1,000 points.

He is just not very good at his job. His idea to borrow a trillion dollars and then give the money to the filthy Democrat special interest groups like the unions and the environmental wackos did not produce very many jobs and we still have to pay back the money with interest.

Obongo is the most incompetent person to hold that job since Jimmy Carter and that is saying a lot.


The American people kicked many Democrats out of power in 2010. It will be even worse in 2012. I suspect Obongo will lose by a landslide no matter who is running against him.

My prediction:

Perry/Bachmann 61%

Obongo/Idiot 39%

[flash]

It still appears that many 'Red Necks' amongst the Republicans still beleive that Barry Obama is the 'Anti-Christ'....

I am a conservative American voter.

I don't think Obama is the Anti-Christ. I just think he is an incompetent fool.

His idea of raiding the American treasury to give money to his sleazy special interest groups was a failure.

His goal to impose socialism in the US hasn't work and our economy is tanking big time. The sooner we get rid of him the better.

[Lois Lane]

Obongo has failed big time. We have high unemployment, low growth, high debt and this week the stock market crashed almost 1,000 points.

He is just not very good at his job. His idea to borrow a trillion dollars and then give the money to the filthy Democrat special interest groups like the unions and the environmental wackos did not produce very many jobs and we still have to pay back the money with interest.

Obongo is the most incompetent person to hold that job since Jimmy Carter and that is saying a lot.


The American people kicked many Democrats out of power in 2010. It will be even worse in 2012. I suspect Obongo will lose by a landslide no matter who is running against him.

My prediction:

Perry/Bachmann 61%

Obongo/Idiot 39%

Welcome to the real world Flash.

And since the US caused the global crash I find it satisfying that thy too are feeling its pain.

[flash]

Welcome to the real world Flash.

And since the US caused the global crash I find it satisfying that thy too are feeling its pain.

I know you hate the US and wish ill on us. It is an Euro thing and you represent the filthy ass European hate mentality very well. We saved your ass so many times and all we get in return is hate from Eurotrash.

Why don't you grow up?

[Lois Lane]

I know you hate the US and wish ill on us. It is an Euro thing and you represent the filthy ass European hate mentality very well. We saved your ass so many times and all we get in return is hate from Eurotrash.

Why don't you grow up?

Why don't you write to the subject?

There is no reason in creation why the US should not suffer the same results of THEIR balls-up as the rest of us who were doing rather nicely until you sold us some dud loans.

You have exactly the same debt problems now as we do except that they are in triillions (mostly generated by presidents and congress well before Obama) while ours are still only in the billions.

As for the personal attack, stuff it. And welcome to the Real World.

[flash]

There is no reason in creation why the US should not suffer .

Do you know how pathetic you sound?

I wish suffering on no one. I wish all your economies in Euroland were doing well regardless of how we are doing.

You have the inbred hate and envy of the US and it does not serve you well. It makes you sound like trailer trash.

We are suffereing a lot over here, thank you very much. You hate wish is being fulfilled. However, it is of our own making and hopefully will be corrected in the election of 2012.

What you are not smart enough to understand is that when the US suffers so does the rest of the world, especially Euroland. If you had a brain you would wish us well because the better we do the better you do. Of course your hate and envy prevents you from thinking rationally.

[Lois Lane]

Do you know how pathetic you sound?

I wish suffering on no one. I wish all your economies in Euroland were doing well regardless of how we are doing.

You have the inbred hate and envy of the US and it does not serve you well. It makes you sound like trailer trash.

We are suffereing a lot over here, thank you very much. You wish is being fulfilled. However, it is of our own making and hopefully will be corrected in the election of 2012.

What you are not smart enough to understand is that when the US suffers so does the rest of the world, especially Euroland. If you had a brain you would wish us well becasue the better we do the better you do. Of course your hate and envy prevents you from thinking rationally.

Obama created 14 trillion dollars worth of debt????? In three years?????????

Not even I could do that on a shopping trip to the Champs Elysees.

You own beloved GWB had nothing to do with spending huge amounts of money demolishing Iraq?

What a short memory you have. I thought you were good at history.

[flash]

Obama created 14 trillion dollars worth of debt????? In three years?????????

Not even I could do that on a shopping trip to the Champs Elysees.

You own beloved GWB had nothing to do with spending huge amounts of money demolishing Iraq?

What a short memory you have. I thought you were good at history.

Your country has the same amount of debt in relative terms as do most of the Euro countries and if I remember correctly when American troops marched into Iraq the UK was right along side them. Is that the history you are looking for?

Let me tell you difference between the UK and the US.

I was an admin for a conservative forum for about five years. The site was maybe three times as large as this one.

We mostly were American but had a couple of posters from the UK and Australia and other places around the world.

Every once in a while we get someone that would do Euro bashing. Whenever that happen I and the other mods put an end to it real quick. Not only was it rude to our foreign posters but it just simply wasn't the right thing to do.

Here not only is US bashing condoned but most times applauded. It is a trashy thing to do. However, you don't have a clue what I am talking about, do you?

[Midas]

I thought you were good at history.

Only at selective bits of history Lois....

[Lois Lane]

Your country has the same amount of debt in relative terms as do most of the Euro countries and if I remember correctly when American troops marched into Iraq the UK was right along side them. Is that the history you are looking for?

Let me tell you difference between the UK and the US.

I was an admin for a conservative forum for about five years. The site was maybe three times as large as this one.

We mostly were American but had a couple of posters from the UK and Australia and other places around the world.

Every once in a while we get someone that would do Euro bashing. Whenever that happen I and the other mods put an end to it real quick. Not only was it rude to our foreign posters but it just simply wasn't the right thing to do.

Here not only is US bashing condoned but most times applauded. It is a trashy thing to do. However, you don't have a clue what I am talking about, do you?

Stick youir neck ouit Flash and expect it to get broken.

Maybe it is something to do with your attitude towards andname calling of Euros.

[flash]

Stick youir neck ouit Flash and expect it to get broken.

Maybe it is something to do with your attitude towards andname calling of Euros.

I have never on my own bashed any Euro without responding to an ignorant post about the US, like what you did here.

I didn't know the benign term "Euro" was so offensive to you. To me it is a short way to say European. Lighten up a little bit, it is not like I am calling you the N word or something.

I suspect the term "Yank" is a million times more offensive to me being a Southerner whose family fought against the Yankees than the term Euros could be offensive to you.

[Lois Lane]

I have never on my own bashed any Euro without responding to an ignorant post about the US, like what you did here.

Flash you have but I do not have the time right now to go back and look for them.

[flash]

Flash you have but I do not have the time right now to go back and look for them.

You can look all you want to but you are not going to find any instance of me doing Euro bashing unless it was responding to an attack on the US. It is not my nature to do that. The only thing you might find is me making fun of that girly game of soccer but that was just in fun. Oh, I forgot, I usually don't pass up the opportunity to make fun of the lack of dental hygene in the UK or personal hygene in Europe. How often do you take a shower living there in France? Once a week? Can you even buy a deodorant in a French store? How about mouth wash?

I don't even comment on Euro politics for the most part. Not only is not my business and I don't know enough to be intelligent on the subject.

You on the other hand, like a few others on this forum, never pass up an opportunity to bash the US. Sometimes I just write it off as low class trailer trash type ignorance but sometimes I respond back.

[Lois Lane]

You can look all you want to but you are not going to find any instance of me doing Euro bashing unless it was responding to an attack on the US. It is not my nature to do that. The only thing you might find is me making fun of that girly game of soccer but that was just in fun. Oh, I forgot, I usually don't pass up the opportunity to make fun of the lack of dental hygene in the UK or personal hygene in Europe. How often do you take a shower living there in France? Once a week? Can you even buy a deodorant in a French store? How about mouth wash?

I don't even comment on Euro politics for the most part. Not only is not my business and I don't know enough to be intelligent on the subject.

You on the other hand, like a few others on this forum, never pass up an opportunity to bash the US. Sometimes I just write it off as low class trailer trash type ignorance but sometimes I respond back.

Flash you are fooling no one. Least of all me.

I know the US enough to know about people like you and your insular and insulting attitudes to anyone who doesn't share your opionions.

You started a tirade about France a few weeks ago which I stopped by asking you when was the last time you were here and it turns out that it was sometime near the end of WW2.

Any joke it may have been gets a tad tiresome after months of the same.

You don't like people attacking the US? Well why not be the Big Man you say you are and be the first to shut up about Europe? Of at least confine your comments to what you DO know about Europe. That should keep your comments short.

[X Onasis]

Why is there a thread discussing this idiocy except to excite and inflame bigotry?

Only bigoted idiots like Flash are willing to spread this nonsense. I don't think he believes it himself, it just gives him an opportunity to spew his anti-Obama venom.

This thread is an offense to decency and intelligent discussion, worthy only to be discarded.

[Barry]

Why is there a thread discussing this idiocy except to excite and inflame bigotry?

Only bigoted idiots like Flash are willing to spread this nonsense. I don't think he believes it himself, it just gives him an opportunity to spew his anti-Obama venom.

This thread is an offense to decency and intelligent discussion, worthy only to be discarded.

Many thanks to that White House spokesperson for this official comment!

[flash]

Why is there a thread discussing this idiocy except to excite and inflame bigotry?

Only bigoted idiots like Flash are willing to spread this nonsense. I don't think he believes it himself, it just gives him an opportunity to spew his anti-Obama venom.

This thread is an offense to decency and intelligent discussion, worthy only to be discarded.

If you would have bothered to read the thread you would have discovered that:

1. I did not start this thread,

2. I specifically said "I don’t know if the SOB was born in the US or not. There is some circumstantial evidence that he wasn’t but nobody has really proven their case" so I don't think that I have been spreading the nonsense.

Stop being so narrow minded and bigoted yourself. Learn to pay attention better.